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USF11 08-09-2005 04:32 PM

Thank God there is another Madden coming out this year!
 
This years madden is nearly unplayable, NCAA 2006 is light years ahead of madden in terms of gameplay. How many years in a row can madden go without any crowd atomsphere to speak of? The Speed of the game feels off, and the pre snap controls have gotten to a point where theres no way to make all your adjustments b4 your oppent snaps the ball. I love how NCAA put all the moves on the right stick, yet madden only added the back juke and truck stick. The right stick is also useless when playing as a d-lineman. On a side note I do enjoy the cone of vision, but I wish the velocity of passes was higher.

Most importantly Madden has seen very very minimal changes which leads me to believe one thing EA put a majority of their resources behind Madden 360.

I can't wait till november and I have NCAA to hold me over till then while my copy of Madden 2006 begins to collect dust.

Drag66 08-09-2005 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by USF11
This years madden is nearly unplayable, NCAA 2006 is light years ahead of madden in terms of gameplay. How many years in a row can madden go without any crowd atomsphere to speak of? The Speed of the game feels off, and the pre snap controls have gotten to a point where theres no way to make all your adjustments b4 your oppent snaps the ball. I love how NCAA put all the moves on the right stick, yet madden only added the back juke and truck stick. The right stick is also useless when playing as a d-lineman. On a side note I do enjoy the cone of vision, but I wish the velocity of passes was higher.

Most importantly Madden has seen very very minimal changes which leads me to believe one thing EA put a majority of their resources behind Madden 360.

I can't wait till november and I have NCAA to hold me over till then while my copy of Madden 2006 begins to collect dust.

Have fun with NCAA (it is a good game as well). I wish Madden implemeted the juke stick a la NCAA, but I think both NCAA and Madden are solid this year. I personally love the pre snap adjustments, the vision cone, and the game speed is perfect in my opinion. As for velocity of passes, I have learned that pushing up on the stick slows the passes down.

SoMiss2000 08-09-2005 04:40 PM

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How can a game that has been out for less than 24 hours be deemed unplayable?

USF11 08-09-2005 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by SoMiss2000
How can a game that has been out for less than 24 hours be deemed unplayable?

Real Easily........................................

SoMiss2000 08-09-2005 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by USF11
Real Easily........................................

THAT'S THE NUMBER 1 ANSWER!

Havok410 08-09-2005 04:49 PM

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Sounds like someone is frustrated by the vision/precision....














P.S. Ever heard of Sliders? And why is the right stick so important to you?

hitmanwa 08-09-2005 04:50 PM

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It's a matter of opinion. Many of us like it!

RoyalBoyle78 08-09-2005 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by USF11
Real Easily........................................

yeah when you probably never even have the game it's easy to say that......Go back to sleep my freind :zzz:

USF11 08-09-2005 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Havok410
Sounds like someone is frustrated by the vision/precision....

P.S. Ever heard of Sliders? And why is the right stick so important to you?

I disagree take NCAA 2006 add Madden player models and the QB vision and you got yourself a killer game. Madden just feels unpolished the year, you guys act like I kicked your dog by saying that. Don't take things so personal.

p2xgamers 08-09-2005 04:56 PM

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Most importantly Madden has seen very very minimal changes which leads me to believe one thing EA put a majority of their resources behind Madden 360.
Sorry to sound rude, but DUH! Seriously, Madden 360 will be the first game for the new generation and they are going to want to have the first one be great.

Also there may not be much new but much of it improves the game. (passing cone, much improved running game, precision passing, etc.)

hitmanwa 08-09-2005 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by p2xgamers
Sorry to sound rude, but DUH! Seriously, Madden 360 will be the first game for the new generation and they are going to want to have the first one be great.

Also there may not be much new but much of it improves the game. (passing cone, much improved running game, precision passing, etc.)

QFE!

USF11 08-09-2005 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by p2xgamers
Sorry to sound rude, but DUH! Seriously, Madden 360 will be the first game for the new generation and they are going to want to have the first one be great.

Also there may not be much new but much of it improves the game. (passing cone, much improved running game, precision passing, etc.)

I did think that the way the O-Line pulls and pancakes is wonderful.

p2xgamers 08-09-2005 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by hitmanwa
QFE!

? :y2:

USF11 08-09-2005 05:01 PM

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The lack of significant improvements to Madden have raised my expectations for Madden 360 that much more.

p2xgamers 08-09-2005 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by USF11
I did think that the way the O-Line pulls and pancakes is wonderful.

Okay sorry to sound confused (trust me I am not a madden fanboy, I barely gave 05 a chance) but you gave props to the o-line and the new passing, then how is the game unplayable?

hitmanwa 08-09-2005 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by p2xgamers
? :y2:

Quoted for emphasis!!!

USF11 08-09-2005 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by p2xgamers
Okay sorry to sound confused (trust me I am not a madden fanboy, I barely gave 05 a chance) but you gave props to the o-line and the new passing, then how is the game unplayable?

2 small features don't make an enitre game. Compared to NCAA 06, madden isnt worth playing.

p2xgamers 08-09-2005 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by hitmanwa
Quoted for emphasis!!!

Oh okay, never heard that abreviation used before.

Quote:

2 small feature don't make an enitre game. Compared to NCAA 06, madden isnt worth playing.
My point is you said it was unplayable, yet you liked a few features in the game. What else don't you like in Madden?

Sark 08-09-2005 05:09 PM

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EA Sports already has $150 of your hard earned bucks, on the strength of "things will be better next time."

I mean sure EA has promised change, but who's to say they'll deliver on 360 the first time around?

Just a thought.

p2xgamers 08-09-2005 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Sark
EA Sports already has $150 of your hard earned bucks, on the strength of "things will be better next time."

I mean sure EA has promised change, but who's to say they'll deliver on 360 the first time around?

Just a thought.

Where do you get $150 from? NCAA 06, Madden 06 and Madden 360? (though for some of us, like me, we didn't buy madden and "may" buy madden 06 and 360) If I have a 360 when Madden comes out I will rent it like I'm doing with 06.

Freelance 08-09-2005 05:12 PM

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History shows that first-time games on new systems tend to be pretty unpolished.

NFL2K was a joke. Madden was just as bad. The first Madden on PS1 was horrible.

Maybe this'll be different, but your better gameplay is probably on the systems EA already knows real well.

DawgcityClev 08-09-2005 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Erod
History shows that first-time games on new systems tend to be pretty unpolished.

NFL2K was a joke. Madden was just as bad. The first Madden on PS1 was horrible.

Maybe this'll be different, but your better gameplay is probably on the systems EA already knows real well.


We're talking about EA here. I gurantee that Madden on the 360 will be stale and boring. Just a bunch of eye candy for the new XBox owners. Frankly, if I even bother with an XBox 360, I'm looking forward to other games that I've seen for it. Mainly basketball. But I'm not sure I'll buy one since I'm getting the PS3.

p2xgamers 08-09-2005 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Erod
History shows that first-time games on new systems tend to be pretty unpolished.

NFL2K was a joke. Madden was just as bad. The first Madden on PS1 was horrible.

Maybe this'll be different, but your better gameplay is probably on the systems EA already knows real well.

I suppose your right but I think there will be some revolutionary (heh) features and the animations will more than likely be better than we have ever seen before, but the new engine will probably be rusty at first.

USCTrojan83 08-09-2005 05:21 PM

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Do any of the EA or even 2K Bashers ever think that if EVERYTHING you wanted to be done/fixed in the game was done in one year that there would be nothing left to accomplish in the game. You would then proceed to purchase roster updates every year from EA for $50 a pop. Whether you think you're doing that right now or not is a matter of opinion. EA would hit the wall with madden and boom its gone because sales diminish and nobody is satisfied. But the improved precision passing, vision cone, and truck stick are some major additions.

It seems all you guys do is moan and complain if you think Madden blows then fine. It blows to you. Rent the game before you throw $50 + tax on a game that you complain about every year. Take a step back 5 years when PS2/XBOX werent around and look at the developments. Too many people on these threads are soooo needy. Take the bottle out of your mouth and grow up.

Sorry for the explosion but the game has been out for 14 hours!!! :drink::drink::drink::drink::drink::drink::drink:: drink::drink::drink::drink::drink::drink::drink::d rink::drink::drink::drink::drink::drink:

USF11 08-09-2005 05:22 PM

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Madden (+)'s

- Cone of Vision (Keeps it Real)
- Run Blocking (O-Line agressively seek out defenders)
- Accelerated Clock (Allows for realistic stats during games)
- Size of O & D playbooks & Variety of Formations

Madden (-)'s

- Controls are Bad (#1 rule of all EA Games is great control)
- Pre Snap adjustments (It's a giant cluster%&%*)
- Passing Velocity(Seems slow)
- Game speed (Lacks the dynamic feel of NCAA)
- Stadium Atmoshpere (Super Bowl and Preseason Games feel the same)
- Player Attributes dont change in game.( Been Sacked 10 times? doesnt matter Arm Str and Acc stay the same.)


The lack of atmosphere combined with sup par EA controls and a lack of a dynamic feeling of speed is a absolute game killer for me!

Madden 2001 for PS2 was light years ahead of anything else at the time how can anyone bash that game. Madden 360 should make the same leap.

CubFan78 08-09-2005 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by p2xgamers
Sorry to sound rude, but DUH! Seriously, Madden 360 will be the first game for the new generation and they are going to want to have the first one be great.

Also there may not be much new but much of it improves the game. (passing cone, much improved running game, precision passing, etc.)

The first one be great???? The first "new" Madden for PS2 was a real stinker. I bought the X-Box version even though I am getting a 360 just cuz I always fear first titles on new consoles because they never live up to the polish of the previous version. It all depends on how different coding for xbox360 will be. If its very similar then it might be great, if now, stinksville

We'll see, I will definitely rent it in between playing other 360 games.

Havok410 08-09-2005 05:35 PM

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Seriously, HOW IS NCAA 2006 SOOO much better then Madden? Madden has 90 % of the features in Ncaa and about 20 more that Ncaa doesn't have. Not to mention it's basically the same engine except that Madden's is 3 years ahead and more polished. Seems to me that you either played the for one hour or never played it at all. Im not saying Madden06 is perfect but it's easily better then Ncaa '06 (and i thought Ncaa was a pretty good game) and a damn good game with alot of improvements. List some "MAJOR" improvements that you want to see in "Madden" USF. Im guessing that you won't be able to come up with ANY "major improvements". There are plenty of new stuff in Madden 06. Just seems like some people have a vendetta against Madden.

Anaxamander 08-09-2005 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by USCTrojan83
:drink::drink::drink::drink::drink::drink::drink:: drink::drink::drink::drink::drink::drink::drink::d rink::drink::drink::drink::drink::drink:

Please, please tell me you didn't type all of those. 'Cause I'm thinking that you typed all of those...

USCTrojan83 08-09-2005 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Anaxamander
Please, please tell me you didn't type all of those. 'Cause I'm thinking that you typed all of those...

No copy and pasted :drink: like 10 times...I was just frustrated and started banging the keyboard:waytogo:

jerry0211 08-09-2005 05:41 PM

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What does USF11 stand for? Do you go to South Florida?

Havok410 08-09-2005 05:42 PM

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Madden (-)'s

1. Controls are Bad (#1 rule of all EA Games is great control)
2. Pre Snap adjustments (It's a giant cluster%&%*)
3. Passing Velocity(Seems slow)
4. Game speed (Lacks the dynamic feel of NCAA)
5. Stadium Atmoshpere (Super Bowl and Preseason Games feel the same)
6. Player Attributes dont change in game.( Been Sacked 10 times? doesnt matter Arm Str and Acc stay the same.)



1. The controls aren't even close to being bad. Just seems to me that you are confused and overwhelmed by all the different things you can do with the controller. No t too mention you only had the game for 1 DAY!!!!!! It takes time to get used to controls.

2. So you would rather want NO ADJUSTMENTS PRESNAP? That improves the game greatly! You're sounding like a casual game after that dumb**s statement.

3. LOL!!!! Are you kidding me?

4. Wow...the speed is A TAD bit slower and now its bad? Give me a break...

5. Why do you care so much about this? It's really not that big of a deal. If you want real atmosphere go to a REAL GAME!

6. Once again....are YOU KIDDING ME? This is your idea of a "flaw"?



I think that you either have a huge vendetta against EA, played the game for 1 hour, never played the game, or are plain and simple....A CASUAL madden gamer. The minuses are complete jokes.

Freelance 08-09-2005 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DawgcityClev
We're talking about EA here. I gurantee that Madden on the 360 will be stale and boring. Just a bunch of eye candy for the new XBox owners. Frankly, if I even bother with an XBox 360, I'm looking forward to other games that I've seen for it. Mainly basketball. But I'm not sure I'll buy one since I'm getting the PS3.

Let me save you the trouble. No one's paying attention to you. Your agenda is plain as day.

USF11 08-09-2005 05:57 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Havok410
Madden (-)'s

1. Controls are Bad (#1 rule of all EA Games is great control)
2. Pre Snap adjustments (It's a giant cluster%&%*)
3. Passing Velocity(Seems slow)
4. Game speed (Lacks the dynamic feel of NCAA)
5. Stadium Atmoshpere (Super Bowl and Preseason Games feel the same)
6. Player Attributes dont change in game.( Been Sacked 10 times? doesnt matter Arm Str and Acc stay the same.)



1. The controls aren't even close to being bad. Just seems to me that you are confused and overwhelmed by all the different things you can do with the controller. No t too mention you only had the game for 1 DAY!!!!!! It takes time to get used to controls.

2. So you would rather want NO ADJUSTMENTS PRESNAP? That improves the game greatly! You're sounding like a casual game after that dumb**s statement.

3. LOL!!!! Are you kidding me?

4. Wow...the speed is A TAD bit slower and now its bad? Give me a break...

5. Why do you care so much about this? It's really not that big of a deal. If you want real atmosphere go to a REAL GAME!

6. Once again....are YOU KIDDING ME? This is your idea of a "flaw"?



I think that you either have a huge vendetta against EA, played the game for 1 hour, never played the game, or are plain and simple....A CASUAL madden gamer. The minuses are complete jokes.

I guess some people are happy with medicore gameplay from their madden.
Have you played NCAA 2006? Can you honestly say after playing NCAA 2006 that madden plays better?
I've played this years madden and its the most dissapointed I have been with a madden game since 2002. I have played at least 200 games of every madden game and ncaa game ever made for consoles except for Madden 3DO and Madden 2002.I played 2 years of Div II quarterback in college so I think I know a little something about football.

So now anyone who attacks this game is a casual gamer because serious madden players now have the perfect game. Give Me A Break! This year game is not good and the whole point of this thread. Thank God there is another Madden coming out this year!

Beantown 08-09-2005 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Erod
Let me save you the trouble. No one's paying attention to you. Your agenda is plain as day.

Saved me a response to that post...

As far as this game, I honestly can say I feel it's the best Madden yet. The game speed is slowed down to aid in the Passing Cone and is implemented to perfection. The cone itself is very fun, although I'm still not used to it. Run blocking is a lot better, and although there is still cluster, holes open up and you have a window to get through them like IRL. What else...oh yeah, there's finally injury sliders that actually work(with just a few clicks up I saw 5 players go down with various lengths in the first half of a game, very nice to see)...I don't know, it's the best Madden IMO.

Playmakers 08-09-2005 05:58 PM

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Man if you guy's don't like the game trade it in. Isn't there enough of these threads already?

I can't understand why guy's who already have it out for the game would still go ahead and buy it just to get their own agenda across I guess. Just let it rest and quit wanting everyone to feel the same way you guy's feel. I'm loving the game and once I put in some extra work in it overall I'm sure it will play even better for me personally. But I'm not going to create a thread hoping to convince guy's to buy or not to buy the game.

I must also note that the game has only been out 1 day so why rush to conclusions. It's a video game guy's why do we spend some much time looking for flaws......when we already know they are going to exist.

MVPlaya 08-09-2005 06:04 PM

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Damn, every single year...same thing happens over and over.

Damn someone needs to make a sticky for XBOX 360 news...and HOW IT IS A BRAND NEW GAME WITH A NEW ENGINE.

GHill 08-09-2005 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by MVPlaya
This years madden is nearly unplayable

That's just pathetic. It's 17 hours old. It's impossible to deem the game unplayable when you haven't even learned 2/3 of the things you can do.

Furq 08-09-2005 06:30 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Havok410
Madden (-)'s

1. Controls are Bad (#1 rule of all EA Games is great control)
2. Pre Snap adjustments (It's a giant cluster%&%*)
3. Passing Velocity(Seems slow)
4. Game speed (Lacks the dynamic feel of NCAA)
5. Stadium Atmoshpere (Super Bowl and Preseason Games feel the same)
6. Player Attributes dont change in game.( Been Sacked 10 times? doesnt matter Arm Str and Acc stay the same.)



1. The controls aren't even close to being bad. Just seems to me that you are confused and overwhelmed by all the different things you can do with the controller. No t too mention you only had the game for 1 DAY!!!!!! It takes time to get used to controls.

2. So you would rather want NO ADJUSTMENTS PRESNAP? That improves the game greatly! You're sounding like a casual game after that dumb**s statement.

3. LOL!!!! Are you kidding me?

4. Wow...the speed is A TAD bit slower and now its bad? Give me a break...

5. Why do you care so much about this? It's really not that big of a deal. If you want real atmosphere go to a REAL GAME!

6. Once again....are YOU KIDDING ME? This is your idea of a "flaw"?



I think that you either have a huge vendetta against EA, played the game for 1 hour, never played the game, or are plain and simple....A CASUAL madden gamer. The minuses are complete jokes.

do you work for EA?

kaydigi 08-09-2005 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by SoMiss2000
How can a game that has been out for less than 24 hours be deemed unplayable?

See NBA 2K5 thread last september, the CPU didn't call timeouts during games. It took 6 weeks for a patch to come out.

NEW_ORLEANS 08-09-2005 06:51 PM

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I been coming here for like 3 years now and the same things every year and I like it these boards are so entertaining.


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