RES2 2K23 All Star Current Gen Sliders

[res2]

Note - this slider set is designed and tested for for Current Gen.

This set is influenced by ideas from other great slider sets that I recommend checking out.

That said, it is important to note that Current Gen definitely playing a little different than Next Gen based on the slider ideas in the Next Gen sets. I have seen it reported that Da Czar has confirmed the Next Gen AI is different that Current gen so slider concepts that work in one may not work in the other.

So while I continue to monitor the Next Gen slider threads, Current Gen sliders will need to be different.

My usual caveats - I do not use the shot stick or aiming system. I'm a button shooter using Real Player %. Your style may require adjustments. I play Season Mode with a completely custom team (Seattle Skyhawks - see the images above).

I recommend making certain roster attribute, tendency, and badge changes as some issues can only be addressed through roster updates. More on that below.

Remember that everyone's playstyle, preferences, and skill is different so your experience may vary.


User vs CPU Sliders
Here are the sliders. These are early draft sliders that I will be updating as I test, get feedback, and adjust for 2K patch impacts.

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Final Version

SETTINGS
Game Difficulty: Start All Star, Superstar, or HOF (I'm now starting on Superstar, then edit)
Game Speed: 56 (suggest 55 to 60)
Camera: Broadcast, Nosebleed, or Skybox

CONTROLLER SETTINGS
Shot Timing: Real Player %
Free Throw Timing: Real Player %
Defensive Assist with Intense-D: 10 (suggest 0-25)
Box Assist Strength: 50


SLIDERS
USER/CPU (if only 1 number they are the same for both)

OFFENSE
Inside Shot Success - 40/44
Close Shot Success - 52/56
Mid-Range Shot Success - 58/62
3PT Success - 58/62
Layup Success – 44/48
Shot Coverage Impact - 35
Shot Timing Impact - 0
Dunk in Traffic Frequency - 50
Dunk in Traffic Success - 50
Pass Accuracy - 15
Alley-Oop Success - 65/50
Contact Shot Success - 35
Ball Security - 0
Body-Up Sensitivity - 15/25
Pass Speed - 40

DEFENSE
Driving Contact Shot Frequency - 65
Inside Contact Shot Frequency - 85
Layup Defense Strength (Takeoff) - 85
Layup Defense Strength (Release) - 55
Jump Shot Defense Strength (Gather) - 15
Jump Shot Defense Strength (Release) - 35
Help Defense Strength - 75
Steal Success - 30 (offset by higher values below)

ATTRIBUTES
Acceleration - 35
Vertical – 25
Strength – 35
Stamina – 55/50
Speed – 55
Durability - 50
Hustle – 85/25
Ball Handling – 35
Hands – 85
Dunking Ability - 50
On-Ball Defense – 85/75
Stealing – 85
Blocking – 55
Offensive Awareness - 75/85
Defensive Awareness – 25
Offensive Rebounding - 10
Defensive Rebounding – 25
Offensive Consistency - 45/55
Defensive Consistency - 45/55
Fatigue Rate – 50
Lateral Quickness - 55

TENDENCIES
Take Inside Shots - 40
Take Close Shots - 15
Take Mid-Range Shots - 65
Take 3PT Shots - 85
Post Shots - 50
Attack the Basket - 55
Look for Post Players - 65
Throw Alley-Oops - 60
Attempt Dunks - 65
Attempt Putbacks - 40
Play Passing Lanes - 85
Go for On-Ball Steals - 85
Contest Shots - 75
Backdoor Cuts - 50

FOULS
Over the Back Foul Frequency - 100
Charging Foul Frequency - 100
Blocking Foul Frequency - 100
Reaching Foul Frequency - 100
Shooting Foul Frequency - 85
Loose Ball Foul Frequency – 100
Illegal Screen Frequency – 15

MOVEMENT
Speed with Ball (Max rating) - 85
Speed with Ball (Min rating) - 25
Acceleration with Ball (Max rating) - 85
Acceleration with Ball (Min rating) - 25
Speed without Ball (Max rating) - 85
Speed without Ball (Min rating) - 30
Acceleration without Ball (Max rating) - 85
Acceleration without Ball (Min rating) - 30

Roster Edits for Attributes, Tendencies, and Badges

There are aspects of gameplay that can only be adjusted by making key roster edits. I recommend these changes.

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You can only do this once you have started a League or Season so you can use the All Players screen while editing. Select Front Office then Roster. Enter Quick Edit mode and switch to the All Player screen.


Attributes -

To help with defensive reactions and help defense in particular, I suggest these two edits.

Help IQ (Help IQ) +10
Defensive Consistency (DCNST) +10


Tendencies -

See the table below for my recommended edits. Lets use Drive as an example.

Sort the Drive tendency in descending order. Manually reduce the individual top players until the max scores are 80. Then select the entire column (Press A to cycle through individual cell, row, and column options until you have the entire column selected) and flick the right stick down 35 (so the max score is now 45 since you started with a max score of 80) then flick the right stick up 5. All the scores that were just at 0 are now at 5 and the max up from 45 to is 50. You will now have a range for Drive from 5 to 50 for all players.

If any column adjustment has max scores of 100, I flick down once to set the max to 99. I'll also check the top scores for any tendency to see if the top rated players look right and adjust a few top players manually as needed.

A note on the contested midrange and contested 3pt tendency - increasing these two tendencies improves the overall offensive flow and decision making of the CPU team and avoids the CPU's tendency (no pun intended) to over pass and run down the clock. The willingness to take move contested shots seems to be an important adjustment for better CPU offense.

Here is the table of tendency edits.




Badges -

I have adjusted badges because I find they are unrealistic. I mostly rely on roster Attributes and Tendencies for good gameplay. I use the global edit feature to edit badges. In your roster, use the quick edit feature, go to the all players screen. Flick the right stick down once for each badge column to eliminate the bronze badges badges. Legendary becomes Gold, Gold becomes Silver, and Silver becomes bronze. I leave the Blue personality badges unchanged.

From justintasha1996's slider post (you should check it out) and Celtic's roster work (also check it out and donate if you can), these badge changes should be made in your roster.

These 15 badges (the list is in the order you will find them) should be completely removed as they provide unrealistic arcade like boosts to attributes -

1.Pro touch (Pt)
2.Comeback Kid (CK)
3.Green Machine (GM)
4.Volume Shooter ( VS)
5.Floor General (FG)
6.Hypher Drive ( HD)
7.Post Playmaker (PP)
8.Unpluckable (UNP)
9.Vice Grip (VG)
10.Ankle Braces (ABR)
11.Boxout Beast (BB)
12.Chase Down Artist (CDA)
13.Pogo Stick (PS)
14.Rebound Chaser (RC)
15.Work Horse (WH)

Add these defensive badges (also in the order you will find them) to every player:

1.Challenger
2.Clamps (CLP)
3.Off Ball Pest (OBP)
4.Pick Dodger (PD)
5.Post Lockdown (PL)

MyLeague Settings

Here are the MyLeague setting I am using. For now I seem to be getting pretty good Sim stats, but you probably need to make the roster tendency edits noted below also.

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Quarter Length - 12min
Simulated Quarter Length - 12min
Normalize Played to Sim Minutes - Off
Normalized Played to Sim Stats - Off

FATIGUE
Player Fatigue Rate - 50
Player Recovery Rate - 50

TEAM STYLE FACTORS
Team Pace - 5
Team Fastbreak - 35

POSSESSION RESULTS
Possessions Per Game - 5
Shots - 5
Assists - 5
Steals - 40
Blocks - 55
Turnovers - 50
Fouls - 5
Injuries - 5

SHOT TYPES
Dunk - 50
Layup - 50
Shot Close - 50
Shot Medium - 65
Shot three - 30

SHOT PERCENTAGE
Dunk Percentage - 40
Layup Percentage - 40
Close Range Shot Percentage - 40
Medium Range Shot Percentage - 40
Three Point Percentage - 40
Free Throw Percentage - 55

STAT DISTRIBUTIONS
Shot Distribution - 35
Offensive Rebound Distribution - 40
Defensive Rebound Distribution - 40
Team Rebounds - 50
Assist Distribution - 25
Steam Distribution - 40
Block Distribution - 40
Foul Distribution - 40

Coaching Adjustments

Set the Help Defense slider to more than 70. I have every team set to 75 and like the help defense I'm seeing.

I have also set each team to Protect the Paint and Play Physical for better spacing and more fouls.


Reminders

Everyone's expectations, style, and skills are different. Use these and other sliders as ideas to try out and adjust to fit what works for you. Make suggestions and test things out. Post your findings and results for others to benefit. Be kind. Have fun.

Thanks again - as always!

[res2]

Re: RES2 2K23 All Star Current Gen Sliders

Edit: Sliders now posted above. I'll add new game stats here once I have them.

Siders moved above. Game stats removed while I tinker.

[Baller45123]

Re: RES2 2K23 All Star Current Gen Sliders

It's my first time playing 2k on PC since I no longer have a console.

I tried out your sliders (tweaked them slightly for my playstyle). I've been able to get pretty realistic play and stats except for a couple of areas.

CPU 3PA is still low (always in the 20's). I think part of it might be the CPU animations drive by my defense and score inside over them like they aren't even there. Have you experienced any of that?

I also noticed on offense when I'm on a fast break or have an open lane, my players tend to slow down and let the defense catch-up and end up taking a contested lay-up rather than what should have been an easy dunk.

Not sure which sliders I can adjust to amend these minor issues without affecting everything else that's working seamlessly.

[res2]

Re: RES2 2K23 All Star Current Gen Sliders

It's my first time playing 2k on PC since I no longer have a console.

I tried out your sliders (tweaked them slightly for my playstyle). I've been able to get pretty realistic play and stats except for a couple of areas.

CPU 3PA is still low (always in the 20's). I think part of it might be the CPU animations drive by my defense and score inside over them like they aren't even there. Have you experienced any of that?

I also noticed on offense when I'm on a fast break or have an open lane, my players tend to slow down and let the defense catch-up and end up taking a contested lay-up rather than what should have been an easy dunk.

Not sure which sliders I can adjust to amend these minor issues without affecting everything else that's working seamlessly.

I hear you.

On 3PA I like the attempts in the 20s because I grew up on 80s and 90s basketball LOL.

For higher attempts, there is room to increase the 3 Point tendency. I think I only have it at 65 for now, so bump that up in 5 click increments until you are getting attempts you like.

For the fast breaks, some of this continues to be just how the game is coded, but it's better than previous years. I think increasing the Hustle slider can help. Bump up Hustle for the user and see if that seems to improve it.

I'm out at a conference for work so won't be able to test for a couple of days but I'd love to hear back on any results you see.

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[ruxpinke]

Re: RES2 2K23 All Star Current Gen Sliders

I’m not seeing double teams, even when I should be. Is there a setting I am missing ?


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[res2]

Re: RES2 2K23 All Star Current Gen Sliders

I’m not seeing double teams, even when I should be. Is there a setting I am missing ?


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Check the team coaching tendencies on your roster. The coaching tendency for help defense was mistakenly set to 0 for all teams. I think this impacts double teams. This value should be set to 50 or more for each team.

2K will patch this soon (hopefully) but you may need to adjust this ourselves for now.

See if this change helps.

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[res2]

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Check the team coaching tendencies on your roster. The coaching tendency for help defense was mistakenly set to 0 for all teams. I think this impacts double teams. This value should be set to 50 or more for each team.

2K will patch this soon (hopefully) but you may need to adjust this ourselves for now.

See if this change helps.

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When I get home tonight, I'll add a link to the thread in the general forum that references this help defense bug.

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[ruxpinke]

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I can’t find coaching tendencies. Feel like I’m going crazy lol


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[res2]

Re: RES2 2K23 All Star Current Gen Sliders

I can’t find coaching tendencies. Feel like I’m going crazy lol


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I had to start a season. I don't think you can edit them from the main roster but only once you start a league or season. Which sucks.

I was out of town and just landed but I'll add that link to the post in a bit.

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[res2]

Re: RES2 2K23 All Star Current Gen Sliders

Here is that post on double teams -

https://forums.operationsports.com/f...uble-team.html

[Baller45123]

Re: RES2 2K23 All Star Current Gen Sliders

Made some more minor adjustments and here are the stat's I've been getting. I only screenshotted two games, but I've had multiple games in this range. I controlled the Raptors and Magic in the two games.

Looking to improve:

• Create more 3-point opportunities for both CPU and User
  Increase the dead ball/unforced turnovers
  Increased blocks

In the game, it does feel like there are a lot of three-point attempts, but then when I see the stats, it's always in the twenties. Part of it is likely the team selection. 32 3PA out of 72FGA for the raptors isn't terrible, and I played the first half against Dallas, and they took a bunch. I'd like to see more corner threes on the shot chart, possibly a coaching tendency/playbook change I can make.

Steals numbers aren't unrealistic, but I haven't had any outlier games with many steals. And the CPU hasn't been making any unforced errors (i.e. three in the key, offensive fouls, errant passes) as much as I have.

Haven't had any high blocks games either, and Rudy Gobert getting 0 against a team with 7-footers seems unrealistic.

[res2]

Re: RES2 2K23 All Star Current Gen Sliders

Hi Baller - those stats look really good. Nice to see.

Agree on 3pt attempts if you are looking for more, I'd continue to bump that tendency up to see if you get more attempts from the CPMO.

Turnovers are tougher and I've always struggled to get enough unforced turnovers in particular in previous years. Drop pass accuracy and Ball Security down. I have these at about 25 currently but may go lower to get for unforced turnovers.

Also increase Play Passing Lanes and Go For on Ball Steals for more forced turnovers/steals.

For Blocks, I have been getting a few but not a lot either. The combo of the lower Vertical and Block sliders might be too low. Bump those both up until you are seeing the block numbers you expect.

Keep me posted!

[DarthRambo]

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Any ideas how to get cpu to attempt more threes and stop the paint cheese? Halftime of a game I am in now and Wizards have 44 points. Only 8 3pt attempts and 32 PIP out of 44 total. It's seriously not fun at all. Every play is PnR and hit the roll for Layup. Or literally no pass and PG force drives to the rim.

This is with all shot tendency in sliders at 0. Mid and 3pt shot tendency at 100. Attack basket at 0 too. What in the world is going on? Like they aren't even running a set play with coach slider run plays is at 100. Very little movement other than a screen, then drive to basket, or pnr. I'm so lost! Lol

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[res2]

Re: RES2 2K23 All Star Current Gen Sliders

Any ideas how to get cpu to attempt more threes and stop the paint cheese? Halftime of a game I am in now and Wizards have 44 points. Only 8 3pt attempts and 32 PIP out of 44 total. It's seriously not fun at all. Every play is PnR and hit the roll for Layup. Or literally no pass and PG force drives to the rim.

This is with all shot tendency in sliders at 0. Mid and 3pt shot tendency at 100. Attack basket at 0 too. What in the world is going on? Like they aren't even running a set play even with coach slider run plays is at 100. Very little movement other than a screen, then drive to basket, or pnr. I'm so lost! Lol

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Argh! I hate that.

It might be the redonkulous 2K roster tendencies. One thing I did before I started my season is a bunch of roster tendency updates. I only do these edits once I have created the season (or league) so that I can take advantage of the All Players edit screen. I edit some of the highest rated players to eliminate some extremes. I use the feature to edit the entire column to make global reductions or increases as needed.

Here are all the changes I made, but the key might be the reductions to the various DRIVE tendencies. These changes are what I want to see for better ball movement, less driving into the paint, less isolation play, etc.

BTW - I also get rid of a lot of badges. When editing All Players, on most badges a flick the right stick down once to eliminate all bronze badges, shift silver to bronze, etc. So you end up with much fewer badges and the Max values are gold (no legendary). Then I tweak a few to bump up real superstars for key badges as I see fit.

Here are the updates to roster tendencies I make.

[res2]

Re: RES2 2K23 All Star Current Gen Sliders

So some detail to clarify.

When the adjustment says something like this -

• Start at 80, down 35, up 5

What that means is this -

Edit tendencies and switch to the All Player screen.

Sort that tendency column (Drive in this case) in descending order. Manually reduce the individual top players until the max scores are 80. Then select the entire column (Press A to cycle through individual cell, row, and column options until you have the entire column selected) and flick the right stick down 35 (so the max score is now 45 since you started with a max score of 80) then flick the right stick up 5. All the scores that were just at 0 are now at 5 and the max up from 45 to is 50. You will now have a range for Drive from 5 to 50 for all players.

If any column adjustment has max scores of 100, I flick down once to set the max to 99. I'll also check the top scores for any tendency to see if the top rated players look right and adjust a few top players manually as needed so there is not some scrub at 99 just because the 2K roster has garbage data sometimes.

Hope that makes sense.