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  • gutsdabeast
    Rookie
    • Jul 2009
    • 173

    #1

    2nd Half Home Field Advantage

    Can someone explain to me why in the second half of a game that's not close, the home field advantage disappears? This allows the opponent to just shred your defense into pieces. It also works in your favor as well if you're down big. But in real life the crowd would still be excited & causing problems for the opponent. Is this something that can be changed in a patch?
  • dcgc28
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    • Apr 2019
    • 57

    #2
    Re: 2nd Half Home Field Advantage

    I think it's pretty realistic, if a team gets up big the energy in a stadium changes big time. The bigger issue to me is the constant heroic come backs you see from the CPU when the game should be over. But that's a discussion for another thread I guess.
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    • Feros Ferio 7
      Pro
      • Sep 2016
      • 631

      #3
      Re: 2nd Half Home Field Advantage

      Originally posted by dcgc28
      I think it's pretty realistic, if a team gets up big the energy in a stadium changes big time. The bigger issue to me is the constant heroic come backs you see from the CPU when the game should be over. But that's a discussion for another thread I guess.


      It had its own thread and been so throughly debunked it's not even funny.


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      • young22
        Banned
        • Feb 2017
        • 2083

        #4
        Re: 2nd Half Home Field Advantage

        Originally posted by Feros Ferio 7
        It had its own thread and been so throughly debunked it's not even funny.


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        Gotta love the NPC brigade “that’s been debunked” in response to anyone noticing this… how can you debunk something that this many people notice?


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        • BadAssHskr
          XSX
          • Jun 2003
          • 3541

          #5
          Re: 2nd Half Home Field Advantage

          is the screen supposed to be shaking once the stadium goes into full pulse mode? seems like in some videos you see it does, but don't really recall it happening in my dynasty games.
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          • gutsdabeast
            Rookie
            • Jul 2009
            • 173

            #6
            Re: 2nd Half Home Field Advantage

            Originally posted by dcgc28
            I think it's pretty realistic, if a team gets up big the energy in a stadium changes big time. The bigger issue to me is the constant heroic come backs you see from the CPU when the game should be over. But that's a discussion for another thread I guess.


            Georgia Tennessee / 4th Quarter / Georgia Up Big. Pretty Realistic Huh?

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            • bkrich83
              Has Been
              • Jul 2002
              • 71582

              #7
              Re: 2nd Half Home Field Advantage

              Originally posted by BadAssHskr
              is the screen supposed to be shaking once the stadium goes into full pulse mode? seems like in some videos you see it does, but don't really recall it happening in my dynasty games.


              I think so. I turned that stuff off. It give me motion sickness.


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              • Hooe
                Hall Of Fame
                • Aug 2002
                • 21555

                #8
                2nd Half Home Field Advantage

                Originally posted by gutsdabeast
                This allows the opponent to just shred your defense into pieces. It also works in your favor as well if you're down big.
                This has not been my experience with home field advantage at all. I have maintained leads with Virginia — a team with no consistent front four pass rush at the Power 4 level — even as the CPU has attempted to mount comebacks, and Clemson’s crowd letting up certainly didn’t ease me back into a game I lost 52 to 7.

                You are probably letting up on the gas with your playcalling because you hold a big lead. The CPU will absolutely pick up on your playcalling tendencies and call beaters if you keep calling the same coverages over and over.

                For example: I’ve had to come up with some additional trips checks because by midseason the CPU keyed into the fact that I was just spamming Cover 4 Palms (which plays Stubbie against 3x1) whenever it broke the huddle in trips. In response to my predictability, the CPU started spamming concepts which get #3 isolated on a corner route against my playside safety, who is not the best in man coverage.

                No one in this community wants to be told “skill issue”, and I understand it’s hard to pick up on your own patterns and tendencies. However, given that we know the CPU can learn and adapt now, examining your own situational playcalling tendencies if the CPU routinely closes leads on you in the second half is going to be the starting point for improving your game going forward.

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                • gutsdabeast
                  Rookie
                  • Jul 2009
                  • 173

                  #9
                  Re: 2nd Half Home Field Advantage

                  Originally posted by Hooe
                  This has not been my experience with home field advantage at all. I have maintained leads with Virginia — a team with no consistent front four pass rush at the Power 4 level — even as the CPU has attempted to mount comebacks, and Clemson’s crowd letting up certainly didn’t ease me back into a game I lost 52 to 7.

                  You are probably letting up on the gas with your playcalling because you hold a big lead. The CPU will absolutely pick up on your playcalling tendencies and call beaters if you keep calling the same coverages over and over.

                  For example: I’ve had to come up with some additional trips checks because by midseason the CPU keyed into the fact that I was just spamming Cover 4 Palms (which plays Stubbie against 3x1) whenever it broke the huddle in trips. In response to my predictability, the CPU started spamming concepts which get #3 isolated on a corner route against my playside safety, who is not the best in man coverage.

                  No one in this community wants to be told “skill issue”, and I understand it’s hard to pick up on your own patterns and tendencies. However, given that we know the CPU can learn and adapt now, examining your own situational playcalling tendencies if the CPU routinely closes leads on you in the second half is going to be the starting point for improving your game going forward.
                  How about we ignore my performance comment? In the second half the home field advantage disappears if the score is disproportionate. This is not a realistic state of events in real college football games.

                  Especially rivalry games. Please look at the YouTube clip of the above. I've recreated that scenario in NCAA 2024 & the crowd was silent as church mice in Athens. That meter should probably be shaking more at the end of the 4th quarter.

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                  • Hooe
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Aug 2002
                    • 21555

                    #10
                    Re: 2nd Half Home Field Advantage

                    Originally posted by gutsdabeast
                    How about we ignore my performance comment? In the second half the home field advantage disappears if the score is disproportionate. This is not a realistic state of events in real college football games.

                    Especially rivalry games. Please look at the YouTube clip of the above. I've recreated that scenario in NCAA 2024 & the crowd was silent as church mice in Athens. That meter should probably be shaking more at the end of the 4th quarter.
                    Ignoring your performance comment — I've attended enough ACC football and men's basketball games in person to know firsthand that the crowd does not maintain its peak energy the entire game, especially when one team has extended a significant lead. Believe it or not, college football isn't just the SEC.

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                    • bDoddleS
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                      • Jul 2024
                      • 211

                      #11
                      Re: 2nd Half Home Field Advantage

                      Not sure the "comeback AI" talk, I've always had a better 2nd half than 1st half in my last 2 seasons of my UNC dynasty.

                      It "COULD" have something to do with me having the "Start 4th quarter hot" for most of my guys, but normally 2nd halves are where I get in my groove.
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                      • gutsdabeast
                        Rookie
                        • Jul 2009
                        • 173

                        #12
                        Re: 2nd Half Home Field Advantage

                        Originally posted by Hooe
                        Ignoring your performance comment — I've attended enough ACC football and men's basketball games in person to know firsthand that the crowd does not maintain its peak energy the entire game, especially when one team has extended a significant lead. Believe it or not, college football isn't just the SEC.


                        And not all of college football is the ACC. Here's the Big Ten.

                        Michigan v Michigan State / 4th Quarter Michigan up 3 scores. Big House rocking. Maybe not as rocking as the 1st quarter but it's still ear splitting loud.



                        Florida State vs Clemson 3rd Quarter up 5 scores. Timestamped

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                        • TarHeelPhenom
                          All Star
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 7123

                          #13
                          Re: 2nd Half Home Field Advantage

                          Originally posted by Hooe
                          Ignoring your performance comment — I've attended enough ACC football and men's basketball games in person to know firsthand that the crowd does not maintain its peak energy the entire game, especially when one team has extended a significant lead. Believe it or not, college football isn't just the SEC.
                          As have I, and I second this comment. As a matter of fact, should UNC be up big going into the 4th quarter, some of our crowd will be headed for the parking lot to try and beat traffic!
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                          • Hooe
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Aug 2002
                            • 21555

                            #14
                            Re: 2nd Half Home Field Advantage

                            Originally posted by gutsdabeast
                            And not all of college football is the ACC.
                            Couldn't agree more.

                            Crowds outside the Power 4 typically aren't rocking for a full sixty minutes, either.
                            Last edited by Hooe; 08-20-2024, 12:25 PM.

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                            • Hooe
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Aug 2002
                              • 21555

                              #15
                              Re: 2nd Half Home Field Advantage

                              Originally posted by TarHeelPhenom
                              As have I, and I second this comment. As a matter of fact, should UNC be up big going into the 4th quarter, some of our crowd will be headed for the parking lot to try and beat traffic!
                              Recently, many rivals in the ACC have taken to derisively referring to the Virginia Cavaliers' Scott Stadium as a library. Take that as you will.

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