The Sack Race aka Official Management Carousel Thread

[Perceptor]

By popular demand on the transfer thread, this is the thread to post managerial changes in

[Perceptor]

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Now that we have a managerial changes thread, here's my thought on Rafa.

I think he wasn't a great fit at all from the start and this season just proved that. Perez is ruining that team with his constant tinkering and desire to sign Galacticos. They may sell jerseys but the chemistry is another thing. I liked the Kroos signing, but was James really necessary? Still on the fence with Bale, but was losing Ozil worth it?

[Brahvocado]

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Rafa was never a good fit from the very beginning. If Carlo got the sack despite everybody loving and respecting him, Rafa was never going to last coming in as likely not very well respected.

As for Perez, you have to remember RM have done this since far longer than Perez has been president. Zidane is their 19th manager in 20 years. They also happen to have the misfortune of having some of their better squads during a period where Barcelona have fielded some of the best teams in the history of the game. The hire and fire stuff has sort of worked out for them, similar to Chelsea only slightly less successful. Without such a strong Barca I think RM would be steamrolling that league.

Even a lot of the Galacticos have largely worked out. Dima was great, and definitely helped them get that CL trophy, but he was super inconsistent and they swapped him for James who has been absolutely phenomenal. James is legit one of the best players on their team. If any signing hasn't panned out it's Kroos, but only because they refuse to field an actual DM. Bale has been one of their best players for the better part of a year now. Letting Ozil go looks bad right now because RM are struggling, but he didn't fit Carlo's system and they obviously did fine without him for a while.

Madrid is basically a higher tier Chelsea. It's a club run by a billionaire, who is a legitimate fan of the club, but that is also the root of a lot of their problems.

Anyway, I'm very curious to see how Zizou does.

[jb12780]

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Didn't Rafa win like 18 out of 25 matches for Real?

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[Brahvocado]

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He did, but when you are Real Madrid 18/25 games won isn't good enough. Especially when you are losing to basically every decent team you come across. 4-0 at the Bernabau with Messi not even on the field is pretty yikes.

[Suntan Superman]

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Didn't Rafa win like 18 out of 25 matches for Real?

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And this is why I'll never blame a team for "running up the score"

[fugazi]

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Without such a strong Barca I think RM would be steamrolling that league.

Without a strong Barca would they have spent so ravenously?

[KG]

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Without a strong Barca would they have spent so ravenously?

Probably but it's impossible to predict.

They need to just go ahead and get Jose. He's the only one who can really compete with Barca BUT it won't be pretty which unfortunately is the #1 MO for Real.

Until they buy a deep holding MF like they lost on Xabi they will be getting dominated by Barca. As good as James is, and he's really good minus the injuries, their MF just gets overrun since Kroos isn't great defensively, neither is Modric. Cassemeiro should have started the Classico in a 4-3-3 or 4-1-2-3 hybrid but Rafa felt the need to include every good attacking player they have in the lineup and they just got hammered in the MF by Busquests, Rakitic, and Iniesta.

Even going out and buying a good young player in Kovacic made zero sense when you already have James, Isco, and Kroos who can all play that position.

[fugazi]

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apparently, several powerful players rejected Mourinho at the suggestion...

I think Zidane will be fine. His mentality might be just what they need.

[Brahvocado]

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Pretty much all the players that didn't like Jose are gone, think Ramos is the only one left that would have a problem with him.

[Zac]

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Jose will not be going to MCU. The club has come out and said they are still backing LVG, and also said the Griggs will be his replacement when the time comes.

http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2016/jan/06/manchester-united-louis-van-gaal-ryan-giggs-manager-jose-mourinho-zinedine-zidane-premier-league

[ImTellinTim]

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So if Real doesn't take him back, where does Jose end up? PSG? Portugal?

[Brahvocado]

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Plot twist: Jose back to Chelsea in the summer

[Perceptor]

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Real won't take him back unless Zidane struggles mightily and PSG is in the process of extending Blanc. I doubt he'll go back to Porto but what about being England Manager? It's ridiculous but if England struggle in euro 2016 and Roy goes, wouldn't it be just something if that happened?

[fearwhatnow]

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As Brahvocado posted I would love to see this plot twist. The team's not performing well even under a new manager and imo Chelsea is even worse now in defending than with Jose. That said, Jose returns in the summer and demands 15 new players to build the team again from scratch.