Today Mike Wang posted this on twitter:
"Would like to hear specifically from Play Now Online and MT players who are primarily playing Team Control type modes. How are you doing with the more skill-based shot timing having to control multiple different players?"
His survey on twitter shows that he finally understood that you can't make one shooting system for multiple game modes: playing all a team or one player is not the same : good news.
However, for me, the problem is not whether it is too easy or not, the problem is that "green = make". Always, always. So it is silly to ask if the shooting system is too easy or not, because with some animations it is TOO easy AND with others it is TOO difficult. This is even absurd sometimes, for example: Curry's Floater and Abdul-Jabbar's Hook have very difficult timing. But really really difficult from the superstar difficulty: try! Jabbar's hook... wow, impossible... Crazy. Sometimes it's even easier to do a sprint shot or a shot after a spin than a simple catch and shoot. This is not logical! The result? There are animations that nobody uses, or movements that nobody uses...
Even the AI, when it makes "green=make" we can't do anything even if we contest at 100% ! I find the game easy in all star, in superstar it's harder, not because the ia is smarter, but because my shots go in less...or not... when I play with cheated animations...
I think they should stop green=make. They should do "green = big bonus %real shoot" instead. Or keep the current system but use the statistics of the players' tendencies to define which animations are easy or difficult.
But Mike wang has also expressed himself on reddit:
"There was a technical reason why we had to go with 4 settings instead of 5 (which would have included Normal.) This feature came in very late in the dev cycle, at which point we were no longer allowed to change the size of our save file format. So we had to get creative and use a dormant setting that wasn't being used. At the end of the day, the names of the 4 options are completely arbitrary since we changed how shot timing works compared to previous years anyway. So they might as well have been called 1, 2, 3, 4. But we just opted for more understandable names, even though it was weird that we didn't have a Normal option. We were thinking about going with Early, Normal, Late, and Very Late but that seemed equally weird. For 2k24, we'll implement the feature "properly" and give you guys 5 options.... that is, if we can't get the PGA shot calibration idea implemented that SandyDFS mentioned. that was what we originally wanted to do."
They want to make a system like in PGA tour. Why not. I want to see, but I am afraid to find the same problems as now.
But here's what makes me the most angry: "For 2k24, we'll implement the feature "properly" in other words in 2k23 the feature is not implemented properly, pay 90 dollars next year and you will have a properly implemented feature...
He admits that his shooting system was done at the last moment... at the last moment... personally I don't find that serious. Everything seems to me to have been done at the last moment. But, what angers me the most is to read that he will make a working system next year? next year? 2k24? You don't plan to fix your game? ACE, offensive/defensive tactics, animation bugs, reset command, reset animation, display errors, drafts that can't be loaded and much more. Other game developers fix their bugs without asking us to pay again. CyberPunk2077, they apologized, updates are free. It's been 3 years that I can't control the offensive tactics properly in nba2k: I have to wait another year and pay 90 dollars? Stop!
"For 2k24, we'll implement the feature "properly": Listen mike Wang, before talking about 2k24, finish your game... 500 dollars PS5 + 90 dollars a game that was done at the last moment? Do you know how much money it takes to make a "no properly" game? I can't even ask for a refund. I understand those who prefer NBA2k11 or 2k12. The AI and animations are not as good as 2k23, but at least the games were finished in the past. Finish your game this year before talking about the next one! Fix your game.
"Would like to hear specifically from Play Now Online and MT players who are primarily playing Team Control type modes. How are you doing with the more skill-based shot timing having to control multiple different players?"
His survey on twitter shows that he finally understood that you can't make one shooting system for multiple game modes: playing all a team or one player is not the same : good news.
However, for me, the problem is not whether it is too easy or not, the problem is that "green = make". Always, always. So it is silly to ask if the shooting system is too easy or not, because with some animations it is TOO easy AND with others it is TOO difficult. This is even absurd sometimes, for example: Curry's Floater and Abdul-Jabbar's Hook have very difficult timing. But really really difficult from the superstar difficulty: try! Jabbar's hook... wow, impossible... Crazy. Sometimes it's even easier to do a sprint shot or a shot after a spin than a simple catch and shoot. This is not logical! The result? There are animations that nobody uses, or movements that nobody uses...
Even the AI, when it makes "green=make" we can't do anything even if we contest at 100% ! I find the game easy in all star, in superstar it's harder, not because the ia is smarter, but because my shots go in less...or not... when I play with cheated animations...
I think they should stop green=make. They should do "green = big bonus %real shoot" instead. Or keep the current system but use the statistics of the players' tendencies to define which animations are easy or difficult.
But Mike wang has also expressed himself on reddit:
"There was a technical reason why we had to go with 4 settings instead of 5 (which would have included Normal.) This feature came in very late in the dev cycle, at which point we were no longer allowed to change the size of our save file format. So we had to get creative and use a dormant setting that wasn't being used. At the end of the day, the names of the 4 options are completely arbitrary since we changed how shot timing works compared to previous years anyway. So they might as well have been called 1, 2, 3, 4. But we just opted for more understandable names, even though it was weird that we didn't have a Normal option. We were thinking about going with Early, Normal, Late, and Very Late but that seemed equally weird. For 2k24, we'll implement the feature "properly" and give you guys 5 options.... that is, if we can't get the PGA shot calibration idea implemented that SandyDFS mentioned. that was what we originally wanted to do."
They want to make a system like in PGA tour. Why not. I want to see, but I am afraid to find the same problems as now.
But here's what makes me the most angry: "For 2k24, we'll implement the feature "properly" in other words in 2k23 the feature is not implemented properly, pay 90 dollars next year and you will have a properly implemented feature...
He admits that his shooting system was done at the last moment... at the last moment... personally I don't find that serious. Everything seems to me to have been done at the last moment. But, what angers me the most is to read that he will make a working system next year? next year? 2k24? You don't plan to fix your game? ACE, offensive/defensive tactics, animation bugs, reset command, reset animation, display errors, drafts that can't be loaded and much more. Other game developers fix their bugs without asking us to pay again. CyberPunk2077, they apologized, updates are free. It's been 3 years that I can't control the offensive tactics properly in nba2k: I have to wait another year and pay 90 dollars? Stop!
"For 2k24, we'll implement the feature "properly": Listen mike Wang, before talking about 2k24, finish your game... 500 dollars PS5 + 90 dollars a game that was done at the last moment? Do you know how much money it takes to make a "no properly" game? I can't even ask for a refund. I understand those who prefer NBA2k11 or 2k12. The AI and animations are not as good as 2k23, but at least the games were finished in the past. Finish your game this year before talking about the next one! Fix your game.
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