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Old 04-12-2013, 07:57 AM   #89
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That's the dumbest argument I've heard about used games. When people sell their used cars you don't see car manufactures coming out and saying hey we don't get no profit out of it. That's just BS wanna get paid twice for the same product
Aren't the stores reselling these games getting more money out of the same sold product?
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Old 04-12-2013, 09:29 AM   #90
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A rather obstinate stance to take. Don't EA's video games - whether the genre be sports, shooters, RPGs, MMOs, simulations, etc. -
Not when what I'm shopping for is an NFL Video game. Then it's not competing with anyone. My stance isn't obstinate in any way. My stance is REALISTIC. And I wish you wouldn't go and insult me like that, unfairly calling me obstinate.

: perversely adhering to an opinion, purpose, or course in spite of reason, arguments, or persuasion

I'm not the one bending reason to fit an agenda.

Fact. Madden is the only NFL Football Video game on the major consoles. True or False?

Fact. There is no NFL Football Video game competition on the major consoles for Madden. True or False?

That's not perversely adhering to an opinion. And not in spite of reason. That's just fact.
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Old 04-12-2013, 09:38 AM   #91
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Not when what I'm shopping for is an NFL Video game. Then it's not competing with anyone. My stance isn't obstinate in any way. My stance is REALISTIC. And I wish you wouldn't go and insult me like that, unfairly calling me obstinate.

: perversely adhering to an opinion, purpose, or course in spite of reason, arguments, or persuasion

I'm not the one bending reason to fit an agenda.

Fact. Madden is the only NFL Football Video game on the major consoles. True or False?

Fact. There is no NFL Football Video game competition on the major consoles for Madden. True or False?

That's not perversely adhering to an opinion. And not in spite of reason. That's just fact.
So you're saying because you dislike Mercedes Benz, that means the "boat is shaky" even though there are BMWs/Audi/etc. out there... Since everyone loves to use the used car analogy.
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So you're saying because you dislike Mercedes Benz, that means the "boat is shaky" even though there are BMWs/Audi/etc. out there... Since everyone loves to use the used car analogy.
What does BMW, Audi, etc have to do with whether Mercedes Bense is "shady" as a company. If Mercedes Benz marketing advertised their cars to have the best performance of any high end vehicle, but the wheels fell of during Highway Driving, I would say they are "shady".

The point you are trying to make seems rather pointless to me. What does BMW, and Audi, have to do with how Mercedes Benz is run as a company?
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Actually, using advertising rules... if they say they are the best they aren't required to prove it. If they say they are better than a certain company they have to get those facts verified.

My point is it has nothing to do with it. There are still plenty of very good games to play. If Madden was such a big issue that the sim crowd makes it out to be it wouldn't sell. Period. If you want change, make the money talk. I haven't bought Madden for years. I also don't whine about it incessantly (not directed at anyone in particular, but that forum is horrible in general.)

People buy it expecting that it's gonna change? It hasn't changed in the past... oh, countless years.
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I forgot how dedicated sports video gamers were.
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Old 04-12-2013, 10:12 AM   #95
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Not when what I'm shopping for is an NFL Video game. Then it's not competing with anyone. My stance isn't obstinate in any way.
This isn't how competition works.

To restate my point: when EA puts a game on the shelf, it must stand on its own two feet against any other game that exists. That is competition. Your purchasing preferences do not change the reality of the situation EA faces when deciding to publish a video game. Looking at the situation from EA's perspective - not yours - what part of what I am saying is incorrect?

And again, EA purchasing the exclusive rights to the NFL is not anti-competitive any more than Activision purchasing exclusive rights to the 007 franchise is. Activision holding those rights doesn't stop other companies from making story-driven shooter games, other games simply can't use James Bond or any properties from / direct references to the 007 universe (except in the instance of parody, a la all the pop culture references in a series such as Duke Nukem). Likewise, EA purchasing the rights to the NFL doesn't stop anyone else from making a football game, the non-EA company just can't use the NFL to do it (except in the instance of parody, such Mike Mexico's appearance in Blitz: The League).

On the opposite end of the spectrum, is MGM required to make the 007 license available to multiple companies for use in a video game? Of course not, 007 is their franchise they may sell the rights to it however they wish. That being established, why should the case for the NFL be any different?
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This isn't how competition works.
When all I'm looking for is an NFL Video Football game, then that is exactly how competition works. There is only one choice out there for me. I either buy it or do without. So far, I've been forced to do without. Except for M12, even with it's flaws, I thought it was at least starting to head in a better direction.

Again, Madden is the only NFL Video Football game on the major consoles. FACT. True or False?

There is no other NFL Video Football game on the major consoles for Madden to compete with. FACT. True or False?

If I want an NFL Video Football game on my PS3, my choice is Madden or NONE. FACT. True or False?

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And again, EA purchasing the exclusive rights to the NFL is not anti-competitive any more than Activision purchasing exclusive rights to the 007 franchise is.
Nice word play wording. "not anti-competitive" followed with "any more than". What does Activision removing 007 competition have to do with EA removing competition? Mentioning Activision doesn't make EA less of an NFL Video Game pseudo monopoly.

Why are you trying to deflect instead of hitting the issue head on?

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