Playbook knowledge needed for Supersim?

[BrnwsBucksFanNC]

I guess this may have been answered at some point, but I cannot find it. Does it matter if the players know the plays in Supersim? I understand all about it if you actually play the games, but I just don't have the time right now. However, if the playbook knowledge doesn't matter in Supersim then I wont play the pre-season games either.

I started a new Browns game with some different playbooks than I have used in the past so it is a learning experience for me as well in a way.

I know this board doesn't get a lot of attention now, but any input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

[Mike3207]

Re: Playbook knowledge needed for Supersim?

I guess this may have been answered at some point, but I cannot find it. Does it matter if the players know the plays in Supersim? I understand all about it if you actually play the games, but I just don't have the time right now. However, if the playbook knowledge doesn't matter in Supersim then I wont play the pre-season games either.

I started a new Browns game with some different playbooks than I have used in the past so it is a learning experience for me as well in a way.

I know this board doesn't get a lot of attention now, but any input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

Playbook knowledge matters whether you play, sim, or supersim. I often supersim in preseason to get the plays learned, then I play all the rest of the games. I get what you say about time though-some of the games I play stretch out to two hours.

[algoody421]

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Yeah, Play knowledge will definitely effect the production of each play, no matter if its sim super simmed or played. I obviously advise you to play every down and call every play, but thats not feasible for everyone. Some people only play this game for an hour or two here or there. When I play, Im playing for at least 4 hours(2 full games) but thats what I enjoy about it.

Can you still win/learn plays while simming/supersimming? Of course. The only real issue is if you dont pick the plays yourself, the oc and dc will call the same 10-20 plays all game, every game. That leads to plays having usage scores over 5% and ends up killing normally effective plays. At that point(really even 3% or higher usages score), thats a type of play EVERY TEAM is expecting you to use on that down and distance when they verse you.

[BrnwsBucksFanNC]

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Thanks for the feedback guys, and so soon as well!

I guess I will supersim the games then. I played the 1st pre-season game and it was a disaster! But the crappy coaches don't help.

One other question...since my objective is to just get through this first season so I can get rid of the coaching staff, is there any real advantage to doing anything but simming the games for this first season?

Btw I have had to put 3 guys on IR already and it is just the 2nd week of pre-season.

[algoody421]

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The only advantage to simming through the first season is to get to the offseason/first draft faster. The disadvantages out weigh it in my opinion. Adding on to what I said earlier, When you sim and supersim, you make less points for your WHOLE STAFF. You could win a game 40-20 supersimmed or simmed and you wouldnt even make half what you would if you played that same game and got the same stats.

The game was made to be played, but if you see this as there still being 15 years to develop your coach, sim the first season. If you see it as I want to be the best coach I can make(my personal opinion), then you need to play every game to get the most points for development.

[BrnwsBucksFanNC]

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I agree with you and I really wish I had the time to play every game. Unfortunately since a game can take up to 2 hours to play, I just don't have that amount of time. If I waited until I did, I would play once every 2 or 3 weeks. So I am trying to figure out how to keep the game a little honest and give me the enjoyment I want out of it.

So I guess in a perfect world I would have the time to put into the game that I would like to, but I guess until I get to live that perfect life, I am just trying to figure out how to make it fit into the one I have to live.

[Mike3207]

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The only obvious advantage supersim has over sim-your coaches will get more points. Your staff isn't as good-you'd mostly be getting points for your HC. I think you'd be looking at about 5000-15000 points more if you supersim. I think it might be best to supersim.

[algoody421]

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I know from simming 32 seasons doing that duntov excel file, the better your staff, the more points you'll get simming. For instance, over an entire season, Hal o'famer got almost 20,000 points, just simming. Meanwhile, My created coach at 5 performance, 2 in strategy or playcall(not both), and charisma/charm, would barely net 10-15k based on the coaching staff around them. Teams that went 6-10 made like 10k, teams that went 10-6 made around 15k 13+ wins and you're around 20000. Coordinators made around 10k max, and same with the position coaches unless that position is stacked and produces better.

Those numbers are ONLY IF YOU NEVER DEVELOP YOUR STAFF DURING THE SEASON. If you were to develop them after every couple of games, you might make more because your team would play better. Ive never charted how much I make playing the games over a full season, might be something someone should do....

I do know Ive made more than 20000 in a season though, especially if I play the games and win 12 of them or more...

[BrnwsBucksFanNC]

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Thanks a lot for all of the advice and suggestions. I think that because of the horrible coaches and time constraints, I am going to just sim the games during this first season. I did supersim the first game and actually won. But had 4 players go out with injures and now have 4 on IR. The trainer for the Browns is a 12 and I cant even practice more than 2 days a week now. I understand injuries happen, but this gets too frustrating for me to continue even playing. I know I am costing my coaches points, but I only plan on keeping 2 of them anyway. Once I have a little more time I should be able to actually play the games.

Algoody421, saw in another thread you are a disabled vet. Thank you for your service sir. I actually am one as well, but mine is only partial and I am a high school teacher. Enjoy your time sir, you earned it!

[algoody421]

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Thanks, Id rather be working but It is what it is. Dont get it twisted though, Im not old(28) or a hero, **** just happened. And though I swear like a sailor, I hate the sea. And even still, though I was an airman, Im afraid of heights. Its all rather confusing...

Im just happy I live in this generation where I can play a football game like this instead of like electric football, or some hobby even worse, like stamp collecting...(sorry stamp collectors around the world).

[ramz43]

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About that during the preseason i usually pick the unlearned plays until they are learned. Plus i also dont let the computer pick the plays because they pick the same play over and over again. It takes 10 to 15 minutes if you supersim and pick the plays yourself your really not caring about the record in preseason. My goal in preseason is to learn as many plays as possible before the season starts. What i do with every team i play i supersim the preseason and season just to make sure the the 2nd year my plays are learned or mastered then i start playing the whole game.

[BrnwsBucksFanNC]

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Even though I have played this game off and on since it came out, I have never supersimmed until now so please forgive my ignorance...but how do you know which plays are learned or mastered in supersim?

I made it through the first season just simming games. I fired all of the coaches except 2 and was able to get some good upgrades. I had a great draft as well. One of these days I will remember to turn the sound on so I can see what draft path I am going to get. I think the English draft has a thing for me... So this will be easier than I though to rebuild.

Played the first pre-season game and the running game is finally coming together!

[Mike3207]

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Even though I have played this game off and on since it came out, I have never supersimmed until now so please forgive my ignorance...but how do you know which plays are learned or mastered in supersim?

I just check the Mastered/Learned/Unlearned play icon off to the side.

[BrnwsBucksFanNC]

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I just check the Mastered/Learned/Unlearned play icon off to the side.

Well I feel like a dumba** with that one. I will try look for it tonite.

Thanks