PYS 2011 - Hitting Tips

[Pielet]

Any hitting tips out there? My Carps are 0-4, I'm averaging about 8-10 hits/gm but mostly singles. I usually never use the power sweet zone. What are others theories on that?

Settings:
Normal difficulty
Real batters eye

[Cyphre]

Re: PYS 2011 - Hitting Tips

Any hitting tips out there? My Carps are 0-4, I'm averaging about 8-10 hits/gm but mostly singles. I usually never use the power sweet zone. What are others theories on that?

Settings:
Normal difficulty
Real batters eye

Well, as in real hitting, timing + sweet spot = hits....timing + sweet spot + player attributes = hits, doubles, triples & HR's...(that depends on players strengths).....timing + sweet spot + power = lots of xtra base hits.

what I'm trying to say is you should try to get to know your hitters and base runners strengths and weaknesses and try to make the most of it. Try to recognize the situation and hit accordingly......ie, if you have a good baserunner on and a good contact hitter at plate.....hit & run....know which players are good hitting opposite field and go the other way......if the player is feeling good (red smiley face) and has some pop....don't be afraid to hit with power....etc.

You have the Carps...right? Soyogi is your leadoff and he's one of the few players that have great speed and some power.....Hingashide I would never hit for power.....Hirose can HIT anything in any direction with and without power.....Kurihara is same as Hirose but with alot more power....Spiderman Akamatsu has speed and some power but not good average hitter. and so forth.

I would recommend sticking with the Carps until you "master" that team and that will help you with getting to know the other teams alot easier. And again, don't be afraid to use power with the hitters that have some....specially if their health "face" is red. and hit to opposite field with hitters that can.

sometimes (VERY RARE) you will hit a HR with a player that has little power because you hit the ball perfectly square on the sweet spot...but other than that you have to get them extra bases on your own.....one last thing .....remember to tap the 4 shoulder buttons when you get a hit, that might help you get an exta base if the player is a good baserunner.......hope that helps.

[swaldo]

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Well, you're doing awesome getting 8-10 hits with real batting point. But if your difficulty is normal the CPU is probably throwing alot of strikes. There's no shame in using normal batting point, this will allow you to increase pitch speed & difficulty (try middle speed / hard minus difficulty) and you can square up on the ball better.

Training is your friend, learn all the batting practice settings and mess around with power and opp field swing. You can also use it to scout the next pitcher you'll face in a game as well.

And solid contact swings result in line drives & doubles in the gap. If you're lucky enough to hit a home run it will probably be right down the line.

Solid Power swings increase trajectory, so if you want to go after the wall that's what you'll need to use.

[Pielet]

Thanks guys will implement a lot of this. Sounds a lot like the show with using training to scout the next pitcher.

It just seemed the CPU hits HR on low and outside pitches sometimes so I figured I need some power swings to start.

Real batter eye isn't so bad once you see the initial movement. From there it's moving the bat to where you anticipate the ball. I imagine with power swings it'll be even tougher.

I also typically let pitches go when they pitcher nails his release spot (ie a very small ball) and wait for the meatball exclamations. Do most do that?

Loving the game. I do mash the buttons after a hit. Baserunning is tricky for me as it seems it doesn't register an advance until the person is near the base, which has cost me some runs.

[Cyphre]

Re: PYS 2011 - Hitting Tips

Thanks guys will implement a lot of this. Sounds a lot like the show with using training to scout the next pitcher.

It just seemed the CPU hits HR on low and outside pitches sometimes so I figured I need some power swings to start.

Real batter eye isn't so bad once you see the initial movement. From there it's moving the bat to where you anticipate the ball. I imagine with power swings it'll be even tougher.

I also typically let pitches go when they pitcher nails his release spot (ie a very small ball) and wait for the meatball exclamations. Do most do that?

Loving the game. I do mash the buttons after a hit. Baserunning is tricky for me as it seems it doesn't register an advance until the person is near the base, which has cost me some runs.

power swings are tougher....but in time you will get the hang of it.

the very small ball thing....it depends what the count is and the location.....i try to go with my batters ability and timing.......although hitting a perfect pitch is maybe the hardest thing to do in this game....specially if it's located well....it can be done.....

as for base running ....if you're trying to hustle .....just hold down the triangle with thumb as you're tapping all 4 shoulder buttons.....to return to a base switch your thumb from triangle to circle .....have fun

[SqueakyD]

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Don't forget how powerful a sac bunt is, especially with weaker offensive teams. If you're playing with a weak lineup, there's a higher chance of hitting that dribbler to an infielder which usually leads to a double play. So why not bunt your teammate to scoring position? It's how I finally won with the Chiba Lotte after a handful of losses!

[Pielet]

Don't forget how powerful a sac bunt is, especially with weaker offensive teams. If you're playing with a weak lineup, there's a higher chance of hitting that dribbler to an infielder which usually leads to a double play. So why not bunt your teammate to scoring position? It's how I finally won with the Chiba Lotte after a handful of losses!

I'm def a Bill James disciple, sorry no small ball as mathematically it doesn't make sense. Surprised Japan hasn't followed this advice from Mr. James.

[Cyphre]

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I'm def a Bill James disciple, sorry no small ball as mathematically it doesn't make sense. Surprised Japan hasn't followed this advice from Mr. James.

Well, in Japan, small ball is THE meal ticket....and that is why their product is so great and they are the 2 time (and reigning) WBC champions....remember the name in front of the jersey is always most important, that's why the name on the back takes a backseat.....


plus, making 35% of your shots in basketball, 35% passer rating in football or 35% of saves as a goalie in hockey and you be out of a job soon....but 35% (.350) hitting avg. in baseball and you are immortal....although "mathematically it doesn't make sense"....

[Pielet]

Well, in Japan, small ball is THE meal ticket....and that is why their product is so great and they are the 2 time (and reigning) WBC champions....remember the name in front of the jersey is always most important, that's why the name on the back takes a backseat.....


plus, making 35% of your shots in basketball, 35% passer rating in football or 35% of saves as a goalie in hockey and you be out of a job soon....but 35% (.350) hitting avg. in baseball and you are immortal....although "mathematically it doesn't make sense"....

I think Bill James knows more than you or I do. Last I checked Japanese baseball has one fixed point not unlike US baseball: 27 outs. An out is your most precious resource in baseball and giving up one has been shown to be mathematically not viable in terms of expected values.

It has nothing to do with the "quality" argument. The WBC is not a good measuring stick with which to compare countries.

[SqueakyD]

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I totally understand the importance of Bill James, but I have a couple arguments. Not on his actual theory, however.

1.) Crazy analogy here, but why arm yourself with only an assault rifle when you can equip a sidearm as well? What if your assault rifle malfunctions? Refusing to use a sac bunt is like a self-handicap. Use all the tools in the shed.

2.) Sabermetrics don't apply to video games. Bill James has nothing on batters "having a view from behind the catcher" or batters "getting warned on a fat pitch because he sees an exclamation point above the pitchers head." Not all video baseball is the same as real baseball, so all statistical theory based upon real ball is tossed out the window on the PS3.

I'm not saying that Mr. James is wrong, but I'm just trying to say don't exclude yourself in trying to win a game.

[Pielet]

I totally understand the importance of Bill James, but I have a couple arguments. Not on his actual theory, however.

1.) Crazy analogy here, but why arm yourself with only an assault rifle when you can equip a sidearm as well? What if your assault rifle malfunctions? Refusing to use a sac bunt is like a self-handicap. Use all the tools in the shed.

2.) Sabermetrics don't apply to video games. Bill James has nothing on batters "having a view from behind the catcher" or batters "getting warned on a fat pitch because he sees an exclamation point above the pitchers head." Not all video baseball is the same as real baseball, so all statistical theory based upon real ball is tossed out the window on the PS3.

I'm not saying that Mr. James is wrong, but I'm just trying to say don't exclude yourself in trying to win a game.

I would argue differently. You still have 27 outs in a video game as well. If it's close and late in a game I think it's a viable option as would a lot of James disciples say, but early on and as frequent as it is used I would disagree.

Thanks for the tips on power hitting, finally jacked two dingers by my LF. Even followed the bunt strategy but popped it up lol. Gotta work on that.

Great game as we fall to 0-6. Oh well learning the game. We lost 7-6 and I had 12 hits versus the giants.

Last game of the series and mr. Maeda is pitching. We need a win!

[Perfect Zero]

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Sabrmetrics does indeed apply to videogames, but the gripe about small ball is not a good argument. The Texas Rangers build their offense on speed and power, but they led the American League in sacrifice bunts. It seemed to work out well for them. To dismiss small ball is to take out an important part of the game.

[Pielet]

Sabrmetrics does indeed apply to videogames, but the gripe about small ball is not a good argument. The Texas Rangers build their offense on speed and power, but they led the American League in sacrifice bunts. It seemed to work out well for them. To dismiss small ball is to take out an important part of the game.

Thats cause the American League isn't a small ball league not cause the Rangers follow that philosophy.

No one is saying to dismiss it. Mathematically it's simply not the greatest run generator out there, that's all.

[SqueakyD]

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Yeah, I'm definitely not on the "small ball all game" boat, but there's a time and place for it as you mention.

Good luck, Pielet! Maeda is a playa'.

[Pielet]

Yeah, I'm definitely not on the "small ball all game" boat, but there's a time and place for it as you mention.

Good luck, Pielet! Maeda is a playa'.

Wow! Maeda gets tagged for a solo shot but Chad Tracy has one for the Carp as well. 2-2 bottom of the ninth and Tracy jacks his second solo shot to end the game at Mazda! We are off the Schneid!!!! I hate the Giants man EVERYONE can jack one except the lefty who bats like Youkilis. Now onto the Swallows.