2K has severely worsened the presentation quality in ERAS

[nitsujneal]

I noticed a slight dip in the colors / lighting / filter quality for 2K24…but this year it’s pretty severe

2K23

2K24

2K25


Yikes 😬

[vetmin]

Re: 2K has severely worsened the presentation quality in ERAS

It's one thing to judge lighting / reflections, which we can kinda see already, but it's hard to judge raw picture quality until the game is in our hands. All three of those screenshots look 10x worse than any 2K actually looks on anyone's monitor or TV.

[jeebs9]

Re: 2K has severely worsened the presentation quality in ERAS

It's one thing to judge lighting / reflections, which we can kinda see already, but it's hard to judge raw picture quality until the game is in our hands. All three of those screenshots look 10x worse than any 2K actually looks on anyone's monitor or TV.

We do this year in and yes out. Hang on all these releases of info. I get it's marketing. I'm waiting before I pass judgement lol

[AIRJ23]

Re: 2K has severely worsened the presentation quality in ERAS

We do this year in and yes out. Hang on all these releases of info. I get it's marketing. I'm waiting before I pass judgement lol

I don’t think that’s the case anymore. 2K24 was such a severe graphical downgrade which was apparent from the first pics. 2K25 seems the same. I guarantee it’ll look just as bad as it does in pics, just like 24 did.

I’m truly baffled by what’s going on with 2K graphically. Worse and worse yearly. Though I feel there’s no way it can get worse than 24 hopefully.

[jeebs9]

Re: 2K has severely worsened the presentation quality in ERAS

I don’t think that’s the case anymore. 2K24 was such a severe graphical downgrade which was apparent from the first pics. 2K25 seems the same. I guarantee it’ll look just as bad as it does in pics, just like 24 did.

I’m truly baffled by what’s going on with 2K graphically. Worse and worse yearly. Though I feel there’s no way it can get worse than 24 hopefully.

I'm not. It's filters. You can duck around with the settings yourself. All the photos in the OP look like a different filter. Go into 2K24 right now and pay around with the settings in a replay. You'll quickly realize that's all they probably changed....

[nitsujneal]

Re: 2K has severely worsened the presentation quality in ERAS

It's one thing to judge lighting / reflections, which we can kinda see already, but it's hard to judge raw picture quality until the game is in our hands. All three of those screenshots look 10x worse than any 2K actually looks on anyone's monitor or TV.

I get trying to be optimistic. But this is not hard to judge at all. What we see is what it is.

Of course a screenshot won’t look as good as what’s presented on the TV. But these screenshots are enough indication that the Eras presentation has been downgraded severely. Just from the colors and lighting alone. Look how dark the crowd is in 25 compared to 23 and 24. Look at the exaggerated shadows. That 25 shot looks far less like an 80’s broadcast than the other two.

[nitsujneal]

Re: 2K has severely worsened the presentation quality in ERAS

I don’t think that’s the case anymore. 2K24 was such a severe graphical downgrade which was apparent from the first pics. 2K25 seems the same. I guarantee it’ll look just as bad as it does in pics, just like 24 did.

I’m truly baffled by what’s going on with 2K graphically. Worse and worse yearly. Though I feel there’s no way it can get worse than 24 hopefully.

At least we getting reflections back lol

[scottyp180]

Re: 2K has severely worsened the presentation quality in ERAS

I get trying to be optimistic. But this is not hard to judge at all. What we see is what it is.

Of course a screenshot won’t look as good as what’s presented on the TV. But these screenshots are enough indication that the Eras presentation has been downgraded severely. Just from the colors and lighting alone. Look how dark the crowd is in 25 compared to 23 and 24. Look at the exaggerated shadows. That 25 shot looks far less like an 80’s broadcast than the other two.

I wish there was transparency and communication about things like this. Anyone can look at the games and notice visual downgrades. It's not about screenshots making the game look worse or not being representative of what we see on our TVs. 2k24 objectively looked worse than 2k23.

It'd be appreciated if the visual team addressed it. Are there reasons for the downgrades? Is it an artistic choice? Are they hitting limitations and issues? Can these areas be tuned with patches?

What's also frustrating is that they seem to value the feedback from certain fans more than others. The changes and adjustments made throughout the year based on community feedback caters to the My Park/Career crowd. Yet, when people are giving feedback about lighting, court reflections, filters, etc it's like there's no response.

I'd love for 2K to actually attempt to make adjustments in these areas through patches. How about a response like, "we heard concerns about the filters in Eras mode. We made adjustments based on community feedback. Let us know what you think." We've seen games transform through patches. There's no reason we should go a whole year without any acknowledgement of our concerns hoping that things will be better with the new release, only for nothing to be said or changed and the cycle repeated.

The lack of fixes is one thing, the lack of acknowledgement is even worse.

[jd@os]

Re: 2K has severely worsened the presentation quality in ERAS

I wish there was transparency and communication about things like this. Anyone can look at the games and notice visual downgrades. It's not about screenshots making the game look worse or not being representative of what we see on our TVs. 2k24 objectively looked worse than 2k23.

It'd be appreciated if the visual team addressed it. Are there reasons for the downgrades? Is it an artistic choice? Are they hitting limitations and issues? Can these areas be tuned with patches?

What's also frustrating is that they seem to value the feedback from certain fans more than others. The changes and adjustments made throughout the year based on community feedback caters to the My Park/Career crowd. Yet, when people are giving feedback about lighting, court reflections, filters, etc it's like there's no response.

I'd love for 2K to actually attempt to make adjustments in these areas through patches. How about a response like, "we heard concerns about the filters in Eras mode. We made adjustments based on community feedback. Let us know what you think." We've seen games transform through patches. There's no reason we should go a whole year without any acknowledgement of our concerns hoping that things will be better with the new release, only for nothing to be said or changed and the cycle repeated.

The lack of fixes is one thing, the lack of acknowledgement is even worse.

I rhetorically wonder how the game would look if 2K didn't create cities, parks, hoverboards, laundromats, whatever, and focused on arenas, courts, players, uniforms, etc.

I completely understand that other people care about those things, and that's who 2K is making money off of. But yeah, 2K24 looked really bad (on my PS5).

[Yallasama]

Re: 2K has severely worsened the presentation quality in ERAS

Okay, the only thing I can take from those screens is that it seems 2k25 is more in line with what it originally looked like and is shown best in the 2k23 screenshot. 2k24 easily looks the worst in terms of representing what games looked like in that era. That's it. Graphics cannot be judged from this.

[nitsujneal]

Re: 2K has severely worsened the presentation quality in ERAS

Okay, the only thing I can take from those screens is that it seems 2k25 is more in line with what it originally looked like and is shown best in the 2k23 screenshot. 2k24 easily looks the worst in terms of representing what games looked like in that era. That's it. Graphics cannot be judged from this.

The lengths y’all go to defend this LOL. Hilarious. There’s absolutely no graininess in the 25 shot. They just amplified the darkness and shadows. Looks nothing like an 80’s broadcast.

[nitsujneal]

Re: 2K has severely worsened the presentation quality in ERAS

I wish there was transparency and communication about things like this. Anyone can look at the games and notice visual downgrades. It's not about screenshots making the game look worse or not being representative of what we see on our TVs. 2k24 objectively looked worse than 2k23.

It'd be appreciated if the visual team addressed it. Are there reasons for the downgrades? Is it an artistic choice? Are they hitting limitations and issues? Can these areas be tuned with patches?

What's also frustrating is that they seem to value the feedback from certain fans more than others. The changes and adjustments made throughout the year based on community feedback caters to the My Park/Career crowd. Yet, when people are giving feedback about lighting, court reflections, filters, etc it's like there's no response.

I'd love for 2K to actually attempt to make adjustments in these areas through patches. How about a response like, "we heard concerns about the filters in Eras mode. We made adjustments based on community feedback. Let us know what you think." We've seen games transform through patches. There's no reason we should go a whole year without any acknowledgement of our concerns hoping that things will be better with the new release, only for nothing to be said or changed and the cycle repeated.

The lack of fixes is one thing, the lack of acknowledgement is even worse.

They leaving their mess for the PC community to clean up

[baconbits11]

Re: 2K has severely worsened the presentation quality in ERAS

They leaving their mess for the PC community to clean up

You can't clean things up on a console, and that's where me and many others would rather play our game.

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[bongo88]

Re: 2K has severely worsened the presentation quality in ERAS

Looks not like a downgrade. Just a change in lighting temperature https://www.samanthashannonphotograp...heat-Sheet.jpg

https://imgur.com/a/85JVvVI

Just an artisic change, perhaps. On old gen there was a file to change the kelvin temperature and other settings. We will see what is accessible in pc next gen.

[Yallasama]

Re: 2K has severely worsened the presentation quality in ERAS

The lengths y’all go to defend this LOL. Hilarious. There’s absolutely no graininess in the 25 shot. They just amplified the darkness and shadows. Looks nothing like an 80’s broadcast.

Look here duke, if there's ONE thing you cannot say about me is defending 2k. I've been brutally honest about my distaste for everything they've done last few years. But these screens tell me little aside from what I said. And you don't know anything, just like I don't, about the settings of the screencaps.