Yep. Don't know what it was for though. I thought I noticed more/easier board pinning and smoother skating, but probably just in my head. A bit too early for a gameplay patch, imo. Most likely an online fix or something.
Quite honestly using the development change is sort of a crutch excuse to begin with.
Quite honestly, you don't know what happened.
Kush imploded, VC didn't scrap them. VC had no choice but to take over development for NHL2k9, and time was short. They had to allocate a team for that and the first thing they noticed was that Kush was not using VC's code libraries. 2k8 was a pretty good game, but was coded poorly. The game's code was not maintainable by the VC team. The best foot forward was to start rewriting the game, instead of building on a messy foundation.
I was told NHL uses the NBA engine now. It'll only get better from here on.
please go back to playing your nhl 10, i'm tired of hearing your b.s. you spit some raw b.s. man. you don't know, stop making assumptions, i program and i can tell you that its obvious they aren't using previous code, its called writing a new engine, after a while, you max out an engine and then you have to start again with a new one so please, its obvious your a fanboy, not that its a bad thing but take your FANBOYISM to the other forum.
its obvious your a fanboy, not that its a bad thing but take your FANBOYISM to the other forum.
He's not a fanboy, just a bitter former 2K guy who made the switch to EA. I do agree though, the same arguments over and over are getting tiresome. Now that the patch is out, hopefully it makes most of the 360 owners happy.
No I realize that, The NBA "engine" is the same engine at its core that the whole line has been since they were Sega Sports titles. If you've played enough of the 2k series over the years, be it NFL, NHL, NBA whatever, there's this certain "feel or vibe" thats pretty much been there since the dreamcast days along with reoccuring AI behavors and persistant issues that have also been there since the dreamcast days. Sure there's been a graphical renderer update or two along the way but if you honestly believe NHL2k9 and 2k10 both don't reuse code from previous iterations of the series be it 2k8 or prior then I have a bridge to sell you real cheap.
Considering the NHL2k series has changed development teams 3 times in the last 7 years doesn't help matters much either.
I said a lot of code was rewritten because Kush's code could not be maintained. I never said they wrote a new engine. Nearly 3 months were spent rewriting code due to Kush not following certain protocol.
That feel/vibe you're describing is always going to be there and it's why some prefer one game over the other.
EA's game felt the same for years and years until 09, and even then there's still a lot of the same old issues, like catch-up-goals to make up for poor AI.
And btw, C.Hoops was pulled because they broke off talks with the CLC. It had nothing to do with sales. There was a statement about this. Stop making things up.
No I realize that, The NBA "engine" is the same engine at its core that the whole line has been since they were Sega Sports titles. If you've played enough of the 2k series over the years, be it NFL, NHL, NBA whatever, there's this certain "feel or vibe" thats pretty much been there since the dreamcast days along with reoccuring AI behavors and persistant issues that have also been there since the dreamcast days. Sure there's been a graphical renderer update or two along the way but if you honestly believe NHL2k9 and 2k10 both don't reuse code from previous iterations of the series be it 2k8 or prior then I have a bridge to sell you real cheap.
Considering the NHL2k series has changed development teams 3 times in the last 7 years doesn't help matters much either.
I took a break from this forum for a while and on occasion I would pop in to see if anything has changed but I see it's still pretty much the same. Realm trying to keep up the same ridiculous, petty, mindless argument over and over again, killing threads for a game he admits to not playing anymore. Wasn't there new rules put out recently about having agenda's? You are the one and only reason why the 2k forum continues to be a mess and it's actually quite sad. I don't care if your a bitter former 2k fan, the fact that you can't get over something you don't like and constantly argue back and forth because you think the other game is better really makes this an awful forum to visit. There aren't that many people visiting this forum as it is, but to come here months after release and see that the few posts that are here mainly consist of your infantile arguing is really disappointing. You have an agenda like no other and it's really pathetic. When will you grow up and move on.
you don't know, stop making assumptions, i program and i can tell you that its obvious they aren't using previous code, its called writing a new engine, after a while, you max out an engine and then you have to start again with a new one
Oh really? What do you program/write code for?
"And by the way, you know, when you're telling these little stories? Here's a good idea - have a POINT. It makes it SO much more interesting for the listener!"
After giving NHL 2010 up, I was so looking forward to this game post patch.... Then I started reading this thread and WOW 2k sure is pissin me off... They can blame Sony all they want but I call BS on that.... I think they developed with 360 in mind and it would be too much work for them... Maybe not but as a long time 2k supporter even since 2ksports became just that... I will not buy another game from them...I am serious about this.. I was planning on buying 2k basketball after downloading and playing the demo but Not now...That piss poor company can Piss off.. If they can't get us a patch as the 360 users, then make the game playable at least.... Videogames are going downhill and fast....
After giving NHL 2010 up, I was so looking forward to this game post patch.... Then I started reading this thread and WOW 2k sure is pissin me off... They can blame Sony all they want but I call BS on that.... I think they developed with 360 in mind and it would be too much work for them... Maybe not but as a long time 2k supporter even since 2ksports became just that... I will not buy another game from them...I am serious about this.. I was planning on buying 2k basketball after downloading and playing the demo but Not now...That piss poor company can Piss off.. If they can't get us a patch as the 360 users, then make the game playable at least.... Videogames are going downhill and fast....
Well the NHL series is a different story from the NBA series. The NBA Series is Visual Concepts/2K's baby, much like Madden is for EA. It has already recieved a patch for both systems, so not buying the NBA game is only cheating yourself really.
The NHL series has nowhere near the budget and or the staffing most likely, so even it's not Sony to blame, poor sales over the last several years probably are. Truth of the matter though, none of us know why and may never know there isn't a patch for the PS3. Take a minute though to think if you were in their shoes though. If you could, would you patch one system or none at all. No matter what the backlash from not patching one system, no patching at all, is even less fruitful.In any case NHL 2K10 is quite playable even without the patch.
After giving NHL 2010 up, I was so looking forward to this game post patch.... Then I started reading this thread and WOW 2k sure is pissin me off... They can blame Sony all they want but I call BS on that.... I think they developed with 360 in mind and it would be too much work for them... Maybe not but as a long time 2k supporter even since 2ksports became just that... I will not buy another game from them...I am serious about this.. I was planning on buying 2k basketball after downloading and playing the demo but Not now...That piss poor company can Piss off.. If they can't get us a patch as the 360 users, then make the game playable at least.... Videogames are going downhill and fast....
2k not patching the PS3 yet because of Sony is only conjecture, not fact. We've yet to hear a confirmation of why there isn't one as of now (which of course has only fueled PS3 conspiracy theories). Hopefully the success of the 360 patch will result in a PS3 patch.
Well the NHL series is a different story from the NBA series. The NBA Series is Visual Concepts/2K's baby, much like Madden is for EA. It has already recieved a patch for both systems, so not buying the NBA game is only cheating yourself really.
The NHL series has nowhere near the budget and or the staffing most likely, so even it's not Sony to blame, poor sales over the last several years probably are. Truth of the matter though, none of us know why and may never know there isn't a patch for the PS3. Take a minute though to think if you were in their shoes though. If you could, would you patch one system or none at all. No matter what the backlash from not patching one system, no patching at all, is even less fruitful.In any case NHL 2K10 is quite playable even without the patch.
Really though Savoie its a double edged sword. I seem to recall NHL2k selling pretty well last gen, and it was critically acclaimed by both the hardcore fans and reviewers alike. If 2k is actually serious about competing with EA's resurgence with hockey, there should be a patch for both systems.
Personally pre patch I didn't find the game to be very playable at all with the defensive and goalie issues, with that being said I certainly feel for those with PS3's, since the're pretty much stuck with a mess of a game.
2k not patching the PS3 yet because of Sony is only conjecture, not fact. We've yet to hear a confirmation of why there isn't one as of now (which of course has only fueled PS3 conspiracy theories). Hopefully the success of the 360 patch will result in a PS3 patch.
The 2KHockey.net mods were alluding to this but in reality what they mean is that they don't want to part with any more money (bandwidth/storage charges etc.), although when I mentioned the 2 free patches the topic got locked quick enough.
This is hardly Sony's fault but I wouldn't expect any proper confirmation from them, just look at how the patch was released.
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