What is effect of Tuner--Good or bad ??

[CT Pitbull]

wow guys i just played my first game w/out the tuner and man what a difference for the better..for one the cpu didnt throw one hb screen....now that is amazing...the run blocking was indeed better and my hb broke a lot of tackles but not too many by any means i was using ilive4this sliders ...the pa pass was working very well ...the pass game was a bit more wide open but i jacked up the cpu pass coverage just a lil bit and it was perfect. anyways IMO this game play way smoother without that tuner whatever it is ...game felt more grounded or something i dont know how to describe it but i LOVE IT

[Jasong7777]

How do you delete the tuner? (Xbox)

[Jasong7777]

nevermind. got it

[boritter]

Quote: Originally Posted by BA2929

I've actually had more success with the PA without the tuner than with it. Just last night I faked an end around and the outside corner bit and got burned by the guy I faked too because of it for an easy TD.

Based on your experience I will continue to try PA w/o the patch. So far I have not had success (even on set-up plays) but I need a larger sample size.

[tHurley2010]

Deleted the tuner and here was the result of the first game I played:

Pittsburgh Panthers at Maryland Terrapins
Sep 1, 2012	1ST	2ND	3RD	4TH	OT	SCORE
Pittsburgh Panthers (1-0)	10	14	3	6	--	33
Maryland Terrapins (0-1)	7	7	0	14	--	28

Team Stats Comparison
	PITT	MD
Total Offense	380	395
Rushing Yards	55	169
Passing Yards	325	226
First Downs	13	19
Punt Return Yards	9	14
Kick Return Yards	129	164
Total Yards	518	573
Turnovers	0	3
3rd Down Converstion	6-12 (50%)	6-11 (54%)
4th Down Conversion	0-0	1-1 (100%)
2-Point Conversion	0-1	0-0
Red Zone Touchdowns/Field Goals	2-2-0 (100%)	2-2-0 (100%)
Penalties	2-15	2-15
Posession Time	14:08	21:52

Scoring Summary
FIRST QUARTER SCORING		PITT	MD
5:11	(PITT) K. Harper, 48 yard field goal	3	0
5:02	(PITT) L. Pitts, returned fumble 20 yards (PAT Good)	10	0
2:10	(MD) M. Furstenberg, 16 yard pass from C. Brown (PAT Good)	10	7
SECOND QUARTER SCORING		PITT	MD
5:29	(PITT) R. Graham, 3 yard run (PAT Good)	17	7
2:20	(PITT) D. Street, 11 yard pass from T. Sunseri (PAT Good)	24	7
0:20	(MD) L. Jacobs, 30 yard pass from C. Brown (PAT Good)	24	14
THIRD QUARTER SCORING		PITT	MD
5:01	(PITT) K. Harper, 50 yard field goal	27	14
FOURTH QUARTER SCORING		PITT	MD
4:39	(MD) K. Boykins, 10 yard pass from C. Brown (PAT Good)	27	21
1:58	(PITT) M. Shanahan, 49 yard pass from T. Sunseri (2pt failed)	33	21
0:41	(MD) D. Burns, 59 yard pass from C. Brown (PAT Good)	33	28

Pittsburgh Panthers PASSING C/A YDS TD INT C. Brown 15/28 226 4 1 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD J. Pickett 21 123 5.8 0 C. Brown 12 27 2.2 0 M. Leak 2 13 6.5 0 B. Ross 1 2 2.0 0 K. Boykins 1 4 4.0 0 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD K. Boykins 4 41 10.2 1 M. Leak 3 29 9.6 0 D. Burns 2 77 38.5 1 M. Furstenberg 2 25 12.5 1 D. Campbell 2 19 9.5 0 L. Jacobs 1 30 30.0 1 S. Diggs 1 5 5.0 0 KICKING FG XP PTS LONG M. Tart 0/1 4/4 4 -- PUNTING NO YDS AVG IN20 N. Renfro 2 87 43.5 0 KICK RETURN RET YDS AVG TD J. Pickett 7 164 23.4 0 PUNT RETURN RET YDS AVG TD J. Pickett 2 14 7.0 0

Maryland Terrapins PASSING C/A YDS TD INT T. Sunseri 20/32 325 2 0 RUSHING ATT YDS AVG TD R. Graham 14 56 4.0 1 T. Sunseri 3 -12 -4.0 0 I. Bennett 2 11 5.5 0 RECEIVING REC YDS AVG TD D. Street 6 127 21.1 1 M. Shanahan 4 77 19.2 1 H. Graham 4 32 8.0 0 R. Graham 3 8 2.6 0 C. Saddler 2 69 34.5 0 B. Carozzoni 1 12 12.0 0 KICKING FG XP PTS LONG K. Harper 2/5 3/3 8 50 PUNTING NO YDS AVG IN20 M. Yoklic 2 70 35.0 0 KICK RETURN RET YDS AVG TD R. Graham 3 74 24.6 0 K. Williams 2 55 27.5 0 PUNT RETURN RET YDS AVG TD R. Graham 1 9 9.0 0

Using authentic's slider set. Pass Coverage might need upping, but I need a larger sample size before making changes.

[Bcolt93]

played 3 games now without the tuner (Michigan, USC, Wake Forest) and this is what I've noticed playing AA without sliders
-running is easier, especially outside runs
-CPU speed option is broken/useless
-CPU secondary still awful
-user secondary too good
-CPU can't run the ball

In the 3 games I've played, the most points I've allowed is 10 (USC) and the most rushing yards I've given up was 68 to Michigan. i find the tuner has made the game significantly harder than without. With it i was getting close games against good teams, was almost upset and had lots of nail bitters. had lots of turnovers, but i dealt with it. Now without it i had 3 straight blow outs, 1 in the NC and the other on the road against #3. i may download it again because i wasn't playing all that well, the CPU was just god awful on offence between the turnovers and complete inability to run the ball in any situation, especially by the goal line

[Lionsfan7887]

This game is way better without the tuner.

[boritter]

Those of you who are having PA pass success w/o the tuner, what difficulty are you on?

After 8 games w/o the tuner, I still believe that on Heisman PA is useless. Neither the safetys nor the LBs pay attention to RB. On AA the PA still works.

I've also noticed that there is more ice skating w/o the tuner. Sometimes DBs do 180s multiple times in one play so they basically switch from zone-to-man-to-zone-to-man in the same play--all w/o ever slowing down! Has anyone else noticed this?