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Old 12-19-2003, 03:10 PM   #1
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Frustrating NCAA Gameplay Quirks

I played NCAA awhile when it 1st came out but then it got on my nerves pretty quickly much to my surprise. I recently picked it up again because I read people raving about it on this forum. I think most people are blinded by their love for the college game and the fluff it contains and are overlooking some major flaws. The running game is flat out atrocious both with human and AI controlled teams. Unless you are running the option or have a back rated over 90 in speed, pitch outs are a waste of a down. How this can be overlooked by everyone is beyond me. Run blocking, juke moves (number of animations in general involving the ground game are way too limited), endurance of backs are all done very poorly IMHO. When have you ever seen a quality back's effectiveness decrease as much as it does with just a couple of carries? Come on now! This needs addressed. Another glaring problem is YAC can be virtually non-existant at higher levels even with Roy Williams. Couple of computer cheats are in place to make sure this is the case. Anybody that's ever played this game at length has seen them. The first cheat involves a 99 rated Roy Williams coming across the middle wide open with lots of open field to get YAC but low and behold he drops a perfectly thrown ball. I turned the slider up and it still happens at an alarming rate. Come on! How can a problem get anymore glaring than this and still make it into the final product? This is supposed to depict college football where bigtime players explode for exciting gains in the open field. Why on earth would you put a cheat in the game to limit this stuff? Cheat 2 involves quarterback accuracy or the untimely lack there of by even the highest rated QB's when a receiver is wide open and they either throw the ball too high or behind the guy which gives the defence time to recover and again prevents the big and exciting play. Very poor. The touted ability to lead receivers in this years game isn't implemented as advertised in my opinion. What's weird is I think that the Madden 2004 engine is actually better suited for the college game in a lot of ways because of the wide open big play style that it portrays. I hope NCAA upgrades so the aforementioned can be toned down and impact players have gamebreaking ability like they should in the college game. With that being said I really like the DB play in this game as well as the presentation. These problems cause me to do the same things over and over and really hurt the variety factor on a game to game basis. It really starts to feel like the same old thing over and over again even with the different teams.
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I will put absolutley no stock into this post at all. You are the only person I have ever heard complain about this game, maybe you just are not good at it and it is frustrating you. It will be okay, just keep practicing.
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well i might be able to help you out
as far as throwing behind the receivers and such it only does this then you are holding the joystick back while you are throwing it
and about the dropped balls you cant throw bullets very much, you have to put some loft on your passes(but i also think that th wr's drop way to many balls, any non lofted ball usually gets dropped)
also i beleive you saying that sweeps are a wasted down but they are not if you practice, most people then they run this play go completely east and west when you should go north and south but it still isnt that great of a play

and y are yall closin this guy out i think he is right on some of these things and yes i think this is the best sports game ever but it still has some things it needs to work out
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I played NCAA awhile when it 1st came out but then it got on my nerves pretty quickly much to my surprise. I recently picked it up again because I read people raving about it on this forum. I think most people are blinded by their love for the college game and the fluff it contains and are overlooking some major flaws. The running game is flat out atrocious both with human and AI controlled teams. Unless you are running the option or have a back rated over 90 in speed, pitch outs are a waste of a down. How this can be overlooked by everyone is beyond me. Run blocking, juke moves (number of animations in general involving the ground game are way too limited), endurance of backs are all done very poorly IMHO. When have you ever seen a quality back's effectiveness decrease as much as it does with just a couple of carries? Come on now! This needs addressed. Another glaring problem is YAC can be virtually non-existant at higher levels even with Roy Williams. Couple of computer cheats are in place to make sure this is the case. Anybody that's ever played this game at length has seen them. The first cheat involves a 99 rated Roy Williams coming across the middle wide open with lots of open field to get YAC but low and behold he drops a perfectly thrown ball. I turned the slider up and it still happens at an alarming rate. Come on! How can a problem get anymore glaring than this and still make it into the final product? This is supposed to depict college football where bigtime players explode for exciting gains in the open field. Why on earth would you put a cheat in the game to limit this stuff? Cheat 2 involves quarterback accuracy or the untimely lack there of by even the highest rated QB's when a receiver is wide open and they either throw the ball too high or behind the guy which gives the defence time to recover and again prevents the big and exciting play. Very poor. The touted ability to lead receivers in this years game isn't implemented as advertised in my opinion. What's weird is I think that the Madden 2004 engine is actually better suited for the college game in a lot of ways because of the wide open big play style that it portrays. I hope NCAA upgrades so the aforementioned can be toned down and impact players have gamebreaking ability like they should in the college game. With that being said I really like the DB play in this game as well as the presentation. These problems cause me to do the same things over and over and really hurt the variety factor on a game to game basis. It really starts to feel like the same old thing over and over again even with the different teams.




This stuff won't get addressed trust me. When madden was on SNES to now always felt the same you run into a pile ping pong alittle and fall down.
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As far as the pitches go... you have to be football minded
to have these kind of plays work at all. You can't just
keep running the pitches and expect them to work. There are
a lot of plays that will not work 50% of the time. They need to be setup properly.

BTW...be nice to people that like these games. Too much
hating going on around here.
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