Too Easy to Get Top Recruits w/ Small Teams

[BleedGreen710]

Quote: Originally Posted by moneal2001

each star should add 1000 recruiting points each. This would allow bigger schools to recruit more players at a time.

Uhhh yeah and give small schools absolutely NO CHANCE in recruiting battles. 6000 points for a 6 star prestige? That's insane. That would just make the rich richer and the poor poorer.

[BleedGreen710]

I've made a thread that could help some people better understand this issue..

http://www.operationsports.com/forum...problem-3.html

[Strategizer]

Quote: Originally Posted by BleedGreen710

Uhhh yeah and give small schools absolutely NO CHANCE in recruiting battles. 6000 points for a 6 star prestige? That's insane. That would just make the rich richer and the poor poorer.

The number should be smaller, but I think he was talking per week, not per player. You could still have the player cap of 500 plus the coach skill. The smaller schools would stand the same chance in a battle as they do now.

[BleedGreen710]

Quote: Originally Posted by Strategizer

The number should be smaller, but I think he was talking per week, not per player. You could still have the player cap of 500 plus the coach skill. The smaller schools would stand the same chance in a battle as they do now.

Oh I see.. yea.. per week would make sense..

[moneal2001]

Quote: Originally Posted by BleedGreen710

Uhhh yeah and give small schools absolutely NO CHANCE in recruiting battles. 6000 points for a 6 star prestige? That's insane. That would just make the rich richer and the poor poorer.

it would only be 5000 points for a 6 star team. each star above 1 gives 1000 points so a 2 star would get 1000 more than a 1 star, a 3 star would get 2000 more, a 4 star would get 3000 more, a 5 star would get 4000 more, and a 6 star would get 5000 more. It would be more realistic, and it would not make it harder in recruiting battles. It would only increase the amount of recruiting battles. The teams would still only be able to be able to put 500-700 points into each recruit.

As a small school you have to really go after the guys you can get. smaller schools shouldnt really be after many 4 star guys. Even teams like Boise State only get a few 4 stars and they go after gem 3 star guys.

[jmaj315]

Quote: Originally Posted by moneal2001

I don't know if its really EA's fault on this one. I did look into the Fact that the cpu uses full points on their top 10-13 players on their board. That causes the Lower Guys to not receive any points. The CPU does this to counter the most likely strategy of players putting full points into all their recruits. I think they need to figure out a way to give bonus recruiting points to each school based on its prestige rating. a 1 star school should receive 0 bonus points for prestige. each star should add 1000 recruiting points each. This would allow bigger schools to recruit more players at a time.

Quote: Originally Posted by moneal2001

it would only be 5000 points for a 6 star team. each star above 1 gives 1000 points so a 2 star would get 1000 more than a 1 star, a 3 star would get 2000 more, a 4 star would get 3000 more, a 5 star would get 4000 more, and a 6 star would get 5000 more. It would be more realistic, and it would not make it harder in recruiting battles. It would only increase the amount of recruiting battles. The teams would still only be able to be able to put 500-700 points into each recruit. As a small school you have to really go after the guys you can get. smaller schools shouldnt really be after many 4 star guys. Even teams like Boise State only get a few 4 stars and they go after gem 3 star guys.

This would be perfect! because it's not extremely hard to go from a 1 star prestige to a 3 star prestige... there's 2000 bonus recruiting points... i really like that idea!

[Cubs017]

Quote: Originally Posted by BleedGreen710

Uhhh yeah and give small schools absolutely NO CHANCE in recruiting battles. 6000 points for a 6 star prestige? That's insane. That would just make the rich richer and the poor poorer.

Which is, quite frankly, how it is most of the time. If you're a small school that plays in the MAC or MWC or anything like that, you're not getting 4* and 5* players. You might pick one up every couple of years if you're lucky, but the vast majority of those mid-major teams never even sniff a 4* recruit. They pull in mostly 2* players, with a handful of 3* guys thrown in. If you look at the average rating of the recruits of those teams (in real life), they're almost all between 2.0 and 3.0. Recruiting is way too easy in this game - the mid majors almost all end up below a 3.0 average in real life, but in this game it's like you have to settle for those 3* players. Getting all 3* guys is actually better than reality.

In real life, if there's a player deciding between a school like my Alma Mater (Central Michigan) and a team like Michigan State or Michigan, they take the bigger school nearly every single time, especially if they're a 3* or higher player. There is no "recruiting battle." The big guys pretty much always win. It sucks, but it's true.

[Timeetyo]

Quote: Originally Posted by Cubs017

Which is, quite frankly, how it is most of the time. If you're a small school that plays in the MAC or MWC or anything like that, you're not getting 4* and 5* players. You might pick one up every couple of years if you're lucky, but the vast majority of those mid-major teams never even sniff a 4* recruit. They pull in mostly 2* players, with a handful of 3* guys thrown in. If you look at the average rating of the recruits of those teams (in real life), they're almost all between 2.0 and 3.0. Recruiting is way too easy in this game - the mid majors almost all end up below a 3.0 average in real life, but in this game it's like you have to settle for those 3* players. Getting all 3* guys is actually better than reality. In real life, if there's a player deciding between a school like my Alma Mater (Central Michigan) and a team like Michigan State or Michigan, they take the bigger school nearly every single time, especially if they're a 3* or higher player. There is no "recruiting battle." The big guys pretty much always win. It sucks, but it's true.

Yep - there are a few outliers - forgive the formatting but here is 2012 rivals recruiting classes (5/4/3 star recruits signed):

Rank School 5-starCommits 4-starCommits 3-starCommits
#1 Alabama 3 14 9
#2 Texas 2 15 10
#3 Florida 3 11 8
#4 Ohio State 2 14 9
#5 Stanford 3 10 9
#6 Florida State 3 10 5
#7 Michigan 2 10 13
#8 USC 3 10 2
#9 Miami (FL) 2 8 23
#10 Auburn 0 13 8
#11 Oklahoma 1 11 13
#12 Georgia 2 6 10
#13 UCLA 1 8 14
#14 Clemson 0 9 11
#15 Texas A&M 1 6 12
#16 Oregon 0 10 9
#17 Tennessee 0 10 9
#18 LSU 0 9 12
#19 South Carolina 0 8 15
#20 Notre Dame 1 8 7
#21 Washington 1 5 14
#22 Virginia Tech 0 7 19
#23 California 0 7 10
#24 Rutgers 1 4 13
#25 Nebraska 0 6 11
#26 Texas Tech 0 3 21
#27 Virginia 0 4 16
#28 Utah 0 5 19
#29 Vanderbilt 0 3 19
#30 Mississippi State 0 4 21
#31 Missouri 1 1 16
#32 Oklahoma State 0 3 17
#33 Purdue 0 2 22
#34 Arkansas 0 2 21
#35 Maryland 1 2 14
#36 Colorado 0 2 20
#37 TCU 0 3 17
#38 Arizona State 0 3 15
#39 Oregon State 0 2 16
#40 Mississippi 0 2 14
#41 Michigan State 0 3 14
#42 Louisville 0 3 16
#43 Iowa 0 4 15
#44 North Carolina 0 3 18
#45 Baylor 0 3 18
#46 Arizona 0 2 17
#47 Pittsburgh 0 4 10
#48 West Virginia 0 1 24
#49 South Florida 0 2 16
#50 Cincinnati 0 0 25
#51 Penn State 0 2 11
#52 Duke 0 1 10
#53 North Carolina State 0 0 17
#54 Boise State 0 0 13
#55 Washington State 0 2 15
#56 Georgia Tech 0 2 13
#56 Wisconsin 0 3 7
#58 Kansas State 0 1 14
#59 Houston 0 1 16
#60 Northwestern 0 2 12
#61 Brigham Young 0 2 9
#62 Kentucky 0 1 21
#63 Boston College 0 2 8
#64 Illinois 0 0 14
#65 Syracuse 0 0 13
#66 Indiana 0 0 18
#67 Marshall 0 1 10
#68 Arkansas State 0 0 17
#69 Wake Forest 0 0 16
#70 Southern Miss 0 1 12
#71 Memphis 0 0 11
#72 Minnesota 0 0 19
#73 East Carolina 0 0 11
#74 Kansas 0 0 15
#75 Western Kentucky 0 0 7
#76 Temple 0 0 5
#77 Toledo 0 0 9
#77 Connecticut 0 0 9
#79 Ohio 0 0 8
#80 Tulane 0 1 6
#81 Miami (OH) 0 0 6
#82 Nevada 0 0 7
#83 New Mexico 0 0 5
#84 FIU 0 0 19
#85 Hawaii 0 0 6
#86 Navy 0 0 4
#87 Iowa State 0 0 16
#88 Tulsa 0 0 14
#89 Southern Methodist 0 0 13
#90 UCF 0 0 13
#91 Texas State 0 0 11
#91 Rice 0 0 11
#93 Florida Atlantic 0 0 10
#94 Northern Illinois 0 0 8
#95 Louisiana-Lafayette 0 0 7
#96 Louisiana Tech 0 0 8
#97 San Diego State 0 0 6
#98 New Mexico State 0 0 7
#99 San Jose State 0 0 5
#99 Eastern Michigan 0 0 5
#99 North Texas 0 0 5
#99 Troy 0 0 5
#99 Kent State 0 0 5
#99 Central Michigan 0 0 5
#99 UTEP 0 0 5
#106 Bowling Green 0 0 5
#107 Wyoming 0 0 4
#107 Air Force 0 0 4
#107 Western Michigan 0 0 4
#110 UNLV 0 0 5
#111 Louisiana-Monroe 0 0 3
#111 UAB 0 0 3
#111 Middle Tennessee 0 0 3
#114 Idaho 0 0 3
#115 Massachusetts 0 0 1
#115 Ball State 0 0 1
#115 Utah State 0 0 4
#118 Akron 0 0 0
#119 Buffalo 0 0 1
#120 Colorado State 0 0 3
#121 Fresno State 0 0 4
#122 Army 0 0 1