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  • daniel77733
    Banned
    • Nov 2011
    • 3546

    #136
    Re: Rise of the Tomb Raider

    Originally posted by rudyjuly2
    I understand first party games which helps my choose my console. But I don't like this and will make sure my money doesn't go directly to the developers.
    Crystal Dynamics is the developer and you shouldn't take anything out on them whatsoever. Square Enix owns the IP and accepted Microsoft's money in order for them to be able to make it a timed exclusive. If you're going to "take a stand", do it against SE, not Crystal Dynamics.

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    • daniel77733
      Banned
      • Nov 2011
      • 3546

      #137
      Re: Rise of the Tomb Raider

      Originally posted by Picci
      Put me in with those who consider this to be a serious head-scratcher on announcing this news prior to release.

      Something to think about.
      I did a preorder sales listing search for the game and it didn't even hit TOP 40 in the charts. Amazon, had it listed at #59. I'm sure totals will increase but I did find this info telling.

      Game looks gorgeous though. Its hard to determine the vids on the internet but when once you've seen The Order, you get anxious about how games like Until Dawn, Tomb Raider, Uncharted4, and Star Wars cinema/gameplay transitions will play out.
      Pre-order wise, Tomb Raider is getting crushed. I'm pretty sure that if you look it up, Madden 16, MGSV, Mad Max, AC Syndicate, Forza 6, Halo 5, Battlefront, COD and Fallout 4 are all ahead of Tomb Raider. I wouldn't be surprised if Until Dawn is ahead of Tomb Raider as well in pre-orders.

      I agree that Tomb Raider does look excellent but I see it getting lost in the shuffle. Way too many other games that people are more hyped and excited about are coming out before, during or after Tomb Raider. I wouldn't be surprised at all if the game sells less than what the original did on Xbox 360. I also wouldn't be surprised if the PS4 version outsells the Xbox One version at launch.

      The PS4 user install base is almost 2 to 1 and with all the top tier games coming out in the last four months of this year, Tomb Raider is going to be "the odd game out" especially since it's linear. Multi-player / online games like COD and Battlefront will easily blow away Tomb Raider.

      Personally, I think that every major release starting with MGSV and Mad Max is going to outsell Tomb Raider simply because it's in a horrible spot release wise. Only game that I think it will surpass is Just Cause 3 because it comes out on December 8th.

      In the end, the big winners are Square Enix and Sony. The big losers are Microsoft and Crystal Dynamics. Either way, it's going to be very interesting.

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      • ricky24
        MVP
        • Jan 2014
        • 4888

        #138
        Re: Rise of the Tomb Raider

        I still haven't pre ordered. I will be soon though. It's still a ways away.

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        • mgoblue
          Go Wings!
          • Jul 2002
          • 25634

          #139
          Re: Rise of the Tomb Raider

          Originally posted by rudyjuly2
          I've never played a COD game.

          I understand first party games which helps my choose my console. But I don't like this and will make sure my money doesn't go directly to the developers.
          I agree....No Man's Sky and Shenmue III (I think) are similar...at least NMS is coming out on PC, and probably eventually Xbox (they just smartly refuse to talk about that)....Yet they're not complete First Party games...

          We'll all deal, just a slightly frustrating experience.
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          • daniel77733
            Banned
            • Nov 2011
            • 3546

            #140
            Re: Rise of the Tomb Raider

            Originally posted by mgoblue
            I agree....No Man's Sky and Shenmue III (I think) are similar...at least NMS is coming out on PC, and probably eventually Xbox (they just smartly refuse to talk about that)....Yet they're not complete First Party games...

            We'll all deal, just a slightly frustrating experience.
            Completely different situations. No Man's Sky is from a very small Indie developer called Hello Games which if I remember correctly is only a four person team including Sean Murray. Sony is funding the game in order for it to be a console exclusive.

            Shenmue III is not being funded by Sony but most expect them to help out if needed in order to make the game get released. Right now, it's too early to tell what console it will be on but im guessing PS4/PC/Xbox One in that order.

            The difference is that those games are either from an Indie developer or via kickstarter. Rise of the Tomb Raider IP is owned by Square Enix and they're a third party company. They simply made a smarter business decision by taking the guaranteed money up front from Microsoft. Do I agree with it? No. To be perfectly honest, what truly puzzles me is why Microsoft didn't pay to make it at the very least a console exclusive.

            I would never ever pay for a timed exclusive. I look at Street Fighter V which I have no interest in whatsoever but Sony is helping pay for the development and in exchange, it's a console exclusive for PS4. That's a good business move for both Sony and Capcom.

            The Microsoft/SE deal is a great deal for SE but one that could into a disaster for Microsoft. Timed exclusives suck and are a negative plain and simple. Console and full exclusives I can understand.

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            • mgoblue
              Go Wings!
              • Jul 2002
              • 25634

              #141
              Re: Rise of the Tomb Raider

              Originally posted by daniel77733
              Completely different situations. No Man's Sky is from a very small Indie developer called Hello Games which if I remember correctly is only a four person team including Sean Murray. Sony is funding the game in order for it to be a console exclusive.

              Shenmue III is not being funded by Sony but most expect them to help out if needed in order to make the game get released. Right now, it's too early to tell what console it will be on but im guessing PS4/PC/Xbox One in that order.

              The difference is that those games are either from an Indie developer or via kickstarter. Rise of the Tomb Raider IP is owned by Square Enix and they're a third party company. They simply made a smarter business decision by taking the guaranteed money up front from Microsoft. Do I agree with it? No. To be perfectly honest, what truly puzzles me is why Microsoft didn't pay to make it at the very least a console exclusive.

              I would never ever pay for a timed exclusive. I look at Street Fighter V which I have no interest in whatsoever but Sony is helping pay for the development and in exchange, it's a console exclusive for PS4. That's a good business move for both Sony and Capcom.

              The Microsoft/SE deal is a great deal for SE but one that could into a disaster for Microsoft. Timed exclusives suck and are a negative plain and simple. Console and full exclusives I can understand.
              IMO they're similar....Sony's paying for exclusivity for a time. We just don't know how long. We can agree to disagree here, I just feel when a game's on one console and PC then it's frustrating....IMO first party games are only console (like Uncharted). NMS and Shenmue III are both coming to PC at least, so it's different.

              Sony's not paying for the games to be nice cause they're happy people, they want the exclusivity.
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              • daniel77733
                Banned
                • Nov 2011
                • 3546

                #142
                Re: Rise of the Tomb Raider

                Originally posted by mgoblue
                IMO they're similar....Sony's paying for exclusivity for a time. We just don't know how long. We can agree to disagree here, I just feel when a game's on one console and PC then it's frustrating....IMO first party games are only console (like Uncharted). NMS and Shenmue III are both coming to PC at least, so it's different.

                Sony's not paying for the games to be nice cause they're happy people, they want the exclusivity.
                Sony is helping Hello Games fund No Man's Sky and thus, I seriously doubt that they would let them release the game on Xbox One unless Hello Games does everything themselves for the Xbox One version or gets help from Microsoft.

                I know that Sony is paying for exclusivity. Same as Microsoft, for the game to be exclusive to their respective console. Business wise, it's a better decision to pay for a console or full exclusive than a timed one. At least to me anyway.

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                • choadler
                  MVP
                  • Feb 2004
                  • 2002

                  #143
                  Re: Rise of the Tomb Raider

                  I finished Tomb raider definitive edition yesterday. Very very fun game. Looking forward to the next one.

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                  • daniel77733
                    Banned
                    • Nov 2011
                    • 3546

                    #144
                    Re: Rise of the Tomb Raider

                    GamesCom 2015 "tomb" gameplay demo -

                    <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/lJQwDnoRueU" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

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                    • LBzrule
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 13091

                      #145
                      Re: Rise of the Tomb Raider

                      Originally posted by daniel77733
                      GamesCom 2015 "tomb" gameplay demo -

                      <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/lJQwDnoRueU" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
                      Damn!!! Who's supposed to experience trauma here, the character or you? Just watching that looks like one intense and traumatic ride.

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                      • WaddupCouzin
                        MVP
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 2702

                        #146
                        Re: Rise of the Tomb Raider

                        This game is looking good!

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                        • SmashMan
                          All Star
                          • Dec 2004
                          • 9498

                          #147
                          Re: Rise of the Tomb Raider

                          Looks really good. I'll be (im)patiently waiting for the PS4 release.

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                          • ricky24
                            MVP
                            • Jan 2014
                            • 4888

                            #148
                            Re: Rise of the Tomb Raider

                            Everything I see about this just looks great. Can't wait for launch.

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                            • SpritePuck
                              Rookie
                              • May 2014
                              • 408

                              #149
                              Re: Rise of the Tomb Raider

                              My favorite game of all time is the last Tomb Raider....

                              I would buy this, preorder, marry a stranger to play it. But I only have a PS4

                              Please and thank you, someday release this for PS, please I beg and plead!

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                              • SmashMan
                                All Star
                                • Dec 2004
                                • 9498

                                #150
                                Re: Rise of the Tomb Raider

                                Originally posted by SpritePuck
                                My favorite game of all time is the last Tomb Raider....

                                I would buy this, preorder, marry a stranger to play it. But I only have a PS4

                                Please and thank you, someday release this for PS, please I beg and plead!
                                It's coming to PS4 next year.

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