With Real College players in this game does anyone believe EA has hired a Ratings ,&

[Chiefsfan881129]

A ratings & equipment guy similar to madden?

To provide Roster Updates throughout the season to reflect the current rosters & update the ratings based on a player performance?

Would be an interesting new thing that we never would have gotten in the old game since it didn't include real players

Roster Updates would be good too for more realistic player ratings for players you will be importing into madden to reflect the incoming 2025 draft class in off season!
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[canes21]

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They definitely had a ratings gay in the past NCAA games despite not having the player names in the release copy of the game. Obviously we did not get in season roster updates back then, but there was a ratings guy/team. I would assume they have a team dedicated to the rosters now and are using places like PFF to heavily dictate how players are rated and the rest of the responsibilities of the team are to get players to look as close to the real thing as possible with regards to their body shapes, skin color, faces, and equipment.

[illwill10]

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When it comes to ratings in general, I wouldn't expect close to real life ratings. I just think there is too many players to account for. As far as out of the box ratings, I think they possibly already hinted at how they could rate most players just by the way they would handle opt-outs. Wish I could find the exact phrasing for it, but I remember thinking the way they would handle opt would be a good way to handle most players. Paraphrasing, I remember them saying Opt-outs would be replaced with generics that are rated based on the position at the school in the last decade of success. So someone like Arch Manning would be rated based on the past decade of Texas QBs. So unless it's a notable player, I expect more an average rating of the past decade at that school. I wouldn't expect "accurate" ratings for G5 schools and most lower level P5. I expect it was more of "How was the average QB at XX, and what are the type of players that fit their scheme"

[gr18]

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They may look to get fairly accurate rosters and give updates but I'd be surprised if things weren't fairly locked down in-game.You'll probably be able to edit equipment but not player names or ratings.

[GoDucks1224]

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They may look to get fairly accurate rosters and give updates but I'd be surprised if things weren't fairly locked down in-game.You'll probably be able to edit equipment but not player names or ratings.

You can edit player names and ratings in Madden, because EA has a signed NIL contract with the NFLPA. I think not being able to edit names of real players is probably true, but I don't think they'll prevent us from editing ratings. Only exceptions might be the fake players created in place of opt outs. That'll remain to be seen. But I highly doubt they removed the ability to edit ratings, and they probably will still allow us to create players (which Madden also does).

[jerwoods]

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i will not know until i get the game but IF they let u have offline dystansy then it should be fair game

but in the main menu i ex no edits yes i think u can edit ratings but they will not let u make arch manning

which arch will be forever known about this if it was something to where 20% was missing then ok but its looking like arch will be the only guy missing which out of 12k guys its a big miss i blame archie and cooper for this the guy wouild been a 82-84 OVR num 1 recruit in 2023

[gr18]

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You can edit player names and ratings in Madden, because EA has a signed NIL contract with the NFLPA. I think not being able to edit names of real players is probably true, but I don't think they'll prevent us from editing ratings. Only exceptions might be the fake players created in place of opt outs. That'll remain to be seen. But I highly doubt they removed the ability to edit ratings, and they probably will still allow us to create players (which Madden also does).

Ratings maybe but I think they won't allow a pc release because they don't want the ability to create players that opt out.Otherwise if everyone could create Arch Manning in a couple minutes there would be no point in even asking players if they wanted to be included in the game

Creating players with certain names blocked is a possibility but I'm not really expecting that so we'll take what they give us.

[GoDucks1224]

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Ratings maybe but I think they won't allow a pc release because they don't want the ability to create players that opt out.Otherwise if everyone could create Arch Manning in a couple minutes there would be no point in even asking players if they wanted to be included in the game

Creating players with certain names blocked is a possibility but I'm not really expecting that so we'll take what they give us.

In Madden you can create players, but not all names can be used. There are names of current, and former players, that are blocked out. I imagine it'll be the same with this game. They'll block out specific name combinations. Matt Brown has said that we should expect to be able to edit players. So, that's my expectation.

[UtahUtes32]

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PFF grades all FBS players and teams, my guess is that they will be a big resource.

[Kyleimb]

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Using PFF for ratings would be pretty flawed unfortunately, though I get why they'll probably use that as a major resource with the sheer number of players that need to be rated. Context matters greatly with PFF. A player from the MAC may have a really solid season long grade, but if he played a similar number of snaps for against an SEC schedule, their grade would likely be far lower.

I guess as long as they factor that in and apply ratings using PFF on a bit of a sliding scale based on competition, it could work okay. I also just think PFF really misses the mark at times as well. I've seen far too many grades for players that are shockingly different than what I'd expect. I know they do the best they can but without understanding a players responsibility on each play, there will always be some inherent flaws.

Regardless how they do ratings, the thing I'd really like to see is a far greater amount of variance between power conference players, especially top 10 type programs, and the lower G5 teams. Or maybe moreso that the gameplay is actually able to reflect the difference in how a player rated in the 50s or 60s feels compared to guys 80s and 90s. Madden has never gotten this right imo and with college teams being so massively different in talent at times, I think this is really important for realism.

[Hooe]

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Posted this elsewhere in a thread that didn't gain much traction at the time which also asked about how EA Sports would author player ratings for this game:

For anyone that EA Sports has NIL rights to use, I would anticipate that their EASCFB ratings team would lean on Pro Football Focus quite a bit, as they have been known to do with Madden.

Probably even moreso now, as EA Sports only has so many public-facing "ratings adjusters" on their Madden staff, and I cannot imagine they hire a few dozen new people just to change numbers in a very large database. I have to assume there's going to be some level of automation to how the base roster is built based on downs played, counting statistics accumulated, and scouting services data. There are simply too many college football players to author to not do that.

tl;dr - I cannot possible imagine EA Sports is going to hand-author player ratings for 11,390 players (85 scholarship players × 134 FBS teams). That's roughly five times the count of players to evaluate than what the company has to do for Madden.

If EA Sports does hand-author player ratings, it likely will only be one time for the launch roster and I would assume any post-launch roster updates (to be clear, I don't know if EASCFB will receive these) will be automated.

[UtahUtes32]

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....A player from the MAC may have a really solid season long grade, but if he played a similar number of snaps for against an SEC schedule, their grade would likely be far lower....

....I know they do the best they can but without understanding a players responsibility on each play, there will always be some inherent flaws. ....

Agreed on your points but PFF is still WAY better than what we had for years: NOTHING.

[zbundy3]

Re: With Real College players in this game does anyone believe EA has hired a Ratings

Posted this elsewhere in a thread that didn't gain much traction at the time which also asked about how EA Sports would author player ratings for this game:


tl;dr - I cannot possible imagine EA Sports is going to hand-author player ratings for 11,390 players (85 scholarship players × 134 FBS teams). That's roughly five times the count of players to evaluate than what the company has to do for Madden.

If EA Sports does hand-author player ratings, it likely will only be one time for the launch roster and I would assume any post-launch roster updates (to be clear, I don't know if EASCFB will receive these) will be automated.

I'm still holding out hope that they teamed up with one of the recruiting services whether it is on3 or 247 to help with player ratings and throw their logo on on a recuiting rankings screen. I know it wont be perfect with the amount of players in the game but it could help separating out who the top couple hundred players are and at least get their attributes some what correct and then just have defaut attributes for the 3 stars players and below randomized unless they have unless they have already made signifigant impact on the field already.

[Playmakers]

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Agreed on your points but PFF is still WAY better than what we had for years: NOTHING.

The good thing is with PFF the rosters most likely won't have a ton of players rated 90 or higher like EA's older rosters.

EA had brainwashed so many people with their rosters that large group of gamers would get upset if their favorite players weren't rated 90 or higher ��

I hated seeing half the default rosters not having any player separation regarding ratings.

[TarHeelPhenom]

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I wonder if they will introduce any new player ratings or tendencies, or if they will just take what's already in Madden? Will they put player traits in the game? Hopefully they leave X-Factor out. And as I say every year, if we have the ability to edit player ratings/tendencies, I'd love for us to have a global editor. Trying to edit 130 + teams one player at a time is just...I'm tired just thinking about it.