This Madden 64 article could be a hint

[simbayless]

I could be wrong but this old Madden 64 article could be a hint on what 2k is doing with their football game

https://www.ign.com/articles/1997/10/25/madden-64

Football fanatics, however, will be very disappointed to know that Madden 64 doesn't feature the full NFL license, so real team names, team colors and team stadiums are not present. This means that you could be stuck playing the Chicago Bulldozers instead of the mighty Bears -- and they might be purple. Acclaim grabbed all the NFL licensing rights for its NFL QB Club '98 early and EA was left playing catch up. However, EA did manage to get ahold of the NFLPA (NFL Players Associaion) so real player names are present in the game.

[PVarck31]

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2K has the NFL license. Why would they not use it?

They aren't making a non-licensed sim game. They didn't wait 17 years to get the NFL license back to not use it. Even if that means the game can't be sim.

[simbayless]

Re: This Madden 64 article could be a hint

2k didn't sign the NFL and NFLPA License at the same time they might have a few different games under there belt
NFL License +NFLPA players = Arcade playgrounds style type of games

NFLPA License by itself= Madden 64,All pro style of games.

At the end of the day we all don't know yet but
don't knock me if this could be a reality


Non simulation NFL games is the only fact so far

[bigbob]

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The game is going to have real teams. I get people trying not to get their hopes up, but it is ridiculous at this point to think it will be generic teams with 2k dishing out money for the rights to use real teams. You do not waste money and resources on a generic game when you have the thing that is going to make the game sell at your disposal.

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[simbayless]

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The game is going to have real teams. I get people trying not to get their hopes up, but it is ridiculous at this point to think it will be generic teams with 2k dishing out money for the rights to use real teams. You do not waste money and resources on a generic game when you have the thing that is going to make the game sell at your disposal.

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Yes real NFL teams that plays like NFL street, playgrounds/battlegrounds arcade football


Yes fake teams with real NFL players that plays real football Aka All pro/madden-64

Y'all get what I'm saying now in that article the NFL/NFLPA License was split up
That's all I'm saying folks get hyped!

[Dagio]

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I won't get my hopes up, but it is a remote possibility. To this day I haven't seen confirmation that the NFLPA deal is for non-sim games only (it could be, correct me if I'm wrong), and articles like these keep using the phrase "multiple titles".

https://www.polygon.com/2020/7/30/21346683/nfl-2k-sports-football-video-games-deal-nflpa

2K has not provided any other details about the games in question, saying only that it has multiple titles “in early stages of development” and that they are slated to be released starting in 2021.

We’re thrilled to be working with the NFLPA and OneTeam to bring the biggest and best stars in football to the games we’re working on.

Now by multiple titles, this could just mean yearly releases of the same game, but the wording seems to imply something else. If multiple separate titles are in development, perhaps one game is arcade-style with NFL teams and players, while the other is simulation-style with NFL players and generic teams. Then again, these could all be non-sim titles, which unfortunately seems the most likely scenario.

[kehlis]

Re: This Madden 64 article could be a hint

I won't get my hopes up, but it is a remote possibility. To this day I haven't seen confirmation that the NFLPA deal is for non-sim games only (it could be, correct me if I'm wrong), and articles like these keep using the phrase "multiple titles".

https://www.polygon.com/2020/7/30/21346683/nfl-2k-sports-football-video-games-deal-nflpa

Now by multiple titles, this could just mean yearly releases of the same game, but the wording seems to imply something else. If multiple separate titles are in development, perhaps one game is arcade-style with NFL teams and players, while the other is simulation-style with NFL players and generic teams. Then again, these could all be non-sim titles, which unfortunately seems the most likely scenario.

Part of that same announcement (notice the use of plural wording):

2K's NFL games will be non-simulation football game experiences, and are currently in early stages of development. Specific game titles, developers and release dates will be announced at a later date.

The hype is fun but not realistic, some folks are getting their hopes up for something that isn't happening.

[simbayless]

Re: This Madden 64 article could be a hint

I won't get my hopes up, but it is a remote possibility. To this day I haven't seen confirmation that the NFLPA deal is for non-sim games only (it could be, correct me if I'm wrong), and articles like these keep using the phrase "multiple titles".

https://www.polygon.com/2020/7/30/21346683/nfl-2k-sports-football-video-games-deal-nflpa

Now by multiple titles, this could just mean yearly releases of the same game, but the wording seems to imply something else. If multiple separate titles are in development, perhaps one game is arcade-style with NFL teams and players, while the other is simulation-style with NFL players and generic teams. Then again, these could all be non-sim titles, which unfortunately seems the most likely scenario.

This^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ he gets it when's the last time you hear a sports game say mutiple games if anything they say future titles

So if this indeed true and visual concept is making it boy ohh boy Madden is in deep water by bad programming history alone vs a new 2k built from the ground up engine yikes

[canes21]

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So 2k is going to make 2 games that will compete against themselves and Madden thus likely resulting in less money for themselves at the end of the day?

C'mon guys.

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[PVarck31]

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This^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ he gets it when's the last time you hear a sports game say mutiple games if anything they say future titles

So if this indeed true and visual concept is making it boy ohh boy Madden is in deep water by bad programming history alone vs a new 2k built from the ground up engine yikes

I remember when Madden re-upped their NFL agreement like 5 years or so ago, they also said they had multiple NFL titles in development. And everyone thought we were getting another Head Coach. All we got was Madden.

And Madden isn't in or will be in deep water. It will continue to sell millions, no matter how you feel about the programming. Even if 2K did an unlicensed sim game with just real players, it wouldn't sell. We've been over this a million times. If it would, it would have been done already after APF. Companies know what they are doing when it comes to knowing if a game will sell. It's not worth the risk for them. They know a non-sim game with the NFL license will sell because it has the NFL license. Without it, they would never risk it.

And now with college football coming back, that is even more sales EA would take away from any non-licensed 2K sim game.

[simbayless]

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APL didn't sell well because of lack of License it was lack of franchise mode was the reason
The world wasn't ready but now they on their knees praying for another football option and I'm not talking about Doug flutie look at the big hype years ago with the Joe Montana football situation Damon grow had so many followers looking at him like he Phill Spencer
I'm just sayin

[PVarck31]

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APL didn't sell well because of lack of License it was lack of franchise mode was the reason
The world wasn't ready but now they on their knees praying for another football option and I'm not talking about Doug flutie look at the big hype years ago with the Joe Montana football situation Damon grow had so many followers looking at him like he Phill Spencer
I'm just sayin

Obviously you aren't gonna change your mind about this so we will have to agree to disagree and move on.

[simbayless]

Re: This Madden 64 article could be a hint

Hey mod no need to be sensitive we just have a healthy fun debate no matter who is right or wrong my G

[PVarck31]

Re: This Madden 64 article could be a hint

Hey mod no need to be sensitive we just have a healthy fun debate no matter who is right or wrong my G

Not sensitive, just wanna be done with it.

[jrp1918]

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I can guarantee all we're getting is something like NFL Playgrounds.

These kinds of posts are beyond ridiculous and setting up for whatever NFL game 2k puts out to end up a massive letdown/failure.

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