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Old 10-01-2011, 10:35 PM   #121
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Okay, so running 4 Verticals all game long isn't cheese now because it isn't a guaranteed catch everytime..?

And also, if that's the first time someone ran it against you, you are basing your experience of the play off an insanely small sample size. "Good job."
4 verticals all game isn't cheese. It's just dumb playcall and can easily be stopped. My small sample size is better than nothing at all. "Congrats"
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Old 10-01-2011, 10:38 PM   #122
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4 verticals all game isn't cheese. It's just dumb playcall and can easily be stopped. My small sample size is better than nothing at all. "Congrats"
Oh really? The computer can easily stop it, too? I didn't realize that. Seeing as how you can rack up hundreds of passing yards on the deep ball since there is minimal defense on it.

And, Whoa! Look out, one play. I'm pretty sure my sample size is greater then yours, buddy.
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Old 10-01-2011, 10:44 PM   #123
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Oh really? The computer can easily stop it, too? I didn't realize that. Seeing as how you can rack up hundreds of passing yards on the deep ball since there is minimal defense on it.

And, Whoa! Look out, one play. I'm pretty sure my sample size is greater then yours, buddy.
Yes the computer stops them a lot.
If the computer doesn't stop yours. You must be playing on freshman.
Therefore, making your sample invalid.
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Old 10-01-2011, 10:53 PM   #124
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Yes the computer stops them a lot.
If the computer doesn't stop yours. You must be playing on freshman.
Therefore, making your sample invalid.
Wow, what a cute little comeback.

Good job on not reading, and then taking it even farther from the original argument then before, champ.
This isn't even worth discussion with you anymore.

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I understand. I just was wondering because if you answered with Any top 10 team I would say that's why but I admit the "element of surprise" may be exaggerated in this this game since the players aren't programmed to react the way they'd be coached in real life. I remember in 10, the fake fg pass was so effective that I could run it after every score and it would always work whereas in real life this would never be the case.
Yeah, there's just parts of the game that can be taken advantage of too easily. I know what you mean, and that was my reasoning. I wouldn't be so against it if I didn't test it out with several teams against multiple defenses and still had this success.
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Old 10-01-2011, 11:10 PM   #125
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Yes the computer stops them a lot.
If the computer doesn't stop yours. You must be playing on freshman.
Therefore, making your sample invalid.
Um, for the record, I'm playing custom sliders Heisman (CPU Pass D jacked up to 100, USER QB Acc down to 5) and I can easily shred vastly superiour teams using nothing but 4 verts all day long.

That said, it's not an automatic completion every play and yes, sometimes the CPU does come up with picks on the play, but in general, no, the CPU cannot stop 4 verts most of the time.

It's way too easy, snap the ball, look to the outside and as soon as you see a receiver get by his corner, lob the long ball for the TD if there's no deep safety on the side (or if he's out of position or too slow) or hit the "deep bullet" for about 20-30 yards if there is a safety. I can get a completion out of that play about 30-40% of the time so since I got 4 downs to play with, it's basically an 80-90% probability play if called constantly. A 90% chance of success by just calling one play is, in my opinion, the very definition of "the CPU can't stop that play"
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