REAL Backstage Fights Between Wrestlers....An Official List....
 

Eddy Guerrero vs. Road Warrior Hawk, 199?

Bret Hart vs. Shawn Michaels, 1997

Bret Hart vs. Vince McMahon in Montreal, 1997

Nasty Boys vs. Ken Shamrock

Scott Steiner vs. Diamond Dallas Page, 2001

Andre the Giant vs. Ernie Holmes, 1986

Andre the Giant vs. Akira Maeda, 1985

Lex Luger vs. Bruiser Brody, 1987

Brian Pillman vs. Sid Vicious, 1991

Arn Anderson vs. Sid Vicious, 1993

Dynamite Kid vs. Davey Boy Smith, 1994

New Jack vs. Pitbull

Buff Bagwell vs. Shane "Hurricane" Helms, 2001

Buff Bagwell told Helm's he would never be a superstar because of his size and a few more words were said. Bagwell slapped Helms, but then Helms threw a frozen bottle of water at Bagwell, and punched him in the back of the head a few times, causing Bagwell's head to split open. This incident led to Bagwell's last moment on TV, where Bradshaw powerbombed him twice. After the first, Bagwell had said his neck was broken. Bradshaw called him a ***** and powerbombed him a second time. It was during a moment when all the WWF guys ran in on some of the WCW guys, and it was pretty well known that it was Bagwell's last WWF TV appearance. WINNER: Can Bagwell ever be a winner? He does win at being a loser. I actually went to college with a guy who went to Bagwell's high school. It was Sprayberry High, which isn't a name you forget, and Ventura made fun of that name like crazy on WCW commentary at the time. (thanks to Doug Adams, Trevor, & Chris)



New Jack vs. Junkyard Dog

Tony Atlas vs. Paul Orndorff

Paul Orndorff vs. Big Van Vader

Shawn Michaels vs. Marty Janetty

Eric Bischoff vs. Juventud Guerrera, 2002

Buddy Rogers vs. Some Loudmouth at a Restaurant

William Regal vs. Van Hammer

Rickson Gracie vs. Yoji Anjoh

Brock Lesnar vs. Kurt Angle, 2001

Riki Choshu vs. Akira Maeda, 1987

HHH vs. Bill Goldberg, 1999 or 2000































Eddie Guerrero aggravated an injury while in a tag match and Charlie unknowing kept working that area which lead to a confrontation after the match in which Guerrero was reported to have thrown the first punch and Haas fought back and it was soon broken up. (thanks to Nathan) Rene Dupree vs. Bob Holly, 2004


During a house show hardcore tag match Holly gave some stiff shots to Dupree with a chair and ended up in confrontation. Dupree got a parking ticket using Holly's rental car in a different state and then made Holly fly out to deal with it. Holly, *** that he is, took it out on Dupree in the ring. Dupree bolted out of the ring and there was more that took place backstage. Holly was fined, but should've been fired. Thanks to Dupree's lack of popularity, Holly got the sentiment and kept his job. (thanks to Dave "The Beast" McGuckiin)
Ric Flair vs. Mick Foley, 2004 On Raw, it was reported that Ric Flair and Mick Foley had a bit of a punch up backstage. Flair, who made some pretty nasty remarks about Foley in his autobiography and called him a "stuntman," offered a handshake to Foley when he arrived. Foley declined and made a snide remark about Flair's book. Flair took exception to this and walloped Foley. Officials intervened before it escalated. Some believe this may have been a work, possibly to begin the internet speculation before a WrestleMania 21 match, but time will tell. Winner: Probably the WWE, who now have another good reason to make a landmark match between these two at Mania (thanks to Dave "The Beast" McGuckin)


The Sandman vs. Stevie Shaker 'Babymaker', 2003

Back in December '03, Sandman and Perry Saturn traveled to Ireland to wrestle for WIN in Dublin. They were the only 'names' on the card so thought they could take it easy and still steal the show. However, a hardcore match between Stevie Shaker and Dunkan Disorderly tore the house down and killed the crowd for the rest of the show. Apparently when the 'Babymaker' went backstage after his match the Perry ignored him and The Sandman made a sarcastic comment, obviously pissed at the 2 'card fillers' stealing their thunder. Stevie just walked on by and went to the bar to watch the rest of the show. Back at the hotel all the guys were in the bar and Sandman had a few drinks and livened up enough for Stevie and Dunkan to invite him to Belfast to party the next day. Whilst out in a pub in Belfast, Sandman got totally wasted and was a mess. Afterwards, when they were trying to get a taxi Sandman bumped into Stevie and apparently told him he was a **** worker and would never draw outside of Ireland. Stevie punched him and knocked him out cold before casually going to get a subway. When Sandman came round he apologized and the 2 guys made up. (thanks to Arthur) Chavo Guerrero vs. Big Show, 2004
After a SmackDown taping, Chavo started yelling at Show and started a fight with him. Show pie-faced him to try to diffuse the situation. Chavo went after him again and Show shoved him hard into a group of wrestlers, and the noise from the commotion caused everyone to step in and break it up. What in the Hell was Chavo thinking?? (thanks to the Wrestling Observer Newsletter)

2 Cold Scorpio vs. Road Warrior Hawk
Scorpio talks about this on his ROH shoot interview. He and Hawk were part of the WCW event called Kollision in Korea, held in Pyongyang, North Korea. Scorpio and the rest of the guys were on the bus, and Hawk comes on the bus and makes a comment about how Ric Flair was taking a limo instead. Scorpio shouted out, "F&$&@ that *****, let him ride by himself!" Hawk said "What did you say?" Scorpio repeated himself. Hawk then used the dreaded N word, and it was on. They were wrestling on the floor and Hawk was swinging, but never connected, even when people were holding Scorpio down. Once they got up, Scorpio threw a thrust kick and connected, but it was broken up. Over the next few days, they traded glances and promised to beat each other senseless once they got back to Tokyo. Scorpio dropped chopsticks at dinner on purpose, picked them up, and stuffed them in his coat pocket. Back in the hotel room, he sharpened them up, just in case Hawk tried something. They met again face to face, said they'd save it for Tokyo, and then Hawk turned his back. When he turned back around, he punched Scorpio out of nowhere. Scorpio thought, "Is that all you got? My mother hits harder than that!" Cooler heads prevailed, though, and they worked out their differences before leaving North Korea. The Steiners and Scott Norton were on Scorpio's side, but Benoit was friends with both and tried to soothe things over.
Vader vs. Shamrock




Vader and Shamrock got into a backstage fight when Vader insulted Shamrock and told him his MMA stuff was BS. Shamrock beat the snot out of Vader and stuck his head in the toilet. (thanks to Rob Park) Undertaker vs. Shawn Michaels, 1998
Austin, McMahon, Undertaker and Michaels were in a meeting with other officials planning the WWE's strategy going forward. Apparently, leading up to WMXIV, the idea was for HBK to drop the strap to Austin, which HBK initially rejected. At this point Undertaker began to tape his fists methodically. The Deadman told HBK that it was advisable that he, HBK, change his mind about doing the job by the time that he, Undertaker, finished taping his fists or he will MAKE HBK change his mind the hard way. WINNER: WWE and WWE fans because Austin went on to become one of the biggest stars in wrestling history during the Attitude era. (thanks to Geoffrey Joseph)
4 Horsemen vs. Random Fans
Some years back, I would say circa 1987, the 4 Horsemen were at a house show and some fans, who were obviously marks for the babyfaces, thought it wise to jump into the ring to save Barry Windham from the usual Horsemen beatdown. Arn and Tully delivered what had to be some of the wickedest knee drops I have ever seen on the idiots when they entered the ring. (thanks to Geoffrey Joseph)
Randy Savage vs. Random Fans
I once saw Randy Savage deliver vicious right hand punches to a couple of WCW fans who were drunk enough to interfere in a steel cage match. (thanks to Geoffrey Joseph)


CM Punk vs. Teddy Hart (NWA TNA)

The heat started on ROH show which Hart no selling and showing off to the crowd. He hit unplanned spot on Special K from top of the cage. This led Carnage Crew to beat up Hart legit, hoping he'd sell. After the team left, Hart continue to show off more, doing moonsaults into standing position. He was fired and his bags got tossed outside, and thus begun the war of words between him and Punk. Punk tore into him for being disrespectful while Hart goes off claiming Punk was on drugs and drinking despite being straight-edge. They still manage to stay paths away from each other until both were working for TNA. It was at a restaurant (ironically called White Trash Cafe), both bump into each other and escalated into a verbal and physical fight which Sabu broke up. Hart was unable to wrestle in the America's X Cup, and Punk was eventually released. Shame too, because both Punk and Hart are very good workers. Hart was also released later while his Canadian teammate Petey Williams went on to win the X Division title. (thanks to Tim and Raymond Wong)
The Wifebeater vs. Johnny Kashmere


This fight happened over some things Kashmere said. Kashmere was saying some anti-CZW things on the internet. John Zandig (the man who runs the show at CZW) heard about this and sent the Wifebeater, a wrestler known for chopping up opponents with a weed-whacker, to Kashmere's house. I don't know the rest of the details of this fight, but I heard that Wifebeater beat Kashmere up. WINNER: Ironically enough, Wifebeater. And the neighbors who saw this. How do guys get away with assault like this? (thanks to Tim)




Ric Flair vs.The Nasty Boys


Got this from Ric Flair's book. At the China Club in Manhattan, The Nasty Boys were bothering Flair's friend Robby Kanoff, who was drunk. The Nasty's took Kanoff's sunglasses and stomped on them, and then tore his suit. Flair got pissed about it, and confronted Knobbs about it. Flair told him to leave Kanoff alone but Knobbs responded with a bad look on his face. Flair slapped Knobbs silly, but he tried to fight back but Flair had it under control. Saggs then jumped across the bar and hit Flair in the eye. Saggs and Flair started fighting but it was broken up and Flair was tossed out of the bar. The damages were put on Flair's credit card. Like it says in Flair's book, What's wrong with this picture? The Nasty Boys stay in, but Ric Flair goes out? WINNER: The Nasty Boys. (Another unfair fight) (thanks to Tim)



Hulk Hogan vs. Harley Race


From Race's book. As Race (then NWA) stormed the backstage area at a WWF show at the Municipal Auditorium, the Funk brothers looked stunned. Hogan was staring at the Funks and could see their faces. Before he could turn round, Race slapped him in the ribs. Hogan fell backwards into a chair. Sensing a difficult situation, Hulk joked, "Harley, I thought the first time I saw you in Kansas City you'd have a great big gun." Hogan should be advised not to play 'call my bluff' with Harley Race, as Race shot back with, "I don't have a great big one..." before pulling out a .380-caliber handgun. (thanks to Brian Cooper at BigVanVader.com)


Booker T vs. Craig Titus

When WWE comes to Vegas, they always work out at the local Gold's Gym. When Smackdown was in town last, Booker T, Chavo Sr. and Orlando Jordan came in together to work out. About 25 minutes into their workout, a professional bodybuilder named Craig Titus got into a argument with Booker T about Booker not putting away his weights after he was done with them. Titus is a celebrity trainer who was featured on the"Remaking of Vince Neil" episode that aired on VH1. He has been in prison for charges of steroid use. Orlando Jordan and Chavo Sr. were in between the two monsters while they were screaming at one another when Craig Titus lunged over Jordan and Chavo Sr. and caught Booker with a weak punch. That’s when Orlando Jordan turned around a threw a right hook at Craig Titus and dropped him to the floor. Chavo Sr. then grabbed Jordan in a bear hug and was yelling at Booker T to get his stuff and that they should all get out of there. Booker, Chavo Sr. and Jordan left in a hurry out the door. Craig Titus was not hurt, just his ego. Whaddya know, a fight was BROKEN up by Chave Sr?? He's usually the one starting something. (thanks to, well, he probably doesn't want his name printed)


New Jack vs. Chad Austin, 1996

Feeling he had been thoroughly dissed by Austin (an ECW jobber), New Jack sought out his retribution. During a double tables match between the Gangstas and Austin/Meanie, Jack laid into Austin with stiff shots at ringside. Then came the planned finish of the chair shot, which was also stiff. It didn't end there, as Jack kept at it with 5 more chair shots after the match had ended. (thanks to Power Slam magazine and Brian Cooper at BigVanVader.com)

On a pay-per-view in about 1997, the main event was a cage match between Hogan and Piper. Savage was at ringside with Hogan and when the match was over, Savage ran in and both began pouncing on Piper. Some kid with a painted face jumped the rail into the aisle, climbed up the cage and got in the ring. I can't remember who it was, but somebody tried to hold him down outside the ring and he got away. He got in the ring and Savage held him as Hogan popped him two or three times. He eventually was pulled out of the ring. (thanks to John Nunez)

Reid Fliehr vs. Colby Hardin, 2005

This was after a championship wrestling match for the North Carolina 4A Western Regionals. Reid (Ric Flair's son) and Hardin were in sudden death, and Hardin won after making an escape with Reid on top. Hardin then did the strut and "Whooooo!" That was too much for Reid, who charged him. Before he got there, punches were being thrown by students from both schools (Providence High and South Mecklenburg High). The fight was broken up quickly, and Reid ended up getting suspended from his first 3 wrestling meets next season. Both high schools were also fined $1,000 each. Looks like Reid inherited his father's temper. If Reid was going to beat up a North Carolina resident, he at least should've beaten up Torch columnist Bruce Mitchell. (thanks to the Wrestling Observer Newsletter)

WWE vs. British kickboxers, 2005

After the April 2005 TV tapings in England, there was a minor altercation at the Hilton Hotel in Birmingham. There was a kickboxing exhibition the same night, and the fighters and fans were all liquored up. They started calling wrestling fake and making fun of the wrestling fans. One of the fans went after WWE ref Jack Doan. At that point, the wrestlers, who were much larger than the boxers and their fans, held them back and restrained them until the cops came. That was it. But the tabloids, of course, blew the story out of proportion to the point Batista was reportedly throwing around the boxers. Again, that is probably just tabloids being tabloids (maybe they got their journalistic lessons from the Torch). (thanks to the Wrestling Observer Newsletter, Andrew Jubraj, and Mohamed Ahmed)

Lance Storm vs. JBL & Bob Holly, 2005

Storm, who is a trainer for OVW, was telling one of the OVW students to be careful when dealing with infamous ribbers and pranksters JBL and Bob Holly. In particular, Storm told him that they were bullies who sometimes work stiff, and that he thought it was unprofessional. JBL and Holly confronted Storm backstage at a WWE show, and heated words were exchanged. JBL challenged him, but Storm blew him off. Many saw it as Storm being professional, while others saw it as Storm being a chicken. Anyone with a brain would see it as Storm being a professional. This is a Fortune 500 company, and there's no place for crap like this to happen in 2005. Having said that, I wish someone would finally muster up the courage to beat the **** out of JBL and Holly, because they both need serious beatings. Puder? Angle? Lashley? Come on, one of you has gotta step to to the plate! (thanks to the Wrestling Observer Newsletter)

Dustin Rhodes vs. his wife, 2005

In April of 2005, Rhodes was arrested on charges of domestic abuse. Details are not known at this time. Why is it that whenever domestic abuse charges happen in wrestling, the guy getting charged is always from Texas?

Kevin "Mordecai" Fertig vs. a drunk bar patron, 2004/2005

A drunk guy at a bar picked a fight with Fertig, and Fertig "finished it, with an exclamation point." It was so bad that now the guy might sue Fertig. Mordecai, who wrestled on SmackDown in 2004, has returned to OVW, where Paul Heyman is working with him to improve his game. (thanks to the Wrestling Observer Newsletter)

Peter Maivia & Lia Maivia vs. The Police

In the early 1970s, Peter and Lia (The Rock's grandparents) were out drinking with friends. One of their friends was refused service, and Peter stepped in. The commotion caused the bartended to not serve drinks to anyone in the group. Then a drunk, off-duty cop jumped in and a huge brawl started. Peter and his guys beat up cops from San Francisco, Brisbane, and San Mateo. Finally they were taken to jail, but so many Samoans protested that Peter and Lia were eventually released and not charged (welll, this IS San Francisco we're talking about). This all happened right on the Peninsula of the Bay Area, which is where I lived for 3 years, and is also where Crash Holly used to live.

King Blitz vs. Fiend Boy A wrestler by the name of King Blitz who wrestles for indy feds in Memphis went backstage and caught another local Memphis wrestler by the name of Fiend Boy, and Blitz began to beat him in the side of his face with brass knuckles until he was pulled off by J.E.W. (the promotion they were working for at the time) locker room. (thanks to Jesse Matthews)
Ric Flair vs. a fan, early 80's

Flair was going to face Kerry Von Erich for the championship at Kiel Auditorium. Flair was walking down the aisle (which were much smaller back then) and some moron grabbed a hold of the golden locks. Flair reached back with one hand and landed a vicious punch with the other. Fan went down hard as St. Louis' finest grabbed him. Said moron was "literally" carried out kicking, screaming and bleeding all the way. The winner: Flair and those of us lucky enough to be sitting next to the exit. (thanks to Mike Skinker)

Gordon Scozzari vs. Madusa

This was part of the whole Gilbert/Gaylord thing where Madusa, I believe married to Gilbert at the time, heard Scozzari paid Gaylord to attack Gilbert over something to do with Scozzari's ill-fated promotion. (thanks to Vinnie Carolan)

Matt Hardy vs. Edge (verbal), 2005

Edge was messing around with Matt's girlfriend Lita. Matt was alerted to it after Edge's wife called Matt asking him why Edge and Lita kept calling each other. Matt asked Lita, and she denied anything. Matt later found a hidden cell phone of Lita's, and checked the messages. He heard a message from Edge that led Hardy to believe something was definitely up. Lita admitted it, and Matt kicked her out of the house. Matt wrote remarks on his website about Edge (his former best friend), calling him "feces." No punches thrown, yet.

Kurt Angle vs. Daniel Puder, 2004

During the Tough Enough thing on SmackDown, Angle challenged anyone to wrestle him in a shoot. Puder volunteered. Angle berated him and then they wrestled. It was just an angle, though they were wrestling for real. Puder slapped on a painful lock out of nowhere, and would've broken Angle's arm had he not let go. The agents backstage in the Gorilla position were screaming at the ref to stop the match, which he did. And thank goodness, because it would've embarrassed WWE badly (not that they would've aired it). WWE never turned it into an angle, and from TV you can't tell it happened.

Mike Rotundo vs. a jobber

This was a prelim match on WCW syndication in early 90's that turned into a shoot. I think the jobber was a larger, African American man. (thanks to Vinnie Carolan)

Vader vs. Stan Hansen

Not a real shoot, but a stiff match. Vader's eye did indeed pop out... so he pushed the damn thing back in and continued. He took his mask off to a chorus of ooos and ahhhhs from the Japanese fans because he was having some problems with the swelling. His eye swelled up pretty bad. (thanks to Maddog (Joe))

Bad News "Allen" Brown vs. Andre the Giant


One time in the early 80's during an early stint Bad News had with the WWF, the boys were all on a bus traveling between shows. Andre the Giant was in the back of the bus with Hulk Hogan and company telling
racist jokes that Bad News took offense to. Bad News told him to shut up, then when he turned around Andre
shouted out a racial slur. Bad News made the driver stop the bus and told Andre to meet him outside. Andre
refused and Hogan and others tried to soothe the situation. The next day Andre apologized to Bad News. Keep in mind this was back when Andre was still in decent shape, before his body really deteriorated. (thanks to Grant Prairie, who heard this from Bad News himself)

Bad News "Allen" Brown vs. The Guerreros

Another time around the beginning of his wrestling career Bad News wrestled a tag match in Japan against the Guerrero's (Hector, Mando and Chavo Sr.). Bad News was still quite green at the time and the Guerrero's took exception to how stiff Bad News worked. They confronted him in the locker room afterwards. Bad News apologized but the Guerreros were steaming and wouldn't it let it go until it turned into a 3 on 1 with Bad News destroying all 3 of them. As a side note, Bad News was backstage at a WWE show in Calgary a few years back and Chavo Jr. went up to Bad News and was in awe of him since he'd heard the story from his dad and was telling all the other wrestlers how tough Bad News was back in the day. (thanks to Grant Prairie, who heard this from Bad News himself)

Ric Flair vs. a Journalist (duplicate from above with Flair vs. Richard Fullington)

I was just reading that Flair was backstage when an interviewer walked past. Flair said 'Hi' and the guy replied 'Hi, you're too old to be in the ring, its time you retired' (or words to that effect), prompting Flair to go ballistic. I don't know if any actual punches were thrown. Hope you can include this on your page. (thanks to AJM)

Bruno Sammartino vs. Johnny Shumway

This wrestling match apparently happened in Toronto when Bruno was wrestling for Frank Tunney. Sammartino claims that Shumway tried to shoot on him and Bruno hit him with one shot and it knocked him out (thanks to Marcos Cortest)

Bruno Sammartino vs. Antonio Inoki

Sammartino claimed this as one of the reasons he never would work for Inoki. He was wrestling a tag match and felt that Inoki was trying to make a name for himself by shooting on Bruno during the match. According to Bruno, he responded to Inoki shooting on him by catching him in a front facelock and "almost broke his neck."
After that match Bruno knew never to trust Inoki and would only work for Giant Baba in Japan. (thanks to Marcos Cortest)

Masahito Kimura vs. Rikidozan

Kimura is the famed Judo legend who once beat Helio Gracie in a submission match. He later did pro wrestling and before wrestling Rikidozan the two got into some sort of an argument about the finish. Kimura later stated that the match was supposed to be a draw but as soon as it started Kimura ran across the ring and shot in on Dozan taking him down. From there, he pummeled him with punches while on top and the match was stopped with Dozan winning by KO. (thanks to Marcos Cortest)

Akira Maeda vs. Wataru Sakata

Sakata was a student of Maeda's and was being interviewed by the Japanese press after a disappointing shoot match for Maeda's rings promotion. Maeda, pissed off at the lack of effort he felt his student displayed in the bout, ran up to Sakata knocked him out of his chair and starting beating him up with punches and kicks. The whole thing only lasted a minute or so and aired on Japanese TV, it was not an angle or a work though it sounds like one. (thanks to Marcos Cortest)


Arn Anderson vs. Disco Inferno

Disco was sitting on a plane behind Arn Anderson. Mike Enos is on a cell phone and Arn tells him to turn it off. He tells him several times. Finally, Arn threatens Enos and Disco jumps up with four fingers in the air and says, ‘Yeah Arn, take care of him Horseman style’! Arn turned around and bitched slapped him right in the face. (thanks to Bryan Alvarez at Figure 4 Weekly newsletter)

Rick Steiner vs. Vordell Walker, 2005

There are many versions of this story, so I will just cut and paste from the W365 Newsletter. "Rick Steiner went nuts at a Southern Championship Wrestling event this past weekend in Ocala, FL. He was teaming with Erick Stevens vs. Vordell Walker & Dustin Rhodes. According to those at the show, Steiner (who had taped his fists up ready for a fight backstage before the match) began shooting on Walker and tried to choke him out. Walker broke free with ease and then basically gave Steiner a beating, taking him down twice with front face locks. Steiner was really taken back because he thought he was dealing with a kid who didn't know any better. The match was thrown out with Stevens and Walker visibly upset. That left Steiner and Rhodes to work singles.
After that match the crowd watched Walker run out to confront Steiner at the concession area, shove him, and call him out. Steiner backed down telling him to "f--k off" and then left the building, apparently worried for his well being." Basically Steiner was being his usual ******* self and going rough on the indie guys. Vordell knew how to shoot, and gave it right back to him. Steiner realized it and backed off, wisely. Vordell is now becoming a hero for it, and rightly so. Steiner always does this crap and it's entirely unprofessional. (thanks to Zeeboe and Mike Aldren at the W365 Newsletter)

Scott Norton vs. an Armpit reader, 1997


We got this from a reader named Jon Southerland: "Just wanted to let ya guys know of a close call I had a few years ago while WCW was in Las Vegas in 1997 for Halloween Havoc. The night before the PPV at the MGM Grand, numerous wrestlers and fans were checking into the hotel. Myself and a few friends were hanging out drinking with some of the wrestlers at the Betty Boop bar located in the hotel. We were not bothering the wreslters, but just saying hello and shaking hands with most of them as they passed our table. During one point I went to the bar and ordered a few beers, Scott Norton was seated at the bar with a female patron. Scott looked my direction as I was ordering our drinks and I said hello. I told him I was big fan and shook his hand, the female then became upset and told me I had interrupted their conversation. I apologized and tried to leave and go back to our table, but Scott still had a grip on my hand. Scott then looked rather pissed off and would not let go of my hand and started to squeeze. For a moment I thought he was going to break my hand and I had thoughts of hitting him with my beer bottle to escape, I'm sure he could have very easily broken my hand if he wanted too. Anyway, he finally released my hand and I returned to our table." Now that is frightening. Glad you're okay, Jon.

The Rudeboy vs. Abdullah the Butcher

This was a match on the Insane Clown Posse's JCW in a cage match. Not really a backstage fight but Abdullah took some liberties on Rudeboy by stabbing him with a broken beer bottle. I heard Abdullah was drinking before the match too. WINNER: Abdullah the Butcher. And the ICP for being able to witness this massacre. (thanks to Tim)

Zach Gowen vs. a fan

We got this from a reader who asked to remain anonymous: "This is an extract from Zach Gowen's own Livejournal. After reading all of the entries, it seems like Gowen really has a hatred of fans, or the smarky ones at least. "I turned from fan favorite to rule breaker early in the show with an angle that was heavily influenced from Flair/Funk in 1989. We had a big brawl and a pull apart gimmick which was fun but I accidentally beat up a fan that I thought was part of the show. I jump on this dude and start working punches when all of a sudden I hear Brain Gorie say, "Dude, he's a fan, get off him!" So I started punching him as hard as I could. ****ing idiot. Fans should NOT run onto the floor in a basketball game and they most definitely shouldn't get involved in a wrestling angle." WINNER: Zach. I just find the concept of him hitting the guy harder after being told to stop hilarious."

Zach Gowen, Truth Martini and Brian Gorie vs. a bar patron

Another anonymous reader sent us this. "Another Livejournal extract. "I was part of a 4 Horsemen beat down tonight. Keep in mind this actually transpired outside of Derby's Bar and Grill in Detroit. To protect the innocent, names have been changed. I'm Ric Flair, Truth Martini is Nikita Koloff and Brian Gorie is Arn Anderson. The guy that got *** beat is Lex Luger. Ok, so we're in the bar minding our own business when this ugly fat chick starts verbally assaulting me. She keeps accusing me of calling her a fat bitch. Did the words "You're a fat bitch" come out of my mouth? Well, of course they did. Were they directed at this particular fat bitch? No, they weren't. She finally stops bothering us and I'm thinking all is cool. That is until we step out of the bar. The same fat bitch is waiting for me outside and she starts up again with her incoherent rambling. I gently pull her aside to explain to her that I wasn't talking about her and here's where Lex Luger jumps in. He grabs my arm, pushes me away and says, "Don't ****ing touch my girl". This guy's just asking for trouble. I try to explain to him that I have no interest in touching his "girl" but he won't have any part of it. Then he starts threatening me, that's where he crossed the line. I keep looking over at Nikita (played by Truth) and I can see the fire building up inside of him. So I start cutting the promo on this dude. I cut the ****ing promo of my life. I don't remember word for word what was said but I do remember saying this..."Look at you, you little bald headed ******. I'm Zach Gowen baby, I drive a 75,000 dollar car (ok, so I lied in my promo, big deal), I'm a ****ing multi-millionaire (again, another lie) and I **** the hottest girls in the world (that part's true actually). And what do you do? Go home and **** that fat cow of a bitch every night? You ****ing hillbilly, you make me sick. Get the **** outta here." That's when he started to walk away. I thought, "Cool, no fighting". Then he called me a *****...or maybe I called him a *****, I dunno. But the next thing I know, Arn Anderson (played by Brian Gorie) spits at him. He comes charging back but Nikita's hot as hell at this point. Truth grabs him by the collar of his shirt and throws his *** the ground. I mean this guy took the bump of his life. Details are a little sketchy after this but I remember looking over at Truth and him flashing the 4 Horsemen sign at me. Luger (played by douchebag) gets up and starts punching Truth, that's when Gorie tackles him to the ground and puts the choke on along with a few punches to the face. So, they're on the ground, Truth's kicking 50 yard field goals into his ribs and I'm just punching this dude in the face as hard as I can. That goes on for a minute or two, the cops show up (no charges were filed) and I end up with blood all over my new shirt my mom got me for my birthday. And my knuckles are swollen and my hands hurt like hell. Gorie gotta black eye and lost his glasses. All in all, it was a fun night." WINNER: The Four Horsemen.

Kurt Angle Vs. Eddie Guerrero, late 2004

Zeeboe sent this in. "Kurt Angle and Eddie Guerrero got into an altercation backstage at Smackdown after the final segment of the show. As they came through the curtain, they exchanged words, loudly, in front of everyone at the Gorilla position. It quickly escalated from verbal to physical. The word was that Angle grabbed Eddie in a face lock and took him down to the ground, incapacitating him, before being pulled off by Johnny Ace and some of the agents. Then, they apparently got into it again further in the back before getting broken up again. From what I was told, Vince McMahon talked to both men about the incident before leaving the building. The rumor making the rounds was that Eddie missed his cue in the final segment, which made Kurt's character look weak. Given the fact that Eddie wasn't himself at the time with some people thinking he hadn't fully recovered from his concussion, the story I heard is that Angle grew frustrated and told Eddie to basically get his head in the game, and it escalated from there. WINNER: Kurt Angle" (thanks to Zeeboe and PWInsider)


Perry Saturn vs. Mike Bell

In this match from WWF Metal a few years ago, Saturn snapped and started to work stiff on Mike Bell. The match began with a bit of chain wrestling, but after a few botched takedowns from Bell (Saturn landed on his head/neck) Saturn snapped and started to punch him for real. After that, Saturn threw Bell out of the ring (right on his head, it looked really nasty), then he threw him on the steel steps. Saturn rolled Bell back in the ring and brawled a little bit and delivered a vertical suplex. He ended the match with a stiff looking superkick. Word is that WWE management were mad at Saturn, and on the next show they let Bradshaw to work stiff on Saturn. (thanks to Frits)


JBL vs. Sean Conaway, 2005

Sean Conaway was Stephanie McMahon's favorite member of the WWE creative team. He has a reputation for befriending wrestlers, just to figure out what their real opinions of WWE management are, then ratting them out to Stephanie. Conaway, along with a few other production assistants, were in the same bar that Orlando Jordan and JBL happened to be in after a show one night. JBL and Jordan decided to get some revenge on Conaway, and challenged him to a drinking contest, which lead to much more. Conaway lost the contest and began to walk away, however Jordan told him he couldn't quit, so he kept on drinking. Conaway passed out in his room, and Orlando Jordan went in and ordered gay pornography on his room bill without him knowing. Conaway, who was still passed out, ended up completely missing his flight for RAW that night. Conaway ended up lying to Stephanie McMahon about it, telling her that he was detained by airport security, and that was what caused him to miss the flight. She understood, and there were no issues. The next night at the Smackdown tapings, JBL and Jordan told other wrestlers the negative stories about Conaway from that Sunday night. Not only did they tell the wrestlers, but they also interrupted the production meeting before Smackdown, which was attended by Vince and Stephanie McMahon, to tell the story about what happened. As a result, Stephanie McMahon found out that Conaway had completely lied to her about why he missed raw, and needless to say, is furious. On top of that, now management knows about the other negative stories, and has probably gotten word about those extra expenses on his hotel bill as well. Sean Conaway, a member of the WWE creative team, is no longer with the company. Conway, only 23, had been with the WWE since June 2004, serving as a writing assistant. Within the company, many considered him a "spy" for Stephanie McMahon. (thanks to XtremeFalls43 and WrestleView.com and Gerweck.net)




Ric Flair & Dusty Rhodes vs. Carmine Despirito (wrestling Eye magazine editor), Richard Sanders (photographer for Apter Mags), and Brian Razzi (Carmine's best buddy at the time), 1987

Here's an email we got from a reader: "This ridiculousness actually started at the show earlier that night. Upon entering the cage for War Games 1987, Flair gets into it with a photographer at ringside (for no apparent reason). Flair tried to have the photographer (Sanders) removed from ringside but couldn't. (Sanders was working with the Pennsylvania Athletic commission at that time as well as the Apter mags). After the show, the after party spilled back to the airport Marriot. Despirito, Razzi, and Sanders were outside of the lounge when Flair walks by. Just so happened we were all laughing about jokes Carmine was telling at the time. (that had NOTHING to do with wrestling). Carmine had heat with all of the boys because his magazine printed the "truths" about pro wrestling. Flair walks back again returning from the men's room, and we just so happened to still be laughing. (Carmine was a REALLY funny guy if you ever had a chance to talk to him.) Flair stops, and confronts Sanders. "Do you think something is funny?" he asked. I reply, "What are you talking about?" No one is laughing at you, if that's what you mean. Then he goes on about me never being allowed to shoot at ringside again, and I remind him that he's not in North Carolina, and he doesn't call the shots with athletic commission here. He then starts to cut a promo about the things he has (what was funny, I was making about $45K a year between my regular job and selling wrestling pictures on the weekends) and how he bets I'm broke, (poor) blah, blah, blah. At this time, a semi crowd starts to form from the fracas. Flair and I are about 1 ft apart (as I was wishing that he slugged me, so I could have whipped his ***, and then sued him later. At that time, I was benching 325 in sets of 8. About 245lbs and 6'4" tall) I reminded him that no stomping would be done when my punches starting flying (mocking a wrestling punch). Out of no where, Dusty Rhodes is in the middle of this. "What the **** is your problem?" he asks. I immediately return the same question to him. The F bomb was dropped a couple of times from all parties involved. They were reminded that they were a lonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnng way from home to be talking trash to guys that they didn't know. (A few of my frat brothers were less than 25ft away talking to some women) Hotel security intervened. Of course, we were thrown out. We all left the hotel lobby, went to Denny's (where we ran into JJ Dillion and Ron Simmons. Simmons pulled me to the side, and told me that " I knew what this was about," (assuming he was talking about race, because I'm black) and I told him the same thing that I told Flair a little while earlier........ He was a lonnnnnnnnnnnnnnng way from North Carolina to be talking to strangers in a disrespectful way. Ron Simmons tried to remind me that he wasn't worth spending the rest of my life in prison for. Today, I have to agree with him. Winners: the crowd who got to see someone stand up to that punkass Flair and Dusty Rhodes. I covered a Turnbuckle sports show last year in GA featuring Abdullah the Butcher and Rhodes on top and I wanted to remind Rhodes soooooooooooooo bad about bragging about the "things he had" back in 1987. I probably have more money in my wallet, than he has in bank account. I'm equally glad to see Flair make an *** out of himself in the WWE nowadays. I wonder if he still thinks he's the man?? Whoooooooo that. Chump." (thanks to Ricci Bard)


Harley Race & Nick Bockwinkel vs. Stan Hansen & Bruiser Brody

Taken from www.thesmartmarks.com: "Tagging with Nick Bockwinkel against Hansen and Bruiser Brody- Nick started out one match against them and got the absolute dogpiss beaten out of them. Harley tagged in to face Brody, sidestepped a kick, twisted Brody's ankle, then put his foot near Brody's nose and told him that if he wanted to get serious, he was up for it. Brody tagged out to Hansen, who was uncooperative with Harley in a suplex spot and just sat down. Harley just dragged Hansen to the ropes and Hansen got up because he figured that the referee would call for a rope break. As soon as he stood up, Harley suplexed him." (thanks to Big M and www.thesmartmarks.com)


Dynamite Kid vs. Danny Spivey


One of our readers remembers reading in Dynamite Kid's book that after ribbing Danny Spivey on a tour bus Spivey went for him. A few wrestlers got in between, but Dynamite noted that with his long reach, Spivey was able to reach around and crack Dynamite in the ribs really good. Realizing that Spivey was no pushover, Dynamite quickly befriended him. (thanks to PHender864)


Kevin Von Erich vs. The Great Kabuki

From www.thesmartmarks.com: "Great Kabuki- Kabuki insisted on wrestling him and Kevin insisted on
giving him a rough time because he didn't think Kabuki was ready because of how his body looked. During the match, Kabuki turned his back on him, which is ALWAYS a no-no but, when Kevin attempted to blindside him, Kabuki kicked him with blinding speed and broke his cheek and nose. He had a new respect for him after that and made sure to get on the mic and challenge him to a match the next week." (thanks to Big M)


Gino Hernandez vs. A fan

From www.thesmartmarks.com: "Gino Hernandez- He bitched a lot but could only kick the *** of one person
in the business. Ox Baker. Because of that, Gino would always find an excuse to kick Ox's *** whenever he ran across him. He also remembers one show where Gino made an open challenge to the crowd and a huge cowboy answered it. Gino's plan was to kick the guy in the head while he was coming through the ropes but didn't land it in the right part of the head because all it did was piss the guy off. Gino then went to the all-purpose Plan B. running to the back and cowering in the locker room. He then stuck with Killer Brooks for the rest of the night and, when the cowboy ran into them at the hotel, Brooks knocked the guy out then Gino started kicking the **** out of him while he was down." (thanks to Big M)


Sabu vs. the Yakuza

From www.thesmartmarks.com: "One time, when Sabu was wrestling, the Yakuza were sitting at ringside.
The promoter had told everyone that they were there and what section they were sitting in, but Sabu didn't care. One of the guys ended up taking a swing at Tiger Jeet Singh , and Sabu ended up kicking the **** out of him.
It turns out there were 50 of them there, including a boss. They started a near-riot. He (Awesome) was in the locker room at the time and heard some commotion outside, thinking the match had ended up there, and came out to see Sabu on the floor, several guys kicking the **** out of him, and someone about to hit him with a chair. He ran out and started clearing house long enough to get Sabu back to the dressing room. All the foreigners ended up stuck in the locker room for about 2 hours until Onita could get things calmed down." (thanks to Big M)


Jim Cornette vs. Fans

From www.thesmartmarks.com: "Tulsa, OK- The fans from Hell. Every time they went to Tulsa, Cornette
seriously considered quitting. It was quite a contrast from Oklahoma City, where they'd work a morning show before going to Tulsa that night and which had the nicest arena in the whole territory and clean-cut fans. The fans in Tulsa tended to be of the redneck variety, even moreso than other Mid-South cities, and tended to be drunk off their asses and looking for a fight. Without fail, there was a riot whenever the Midnight Express wrestled there, whether it be against Magnum TA and Mr. Wrestling II, the Rock and Roll Express, Bill Watts and Stagger Lee (Junkyard Dog under a mask), etc. The show before their match with Watts and JYD, there had been a HUGE riot because one moron had tried to get in the ring and got his face split open by a Condrey kick. "Nature Boy" Buddy Landell would come halfway to the ring to help them fight their way back to the dressing room each week. Buddy had the guy in a front facelock with his legs spread, so Cornette kicked a field goal on the guy and sprained his leg in the process. Right before they got back to the locker room, someone jumped from the archway of the general admission seating to try and get the Midnights. Buddy punched the guy while
he was still in midair but slipped on spilled beer and they both took flat back bumps. The police already had the guy who had started the whole thing pulled aside in the back and he was passed out, so Cornette started "kicking the **** OUT OF HIM, I don't give a **** if he's unconscious." The only cop who hadn't been involved in the riot pulled Cornette off of him, then Dennis went behind the cop's back and started beating up on the guy even more with Cornette's belt wrapped around his fist. Cornette thought was hilarious because it was a spot right out of one of their matches." (thanks to Big M)


Jim Cornette vs. Fans

From www.thesmartmarks.com: "Another night, the cops pulled the guys who started the fight into the back and Watts stood on their heads. Fortunately for them, he was only in tennis shoes because Watts later said "****, I should of worn my cowboy boots!" Watts then picked the guy up, told Grizzly to hold him against the wall, then punched him and let the cops take him away " (thanks to Big M)

Jim Cornette vs. Fans

From www.thesmartmarks.com: "The bad riot in Tulsa- Because one of the people who got the **** kicked out of him was a Highway Patrolman's son, Internal Affairs got involved and the Tulsa PD was no longer allowed to work security at the matches. They ended up with the county sheriff's department deputies, which was bad enough. It got worse when the next show was at the Tulsa Fairgrounds instead of the city arena, as it was a big rodeo barn with absolutely no seating pattern. Watts drove to the match in his Rolls Royce and pulled it into the archway of the door that night. Before the Midnight's match, someone had tried to clobber Nikolai Volkoff with a chair on the way to the ring and missed, breaking the chair over a deputy's head. The stipulation of the Midnight Express vs. Junkyard Dog and Watts match that night was that, when the Midnights lost, Cornette would get put in his mother's pink dress. Things went downhill when Watts decided he was going to put on a clinic for the boys in the back of how to sell for the Midnight Express, which scared the Midnights ****less because you DON'T put that kind of a beating on the hometown hero. There was so much heat that night that "If we'd won, they wouldn't have been able to get us out of there with a helicopter." It was so bad that guys were jumping into the ring while Watts was making his comeback just so they could help out. Watts beat up the Midnights, stripped Cornette down and put the dress on him. At that point, Cornette was wearing a pink dress, dress shoes, and carrying a tennis racket when he sees four deputies who look at him and say "RUN!" He starts running back to the dressing room and he's losing cops as he goes along because the fans are tripping them.
Eventually, he started windmilling the tennis racket and ran as fast as he could. Once he broke free of the crowd, Jim Ross was trying to stop him from getting near Watts' Rolls Royce because the crowd had started throwing beer bottles at him. Cornette just kept running and all kinds of stuff landed on the car. As far as Cornette's concerned, the two shows that day did $194,000 in business and, since those were 1984 dollars, Watts could have afforded another few Rolls Royces after that kind of business." (thanks to Big M)

Batista vs. Randy Orton

This happened sometime after Randy Orton turned face, apparently Randy Orton had made some joke about Batista. The two got into a minor scuffle with no punches thrown. The two made up soon after. Winner: no one seeing as about 3 people saw it (thanks to Daniel Simpson)

Ron Simmons vs. Big Show
Big Show was making a point about something when Simmons basically told him to sit down and shut up. The two men faced off and had to be separated. Winner: Big Show (Ron Simmons was released from contract about 2 weeks later) (thanks to Daniel Simpson)


Edge vs. Eddie Guerrero

Apart from the usual matches, some fans saw something 'extra' which involved a fight between Eddie Guerrero and Edge. The location of the seat was located near the entrance way which was easy to sneak around
backstage. Guerrero apparently was mad at something that Edge did and told him, "Don't you ever ****ing do that again" to which Edge responded with a huge shove almost knocking Guerrero to the floor. Officials stepped in instantly and broke up the fight as well as shutting the curtains after spotting the fans watching what was
happening backstage. Winner: (no one really) (thanks to Daniel Simpson)


Hulk Hogan vs. Glacier

Apparently, Glacier was boasting backstage about how over he was. He made a joke about being the 'next Hogan', and word got back to him. Hogan saw him at a later date and gave him a couple of blows to the face, but Glacier managed to fend him off, before applying the 'Ice Pick'. (thanks to Mark Rowley; by the way I'd like someone to confirm this because you never know with Hogan how much truth is involved)

Johnny "Laurinaitais" Ace vs. Gary Allbright

Sent in from a reader: "I was friends with Gary Albright, who was a sweet, genuine human being who worked his *** off. After Giant Baba died and Ms. Baba was in charge, Johnny went to her a couple of times and told her that Gary was injured and couldn't work the next tour and he had someone else to fill the spot. And it was complete bull****! Gary wasn't hurt but Johnny used his stroke with Ms. Baba to f*ck Gary over and get his friends a booking. Johnny Ace is a complete waste of flesh and a scumbag."

Chris Benoit vs. Maxx Payne vs. Samu/Fatu


Sent in from a reader: "This comes straight from the horse's mouth. Maxx Payne told me while training in the New Japan Dojo that Chris Benoit and himself went out with Samu and Fatu, who were over on a tour. Massive drinking followed with Benoit getting tore up and passing out at the table. As they started to leave, Samu and Maxx got into a verbal fight outside the bar and it got rough. Samu would charge Maxx, who had to fireman's carry Chris. Maxx would set Chris down, take Samu down and hold him until he'd say it was over. So they'd walk a while more and Samu would attack Maxx (still carrying Benoit) again and they repeated this by Maxx's estimate for over a mile and a half every few blocks. At one point Samu hit Maxx from behind on a bridge and almost dropped Chris into the empty seabed at low tide. Finally they arrived at the hotel and after putting Chris in his room, Maxx was in the hallway going into his room when he heard Samu's battle roar again coming down the hallway and turned planted his feet and threw a charging Samu so hard Samu broke his ankle on the ceiling, ending his tour with New Japan on the spot."


Earl Hebner vs. a fan, 2002

Back in May of 2002 on Raw, Edge and RVD were having a ladder match for the IC title in Edmonton. Eddie was climbing the ladder for the belt, when a fan hopped into the ring and shoved over the ladder. Eddie was
lucky to land to his feet and Earl Hebner caught the fan with a chokehold and wrestled him out of the ring.
Security finally stepped in (I read they were actually a sports team, rugby I believe and were more interested in watching the show) and Eddie landed in a few shots as the fan was escorted from the arena. (thanks to Jimmy Jett)

Jericho vs. a fan

Not sure of the date, but during either Jericho's WCW title reign or his Undisputed one (I'm believing it
was the previous) a fan attempted to steal the "big gold belt". I believe Jericho tagged the fan (but he
might've just pulled the title away) and security took care of it from there. (thanks to Jimmy Jett)

Virgil vs. a fan

I caught this on Wrestling's Greatest Steel Cage Matches Ever. DiBiase and Savage were having a cage match in the late 80's in one of the Gardens, I believe, when a fan (wearing a Hulkamania do-rag) hopped over the railing and began quickly scaling the cage. His mother appeared to be yelling at him from ringside as the wrestlers looked confused. Virgil scaled up for the kid and grabbed his leg, but it appeared as if he realized the kid could easily get hurt. Security quickly appeared afterwards and a member climbed up and tossed the fan down to other
members. (thanks to Jimmy Jett)

Security vs. fans

Nothing major, but at the first RAW show I attended (the June 30th, 1998 taping) Edge was early in his
career and appearing in the crowd. Anyway, he was hanging above my section and immediately, a few fans
nearby got up and went to surround him, I remember one saying something along the lines of "man, now's a good
time for to go to the bathroom" when a woman looking in her forties stepped down from the gate and simply
folded her arms. The fans mumbled and sat down, Edge left shortly afterwards and my friends and I laughed,
since the woman wasn't that big. (I'd guess under 5'6" and 200 lbs.) (thanks to Jimmy Jett)

Randy Orton vs. Rochelle (WWE Diva)

Apparently news has spread about the backstage incident of Randy Orton's outburst at Rochelle. Rochelle was doing an interview backstage or something and Randy Orton was trying to hit on her or something and Rochelle said, "Aren't you from Canada?" Then Orton went ballistic and shouted at her "I hate Canada and I hate you!" Then later on Rochelle found out that her purse was smeared with baby oil lotion in which the rumor online said that her bag was smeared with feces which in fact was just lotion. (thanks to Patrick)

Billy Kidman vs. Brock Lesnar

Billy Kidman was very pissed off about Brock Lesnar trying the shooting star press on Angle. Billy said, "I could do the F-5, its possible, but I just won't do it." Later on they both were seen bitching at each other but not actually fighting. (thanks to ChrisJericho911)


Perry Saturn vs. Minion

A reader sent this in: "Everyone knows Perry Saturn, and most people think he blew a great opportunity. Perry Saturn works many shows in the Midwest now, and recently he had an altercation with no-name Iowa worker Syphin. Syphin is a horrible worker, but the crowd digs him, and the fourteen to fifteen year old demographic loves him. Anyway, he was involved in a match, Syphin and his partner Minion taking on Saturn and Brutus. Saturn wasn't selling anything, as he usually doesn't at these shows, and this lead to him posing to the crowd after a suplex. Syphin got pissed and bum rushed Saturn from behind and started raining blows on him, and they were stiff. Perry covered up for a minute, and then when Syphin had backed off, jumped up like nothing, and gave him a sick punch to the face, that knocked Syphin stupid. Saturn then left the ring, got his things and left. Two weeks later, working for the same no name promotion, Saturn and Minion got into it after the show. Saturn had shown up as the "surprise" entrant in a battle royal, which he won. After the show while some of the wrestlers were taking pictures and signing autographs, yelling was coming from the back hallway of this dingy auditorium. It was Saturn and Minion throwing down, and I have to tell you that Saturn won again."


Tracy Smothers vs. JBL, 2005

Word has it that after Smothers got word that JBL stiffed on Blue Meanie, he gave it right back to JBL. According to the Observer, JBL's eyes were swelled up after the show. Later on the internet, Smothers issued a challenge to JBL to have a shoot, putting up his entire life savings.

Dave Meltzer vs. Tracy Smothers, 2005

Meltzer posted in the WrestlingClassics message boards that Smothers was probably not as tough as JBL. Smothers then issued a statement ripping into Meltzer, telling him he's never done anything athletic in his life. Nothing could be further from the truth, by the way. Meltzer did write in the Observer that Smothers was a crazy fighter who has been in his share of backstage scuffles.

Dave Meltzer vs. Terry Gordy

In the aforementioned rant by Smothers, he told of a story of how Meltzer introduced himself to Gordy in Japan at a bar. Gordy got pissed and grabbed the Observer from him, threw it down, stomped on it, and dared Meltzer to report that in his "sheet." This is insane, because Meltzer has always written nothing but nice things about Gordy.

Francine vs. Dawn Marie, 2005

Before the ECW One-Night Stand PPV, Dawn and Francince greeted each other backstage. Apparently Francine smirked or something, because Dawn went and complained to Laurinaitais about it. It didn't do either one of them any favors in the eyes of WWE management.

Blue Meanie vs. John "Bradshaw" Layfield, June 12, 2005



Meanie had, earlier, stated that JBL took liberties in the ring, and called him a "bully" on his website. At ECW One Night Stand, JBL took a huge liberty by stiff-punching Meanie in the face, opening up a fresh wound and giving him a black eye. Backstage, the fight continued physically as JBl went after Meanie again, but it was broken up. WINNER: Blue Meanie, after his point was proved in front of the Hammerstein Ballroom and the locker room. UPDATE: A handheld video of the incident has surfaced. Meanie is clearly taunting JBL before the brawl, although that was part of the show. JBL then punches him in the head from behind and they lock up. JBL lost his balance and got back up. The lock up again, and JBL nails him with face shots while all Meanie can get in is some weak body shots. JBL puts Meanie down and staggers away, looking back one last time to make sure he's down for good. After Meanie gets up, you can see him tell Al Snow what happened, and Snow looks concerned. Backstage, Meanie and JBL had to be separated, with JBL complaining about what Meanie had said about him on the internet and in a previous court case, testifying against him in a totally separate case involving ex-referee Billy Silverman. WWE never punished JBL for this. (thanks to The Lone Wolf)



Jamie Noble vs. a fan, 2005

At an ROH show, a fan accused Noble of only having his job because he performed a certain sexual act. Noble later got on the house mic and dared the fan to get in the ring and fight (he didn't, of course). Noble apologized for his actions and there was no further incident. (reported in the Wrestling Observer Newsletter)

Axl Rotten vs. a bar patron


This fight was mentioned on the IWA King of the Deathmatches 2003 tape. Before Axl's match against Corporal Robinson, Corp got on the mic and put over how tough Axl is, saying he got in a bar fight and broke his left hand and a few fingers in the other. Axl then got on the mic and said he beat the crap out of him. WINNER: Axl Rotten and anybody who saw the fight. (thanks to Tim)




Buh Buh Ray Dudley vs. a fan, 2002



First hand account from Tim Winers: "It was the night of HHH's return from his quad injury. Not the televised one on RAW but the house show in Binghamton NY. This guy I was with was ripping on the Dudley Boys, especially Buh Buh. He was saying things like "you suck" and you're a piece of sh#t." Buh Buh spat on him and that was that. Then as we left the arena, my friend yelled out "Buh Bub Ray Sucks, whooo". Well, Buh Buh was just getting in his car and he heard my friend. Buh Buh jumped out of the car ran towards my friend (I sidestepped out of the way) and my friend starts to back pedal faster then I've ever seen anyone before. Buh Buh kept chasing him saying "I guess I don't fuc#in suck now do I?" and "Get back here you little sh#t" and "Who's the piece of sh#t now"? D-Von got out of the car laughing and holding Buh Buh back. It was one of the funniest things I've ever seen and my friend deserved it. You can enjoy the show without being a putz and taking it too far. (Winner: Buh Buh Ray Dudley for teaching my friend about respect and for making the night a little more enjoyable)"

JBL vs. Steve Blackman, 1999/2000 - Updated

WWF was in between shows at the local airport, and the wrestlers were waiting by the baggage collection bay and Bradshaw decided to dick about trying to push Blackman onto the moving luggage belt. Blackman turned around unflustered and planted a crescent kick flush on Bradshaw's jaw, knocking him clean out, picked up his bag and walked on. Both shook hands when it was done. UPDATE: a reader saw an interview with the Blue Meanie which says Bradshaw was pissing Blackman off, calling him allsorts of stuff. Blackman just turned around and hit him in the face and body a dozen times then went to finish him off with a kick but got his foot caught in a luggage bag. This gave the guys watching a chance to separate the two. Bradshaw apologized straight after. If only other legit tough guys would do the same to Mr Layfield. (thanks to Steven, Chris, and John)



Big John Studd and the Road Warriors vs. Rochester, NY
This is from the autobiography of former MLB umpire Ken Kaiser. Kaiser was hosting a charity banquet in Rochester, and among the guests were Big John Studd and the Road Warriors, who apparently had a
little too much to drink, as they decided to throw chairs off of their balcony and see who could hit the most cars. It was zero-all when security ran in, looked at the three, and ran off. (thanks to Ryan)


New Jack vs. Gypsie Joe


Sent in by Tim: "I've seen this fight before. New Jack was at a show and was taking on the 80-year old Gypsie Joe (I'm serious). Apparently earlier, Joe was bragging that he was hardcore before hardcore was even considered. This, for some reason, angered Jack and he took his frustrations out on Joe in the match. Here's the sick part. On the outside, Jack started throwing chairs at Joe and whipping Joe with a chain, which was all real. Jack had Joe down, and then pulled out an aluminum baseball bat wrapped in barbedwire. Jack just kills Joe with the bat, smashing it over his upper-back. Jack finally stops and throws Joe into a row of chairs. Jack then walks away and threatens people in the crowd. Funny thing is, Joe just walked it off, not even resembling being hurt. WINNER: New Jack and anybody who's seen the fight. That's for sure." (thanks to Tim)





The Great Malenko vs. a fan

Malenko and Dale Lewis were in a match in Orlando when a fan jumped in and attacked Malenko. He ripped his shirt off and Malenko kicked him in the *** until security got him. (thanks to John)



The Samoans vs. a fan

Long before The Samoans of WWF there was a tag team managed by Dandy Jack in Florida with that name. A

fan attacked one of them and was chopped across the chest twice. Who in his right mind would mess with a tag team named the Samoans?? (thanks to John)



Roddy Piper vs. a photographer

Roddy Piper who was brought in a bounty hunter to unmask the Midnight Rider in the ring. The Midnight Rider was giving a young contest winner his jacket. Bill Otten, a photographer, was on the apron taking photos. Roddy Piper took exception to this and threatened to kick his ***. Otten replied "Go ahead and I'll sue you." (thanks to John)



Nishimura vs. a photographer

This was sent in by John, a former photographer from the territorial days of wrestling: "I was taking photos in Clearwater of a match featuring Nishimura vs. Tiger Mask#? I was laughing at things like The Spoiler taking photos with his point and shoot. Jimmy Suzuki, a photographer, was shouting up instructions to the wrestlers like abdominal stretch. I laughed again. Nishimura went outside to the apron and I stepped back thinking he was going to the top rope. To my surprise he jumped down and got in my face. I was saying "What did I do?" I was backing up from him he said "You have smiling face." I tried telling him I wasn't laughing at him. He got back in the ring and I finished shooting the match. I heard he was still mad after the match." (thanks to John)



Bubba Ray Dudley vs. Donna D'errico


Not a fight but this was during the days of MTV's Beachhouse and Donna went in to a house to wake up guys and put them on TV. Bubba was asleep and Donna just kind of taps him, waking him up in the process. Bubba happened to rollover and knocked the mic right back into her nose. Donna, of course, if the wife of our hero, Nikki Sixx of Motley Crue. Winner: Bubba Ray for getting woken up by a Baywatch babe. This story came from Bubba himself when the WWF then had their thing with MTV for Sunday Night Heat some kind of preview thing that MTV does. (thanks to Andrew Betts)


Bubba Ray Dudley vs. Sylvan Grenier (circa 2003, perhaps early August '03?)

This occurred during the feud between La Resistance and the Dudley Boyz, although it was either before Rob Conway's debut or he was somehow mysteriously not involved. There was a RAW house show in which the Dudley Boyz and La Resistance (Rene Dupree/Sylvan Grenier) had a match, and Grenier botched a spot by failing to get involved: Dupree took a 3-D, but the match wasn't supposed to end yet, and La Resistance being Tag-Team Champions meant they probably weren't even supposed to lose. Thus, the idea was for Grenier to rush into the ring and kick whichever Dudley was covering in order to break up the three-count. He didn't. Grenier completely missed his cue, forcing Dupree to kick out to keep the match going. Bubba Ray Dudley was reportedly furious--after all, can you imagine what it looks like to have Rene Dupree kick out of your finisher?--and laid into Grenier backstage after the match. Words were definitely exchanged and there may have been one or two "minor scuffle" style moves before it got broken up, though the violence didn't escalate *too* terribly high. (thanks to Kjorteo)


New Jack vs. Larry Sweeny

Sent in by Shane: "Not a big deal, but I heard that Larry Sweeney and New Jack got into a verbal fight backstage at IWA-MS, believe it or not. It was in January in Highland. New Jack was drunk when he showed up. At some point, he asked Sweeney to untie his boots, and Sweeney hesitated. New Jack then flipped
out on him, saying that Sweeney thought he was a big deal and that he (New Jack) didn't know any better because he'd only been in the business 6 months. One of the other wrestlers (I think Chris Hero) diffused the
situation by untying New Jack's boots. Sweeney quickly left the locker room, saying he had calls to make." (thanks to Shane)

JBL vs. Stevie Richards


On the night Blue Meanie was asked to show up at SmackDown to go over JBL (as a way to prevent Meanie from filing a lawsuit), Meanie's buddy Stevie Richard stiffed JBL with an incredibly brutal chairshot that opened him up hardway. In an interview later, Stevie admitted JBL will probably kick his *** eventually for it. Stevie said that JNL had it coming to him and that it was the right thing to do. (name not given by sender)



Big Show & a cookie vs. a random drunk



As told by Big Show himself on an episode of "Late Night With Conan O'Brien" this was back before Big Show was a a wrestler and he was a bouncer at a bar. Some random drunk mouthed off and said something like "F-You Lurch" so Big Show was very mad and all he had was a cookie so, being a pitcher back in high school, he threw the cookie and hit guy right in the back of the head. The guy ran and hid in a cab but the cab driver was inside. Big Show got to the cab and never got to the guy but the guy pissed himself. Winner: Big Show




Andre The Giant vs. 4 drunks


As seen on the documentary "The Unreal Story Of Pro Wrestling." In the mid '70's, four guys were hassling Andre at a bar and he got pissed and decided to so something about so he chased the guys out of the bar. They got in their car and thought they were safe. They were wrong. Andre proceeded to roll the car on to its roof and then left. Winner: Andre. It makes him even more of a legend. However, like all Andre stories, this is probably embellished. (thanks to Andrew Betts)


Jim Cornette vs. Anthony Carelli, 2005
This is the slap that got Jim Cornette fired from WWE. Carelli is an indie guy who was brought to the OVW tapings to be a plant in the crowd and act scared of the Boogey Man gimmick, played by Marty "Liar" Wright. Instead of acting scared, Carelli laughed and screwed up the whole angle. Cornette was naturally pissed and went backstage and ordered Carelli to come in. He cut a promo on Carelli and started slapping him over a dozen times. Carelli did nothing, smartly knowing that if he retaliated, his WWE career would be history. He did complain to WWE, and Cornette was then fired. We love Cornette, but I would've fired him too if he had done that. Luckily for Cornette, Carelli (who has a shooter background) didn't demolish him like he could have. WINNER: The anti-Cornette writers in WWE.
Anthony Carelli vs. fans
The aforementioned Carelli wrestled in Canada, and ended up in a scuffle with 7 or 8 fans in the parking lot along with wrestler George Terzis. According to the promoter that broke up the fight, Carelli had already beaten 2 of the guys up himself. Imagine what he would've done to Cornette. (thanks to the Wrestling Observer Newsletter)


Road Warriors vs. The Crusher & Dick the Bruiser

Not a fight, but Hawk and Animal decided to take some liberties with the guys in a match. So they press slammed them; mind you theses guys never left the ground in the 30+ years they wrestled. Apparently Crusher said "What are you guys doing?" and Hawk's response was "Whatever we want." This came from Animal on the Road Warriors DVD. (thanks to Andrew Betts)


Road Warriors vs. The Fabulous Ones (Stan Lane & Steve Keirn)

Not a fight, but just a match. Backstage, Verne Gagne said the Fabulous Ones were going to pull the the switch and the Road Warriors were supposed to lose, but when they got to the ring Animal said "We're not going for the finish." So the Warrirors beat the living Hell out the Fabs. The Warriors got some chairs, then the Fabs got chairs. The match ended up a double DQ. Needless to say, Verne gave the Warriors a scolding at some point in his tirade "Nobody has changed the finish on me in 30 years." The Warriors were like "Well, we just did." (thanks to Andrew Betts)





Nick Bollea (Hulk Hogan's son) vs. The Big Show

Backstage, Nick shot Big Show with a slingshot. Big Show retaliated by duct taping Nick to a chair for approximately three hours. This came from a Hogan interview in Maxim magazine, so take the truth for what you will. (thanks to Jeremy Cundiff)



Earl Hebner vs. a Fan (Raw House Show, 2003)



Got this email: "My name's Matt. I had front row seats to a November House show which was headlined by Kane vs. Goldberg. During the Evolution vs. Maven/Booker T match, Evolution started prancing around the ring and flipping fans off and posing, and for some strange reason, a "You screwed Bret" chant broke out. I chanted it just for fun, to which he turned to us and told us to "F*ck off". We all laughed, but I took it one step further. I screamed at him telling him his son was a better ref and that Nick Patrick was better than him and he yelled back at me, "F*ck you!" I was shocked because he looked pissed legitimately. I yelled back the same comment to which he replied, "Your mama likes big white balls" and then grabbed his crotch and I told him that his mom had "jungle fever". He looked at me and in a sad manner said, "My mom's dead, ****er" and he walked across the ring to start the match. After the show was over, I saw him going to his car, but didn't know if it was him or his twin brother, Dave. I asked, "Dave or Earl?" and he said that it was indeed Earl. I asked for his autograph and either he didn't realize that it was me, or he had forgotten or figured the entire situation was a joke. I didn't take it seriously, but figured it would be fun to humiliate him in front of the rest of the group of wrestlers around him and gave him the crotch chop. He kicked the fence and then got in his car as surrounding fans laughed and a few of the wrestlers did too, most notably Rob Conway, Rene Dupree and Lance Storm. Winner: Me. I laugh everyday knowing that Earl got fired for selling merchandise illegally." (thanks to Matthew)


Harley Race vs. a civilian

This camestraight from Race's book. At this point in time, he was working as a process server for his local court. Harley was running out of time to serve a guy who couldn't be found. Harley just found the guy at his workplace, and threw the paperwork in his lap as he was trying to speed off. The guy gets out, and attempts to smack Harley around. Harley blocks, and bitch-slaps him around. Since Harley was a process server for the court, he was not allowed to do much. Winners: The Kansas City courts (screw the Mountie, Harley always gets his man) and the guy for not feeling the full wrath of Handsome Harley. (thanks to Mario Logan and Harley Race's book)


Harley Race vs. a disrespectful student

This fight came from Harley's World League Wrestling school. When he began, he had a student who was very disrespectful towards him, and wrestling in general. The student used his previous athletic training to take Harley down during a lock-up. The student later brags about all of his achievements, and how he is about to pin this "old man." When he is done, Harley takes him down, and puts him in a cross-face. The student later screams to the "old man" that "Harley is the king! Please let me go!" The student would later leave his school. Don't ever mock this "old man." Winners: Harley's students, who just witnessed a lesson in respect. (thanks to Mario Logan and Harley Race's book)

The Godwins vs. fans

We got this email: "I didn't see this one so I thought I'd leave my memory of it. It was at a RAW taping in Topeka KS two nights after Bad Blood 1997. It was after the Godwins vs LOD match where the Roadies won the straps - I believe this match is on their new DVD. Anyway after the Godwins laid out Cletus (Tony Anthony) they left the ring but one of them, Dennis Knight I believe, got into it with a fan at ringside. They began jawing at each other then they began fighting. The other Godwin got into it and they began swinging at fans at ringside. WWE officials got involved and got them out but it got ugly quick and could of gotten worse. The best and funniest part was afterwards. As they were trying to calm the crowd down, Vince McMahon, Jim Ross and Jerry Lawler were at ringside at the booth. I was ringside just down from them, and Vince loudly exclaimed to Lawler to "get up there" and Lawler reluctantly went up ringside. The King promoted the upcoming dark main event and riled the crowd a little. A ton of crap pelted the ring and someone threw a big beer and it smashed Lawler right on the back of the head. As he left the ring he looked at Vince and said sarcastically 'thanks.'" (thanks to Drew Murphy)

Haku/Meng vs. A Pac-Man machine

Apparently, sometime in the 80s (or possibly the early 90s), Haku/Meng was possibly under the influence of a potent, let's say "exotic coconut beverage," and decided to play a game of Pac-Man. When the game took "both of his quarters," he then went on to totally decimate the machine, much to the dismay of the bar's owner, thus adding another chapter to his legacy of one of the most feared wrestlers/coin-op enthusiasts that's ever lived. (thanks to Jimbo)

Tommy Dreamer vs. Sandman - Updated

Notes from a Johnny Swinger interview. He was asked about the best locker room fight he’d seen in ECW: "In Ft. Lauderdale the Sandman was drunk as usual. He decided to pull his pants down in the middle of the ring. Tommy Dreamer was livid. He was scared we would not be allowed back. There was a huge pull-apart in the locker room with Paul in the middle of it. At one point, Sandman grabbed Dawn Marie’s comb out of her purse and began to comb his pubic hair with it as Tommy was being restrained." (thanks to Bryan Alvarez at Figure 4 Weekly newsletter) UPDATE: We got this email from Brandon: That’s incorrect. It wasn’t in Ft. Lauderdale, it was at Pensacola, FL on June 3rd, 2000 at the Saeger Bayfront Auditorium. I know because I was there front row to witness the madness. I talked with Swinger about it at Wrestlereunion in January in Tampa, FL and he vividly remembered it being in Pensacola. If you want further confirmation, check out the Straight Shootin’ DVD with Raven and Sandman where they talk about him pulling his pants down in Pensacola. Sandman even fell off the guard rail twice doing his entrance. You can also check out New Jack's 2004 shoot interview to hear the same thing about Pensacola. New Jack says something like “We did a show in Pensacola, Florida and Sandman pulled his nuts out; in the ring!” It was actually more between Jack Victory and Sandman anyway because the drunken Sandman caned the **** out of Jack Victory, and Big Sal E Gratziano ended up going in a room with them and standing between them so it didn’t come to blows. Dreamer did have to hold Sandman's **** and balls though so the cops didn’t see it. Swinger mentioned Dreamer was pissed, but Raven has told me Victory was even more pissed off because he got hurt. Either way, thought you might want to know that the location at that story was wrong. I witnessed it live and in person, and have an event poster from the show (although the poster is for the night before, June 2nd, because they didn’t make posters for the June 3rd show.)


Terry Funk vs. a drunk

From Terry Funk's book: While he was in a bar with his wife, a large man asked his wife to dance with him. The large man recognized him as Terry Funk and squeezed his hand. Funk slaps him, and he lets go. The large man grabs a table, and Funk tries to take him down using his pants--Funk accidentally rips his pants off (and his underwear too). Funk responds to this sight by biting his ***. The next day, Funk was sued--he settled for $750. Funk claimed that this was the most expensive piece of *** he has ever had. (thanks to Mario Logan)

Dory Funk Sr. vs. ?

From Terry Funk's book: When Terry was five (and kayfabe was still alive), a man approached him and his brother, interrogating them about whether or not wrestling is fake. Dory Jr. ran to tell their father. Dory returns with Dory Sr. Terry only writes, ". . . and that was one of the first times I remember seeing someone truly getting the **** beaten out of them." Winner: Kayfabe. (thanks to Mario Logan)

Andre the Giant vs. "Barney Fife"

From Bobby Heenan's book: Andre had a bad habit of never buttoning his shirt in public places. One day, Andre and the Brain were in a small country and western bar, when Andre had refused to button his shirt. A bouncer demands that Andre button his shirt now--Andre remained silent and continued to drink. The manager called the police. The officer that arrived reminded Heenan of Barney Fife from The Andy Griffith Show. "Barney" told Andre to button his shirt. Andre still drank quietly. "Barney" called for backup. "Barney" asked that Andre button his shirt again when several officers came in to backup "Barney." Andre stood up, and "Barney" realized that it was just too hot to be indoors. Winner: "Barney," for not finding out what happens to those who anger the giant. (thanks to Mario Logan)


George Hackenschmidt and other wrestlers vs. British boxers (1900's)

George Hackenschmidt and an assortment of wrestlers were touring the UK putting on shows in various halls and arenas . George's tour finally came to Liverpool and its local theater. But the theater's owner didn't want "fake wrestlers" in his hall so he told George's promoter to takes his group and get lost. The promoter promptly told this hall owner were to go so an hour later this theater owner cam back with a mob of local boxers from a nearby gym. The result was a pitch running fist fight which went around the theater and on to the streets of Liverpool. The wrestlers apparently beat the living **** out of the boxers. At one point Mr. Hackenschmit press
slammed the local boxing champ over his head and down a flight of stairs. The end result: Hackenschmit and co. were barred from performing in Liverpool and the boxers got a 5-star arse kicking of a lifetime (thanks to Bashman and PowerSlam magazine)


CM Punk vs. a fan

Got this email: "This one was reported on in the Observer and I was a firsthand witness to it. My friend and I are regular attendees of ROH shows in the NY/NJ/Philly area and all the ECW shows before that going back to the mid nineties. My friend is well known by the local fans as being very vocal. He's not one of those people that heckles all of the wrestlers just for the hell of it, but if he doesn't like a wrestler, he will heckle him relentlessly. One of the wrestlers he happened to dislike was C.M. Punk. He would give Punk hell at every show for months, but the time that put Punk over the edge happened right after the angle where Jimmy Rave and The Embassy tried to scrape off Punk's stomach tattoo with a cheese grater. Now I have to say in my friends
defense, this angle looked totally ridiculous. Rave was down there with the cheese grater for what seemed like 5 minutes and it looked like he was just rubbing his belly. To make matters worse Punk stood up when it was over without so much as a mark on his stomach, and we were all supposed to take this seriously as some heinous assault. Of course the building was dead silent not knowing what to make of this nonsense. My friend, as he is apt to do at times, took advantage of the silence as an opportunity to get up on his chair and loudly let Punk know his thoughts on the angle. He stood up and screamed "ARE YOU BLEEDING YET? NO? THEN WHO THE HELL CARES?" It was then that I saw a look in C.M. Punk's eyes that told me things were about to get interesting. Now I've seen plenty of times where wrestlers would get in the face of my friend at ringside and try to provoke him into doing something physical which he would never do, but the look in Punk's eyes told
me this would not be one of those times. Punk did come down to the guard rail, except he didn't stop there. He went right over the rail and knocked my friend to the floor (my friend is not a big guy). He got down on the
ground and started mushing his face and yelling "DO YOU CARE NOW??". Then he stood up and started putting the boots to him as security ran in and pulled my friend away. I spent the rest of the show trying to convince people that what happened was not a part of the show (my friend was let back in). As for my friend I think he got great satisfaction when C.M. Punk would come back to town so he could stand up and yell "I STILL DONT CARE."" (thanks to Scott)

Stevie Richards vs. Opie & Anthony

Stevie Richards got into a little scuff with radio hosts Opie and Anthony a few years back. Apparently Opie was being a smart *** and Richards started to choke him out. They actually got the incident on video. Here is a link to download: http://www.foundrymusic.com/braincandy/displaymedia.cfm/id/1844 Opie was talking about it and he said that he was just joking around with Richards, but Richards really did choke him. (thanks to Tom)

Ken Patera & Mr. Saito vs. Wisconsin Police - UPDATED

Back in the days of the AWA, Ken Patera and Mr. Saito took on the police force of Waukehsa, WI. If I remember from my youth, the newspapers reported that the two threw a rock or boulder through the door of a McDonalds when they couldn't get food. The police visited the two at their hotel, and a melee ensued. The reports said that the backup units came to find the first squad was unconscious (a female officer) or getting headbutted (her male partner). I can't remember how many squads it took to bring them down, but one of the officers reported hitting Saito in the back of the leg as hard as he could, and Saito looked down and smiled at him. Patera later built an angle around it in the WWF, where he came in as a face ex-Olympian who had found trouble but had reformed. He feuded with Heenan (his AWA manager), saying Heenan abandoned him in a jail cell. (thanks to Dave Erickson) UPDATE: Got this email: Hi there. Just have a detail about the Ken Patera incident with the Wisconsin police. I'm being trained as a referee by a former AWA wrestler who was in the organization at the time it happened. He says that it was not a rock or a boulder that was thrown through the McD's window, it was a one of those parking spot cement blocks that are held to the pavement with steel bolts. Patera ripped the whole thing out of the pavement and chucked the entire cement block through the window. This was the basis of his "World's Strongest Man" gimmick. (thanks to Paul)

Bruno Sammartino vs. Big Bill Miller

Got this email: I ran into Larry Zbysko at my bank and he told me about a shoot fight, which involved Bruno Sammartino and Big Bill Miller. Big Bill was a collegian Big-10 Champion and National AAU Champion, who stood 6'7'' and tipped the scales at 320 pounds. According to Larry, ''Big Bill thought he could wrestle, so he changed levels and shot down on to Bruno's legs, as Bill's head went down Bruno hooked him in a front face lock and nearly decapitate Bill.'' (thanks to Robert)


Johnny Fairplay vs. Ron Niemi- UPDATED

From Figure 4 Weekly: "Everyone hates Jonny Fairplay. Well, that’s not fair, I’m sure he has one or two supporters left in the company. He got into a near-brawl with Florida promoter and TNA gorilla-position man Ron Niemi at the Orlando Ale House last week. Fairplay was shooting off his mouth as he is want to do, Niemi got mad, both were drunk (which, comically, was later used as an excuse to justify this behavior), and Fairplay was asked to leave. He came back and was tossed out again, then tried getting into a fight in the parking lot. Personally, I think I would pay to see a fight between Jonny Fairplay and Ron Niemi. Anyway, the police showed up and had to escort Jonny away, and Niemi was allowed to stay and continue drinking. Fairplay was not at Impact this week, and apparently on last week’s show he cut a horrible promo when challenging the other reality TV stars, so his days may be numbered. How long does it take a person to get a clue?" (thanks to Bryan Alvarez, Starrno, and many others)









Brock Lesnar vs. Bob Holly, 2002- UPDATED

The whole thing started when Holly was told that he would be jobbing to Lesnar. Unlike Steve Austin, who simply walked out on the company when he was told he was going to do the j-o-b to Brock, Holly decided that he was going to teach the rookie a lesson. Holly worked the whole match stiff (which didn't seem to bother Lesnar one bit). When Brock went for a powerbomb, Holly decided to be a dick about it and went dead mid-lift so that Lesnar couldn't get him all the way up. Lesnar decided to show him what's up and just dropped him right on his head. The best part about it is that Lesnar was not punished at all, and from what I understand Vinnie Mac was actually pretty PO'd at what Holly pulled (since Lesnar was being pushed to the moon as an indestructible monster). Not that they would fire Holly, mind you, but the guy was out for a year with his busted neck. It was pretty impressive that Lesnar got a free pass for what he did, and ironically Holly's ******* routine worked in Brock's favor. He got a huge rep from it on TV, because they showed the clip for weeks on end on Smackdown! and pushed Lesnar as a monster for dropping Holly on his head. Try http://rapidshare.de/files/2073890/WWE_-_Brock_Lesnar_Breaks_Hardcore_Hollys_Neck.mpeg.htm l (thanks to Jumpy, George, Grant, Virou, Mike, Parker, Chris, Craig, and Gerard. Whew.)

Ken Timbs vs. a DJ - NEW

This happened at an indy event in Georgia. The late Ken Timbs was on the card. The “DJ” who was providing music during intermission had the volume up a little loud and fans were complaining. Ken’s teenage son turned the volume down, which pissed off the “DJ” and he said a few F bombs to the young man backstage. As fans were watching this, Ken intervened trying to defuse the situation. At one point the ”DJ” punched the younger Timbs, and the senior Timbs did what any father protecting his children would do. There was a BIG headbutt to which the “DJ” went down and a few kicks until it was broken up. The “DJ” took off running and no one saw him again during the show. (thanks to Duane)

Satoru Sayama (Tiger Mask) vs. His Students - NEW

Not really a fight per se, but there has been a video making its way around the internet for a few months now
about a "kung fu teacher beating up his students." It's actually Tiger Mask, sans mask, in the dojo for his fighting style, SHOOTO. A few of his greener students were not doing safe falls right, and an aggravated Sayama barked "Do a fall, damn it!" in Japanese, hitting one in the cheek with a bokuto (Wodden kendo sword), and kicking another square in the gut after he does a spin kick instead of what Sayama asks him. WINNER: Tiger Mask, but then again he had a 40 or 50 pound weight advantage and more than 20 years of experience on these kids, so it was a one-sided battle. (thanks to Maikeru)

A drunken fan vs. A light post - NEW



At a RAW house show in Ft. Wayne, Indiana in 2003, after the show in the parking lot the Dudley Boyz were leaving when a drunk fan came up cussing them out to no end. The Dudleyz at first ignored him, but he wouldn't stop so they put their luggage in the trunk and started in on the guy (who was only separated by an 8-ft high chain length fence. The Dudleyz started a '**** you' and 'you're a fag' chant toward the guy which made him more pissed off, the guy got so mad that he threw a hard right hand onto the nearby street light post ... which had to break his hand because thereafter he took off holding his hand and the Dudleyz got a huge ovation. (thanks to no name given)


Andre The Giant vs. The Ultimate Warrior - NEW

Taken from Bobby Heenan talking about the incident on the Self Destruction of the Ultimate Warrior DVD. This wasn't a fight but Andre just taught the Warrior a lesson at a house show in front of the crowd this took place over 2 or 3 nights before Andre got mad. Andre was going over the match with Warrior and told Warrior do 3 steps then clothesline and Andre would get knocked back and tie himself in the ropes. So the match goes on, they go for the spot, and here comes Warrior 150 mph. The next night it's 220 mph. The next night Andre is fed up so here comes Warrior 350 mph and Andre just puts his fist out and warrior runs full force into it. It knocks the Warrior back next. The next night here comes Warrior 1...2...3....clothesline spot goes off without a hitc. Winner: Andre. (thanks to Andrew Betts)

Eddie Guerrero vs. A fan - UPDATED

From www.obsessedwithwrestling.com: During a house show on 9/27/03, Los Guerreros were wrestling the Bashams. During the match, one of the Bashams whipped Eddie into the guardrail on the outside. While Eddie was down, an older, middle aged fan with grey hair poured an entire cup of beer on Eddie's face. Security
quickly grabbed the guy and began hauling him away, with a big smirk on his face. Eddie jumped straight up, pissed off and rightfully so, jumped over the rail and charged the guy into the hockey boards. The impact pushed back security, and Eddie landed a whole bunch of shots to the guy's head, even punching the glasses off his face. The action stopped in the ring and everyone was looking on. Security managed to haul the guy away before Eddie kicked the crap out of him some more. The crowd was crazy for Eddie at this point. The four guys talked for awhile and then decided to continue to match. Eddie and Chavo showed their professionalism and completed the match. Afterwards, Eddie took the mic and apologized to the Winnipeg fans and to
God for his actions, talking about his past battles with alcohol. The fans kept chanting "Eddie, Eddie" showing their support. Eddie went totally unpunished for this one. Winner: Eddie (He got a free drink out of it) (thanks to Daniel Simpson & Dan F.)


Security vs. A fan - NEW

A reader says: "At the RAW/SmackDown draft back at a RAW in March of 2003, there was a WWE Championship match between Eddie Guererro and HHH (who had just been drafted but was traded right back to RAW). During the match, a fan jumped the railing. He didn't even get into the ring before security tackled him, quite viciously I might add. A security guard ran from the complete other side of the ring at full speed and took him down. I was at this event and wasn't sure if it was a spot or not. The guy was taken by security right near my seat to the backstage area. He was actually crying, from what I remember. I was so excited to have seen this and when I turned on the tape of the RAW, I didn't see the rail-jumper. Turns out the guy decided to pick the worst timing to jump the rail and actually jumped it during a commercial." (thanks to Mike P.)

Johnny Devine (Team Canada) & Andy Douglas (The Naturals) vs. Some thugs - NEW


Not quite sure of the details but but this happened outside a club called the Mix Factory in Nashville. Johnny and Andy both got stabbed during this fight. Johnny got the worst of it, as he got stabbed in the gut and had his gallbladder removed and got stabbed in the leg. (thanks to Andrew Betts)



Security vs. A fan - NEW

A reader says: "I live in England and I was at the first Raw live in the UK at the MEN Arena. A drunk fan who jumped in the ring was stopped just as he was getting in the ring by HBK and I think either Chris Benoit or Edge (face at the time) who held him down so security could escort him out. HBK then posed for the crowd while saying something along the lines of 'don't mess with HBK' or something like that, which the crowd ate up (from Jack T.)

Lanny Poffo vs. Gene Anderson - UPDATED

Taken from a Lanny Poffo interview. Not sure of the source, so if you know, please tell us: "I'll tell you a little incident that happened. When I was working in 1976-77, working for Charlotte, North Carolina, that's why George Scott and I are friends, he was the booker. There was one particular wrestler that used to draw sellout crowds every night no matter who his opponent was. Maybe you've never heard of him... "Nature Boy" Ric Flair. Well they used to run three towns a night, and the town with Ric Flair would always draw a sellout crowd, even if it was the presidential election for Jimmy Carter, even that night, even that Tuesday. And the other two towns, you know Ole Anderson would say, 'How do they expect us to draw with the presidential election?' At the YMCA the next day I said, 'What town were you in? I was in Fayetteville. We had a sellout.' 'Who was on top?' (Ole asked) 'Ric Flair.' (Lanny replied) Case closed. Maybe the polls were closed early that day. So then Ole Anderson used to knock Ric Flair behind his back and then kiss his *** to his face all the time. So he would be holding court in the dressing room making excuses why the Andersons vs. Bravo and Woods weren't drawing again. And he said, 'Well don't forget, Ric Flair entertains them, but we convince them.' And I said, 'How do you convince an empty chair?' And he said, 'How dare you talk to me, in this business? Just for that, we're gonna teach you a lesson tonight.' It was a battle royal, everybody was in the ring. And when the ring was half empty, he got Gene Anderson to try to stretch me. Gene Anderson unbeknownst to me, the late Gene Anderson, got behind me, picked me up in the air, took me down, I did a short sit-out, pinned him, and kept him pinned while Tim Woods and Dino Bravo and my brother are laughing their asses off. And I wouldn't let him up. Now if I were another kind of a person... I liked Gene Anderson... if I were another kind of a person, I would have put a... hold on him and made him submit or die. But instead I just kept him pinned. And everybody was saying... so when I let him up I said, 'Okay Ole, your turn,' and he turned white. He didn't wanna face me. But what I found out was that Gene Anderson was the tougher of the two Andersons. And what they didn't know was that at any weight, even my brother's skinniest weight, that Lanny Poffo was the weakest of the two Poffos." A detailed account is at http://www.pwinsider.com/ViewArticle.asp?id=12524&p=1 (thanks to Dave at
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Retro_Wrestling_Games)


The Hardy Boyz vs. Ron "The Truth" Killings - NEW


In some Charlotte, North Carolina High School in 1989, Ron Killings (Junior) and Matt Hardy (Freshman) were discussing wrestling. As they traded opinions, Ron Killings got pretty pissed when Matt said that he thought Jimmy Snuka was better than Rocky Johnson. Ron basically roughed him up after school one day because of the dislike he got from Matt because of their difference of opinions. Matt later came back at Ron somewhere out of school and egged him on, Ron was pretty much ready to throw another punch, only this time Matt brought his younger brother Jeff with him. The Hardy Boyz got enough blows in to get away unscratched and Ron was never able to do anything to Matt at school with the teachers around. However when K-Kwik made his WWE debut he was very apologetic to Matt about the way he acted in high school. Winners: The Hardy Boyz. (my name is Pete)


Chris Benoit vs. Eddie Guerrero - NEW



Supposedly after their match at ECW One Night Stand, Guerrero was pissed at the finish of their match. Words were exchanged before they both shook hands. WINNER: No one. (thanks to Stephen)



Dick Slater vs. John Matuszak- NEW

This was a bar fight between Slater and famous football player turned actor John Matuszak (Best known as Sloth from the Goonies). We're looking for more info on this. (thanks to Rupert)


Dick Slater vs. Sting, 1986- NEW

This is the infamous fight in which Slater flushed Sting's head down the toilet. We're looking for more info on this one. (thanks to Rupert)




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Re: REAL Backstage Fights Between Wrestlers....An Official List....
 

longest post ever...

Re: REAL Backstage Fights Between Wrestlers....An Official List....
 

Longest and one of the most interesting.

Re: REAL Backstage Fights Between Wrestlers....An Official List....
 

Great post dude. Thanks a lot.

Re: REAL Backstage Fights Between Wrestlers....An Official List....
 

agreed

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Thanx Y'all . . . just contributing to the community.

Re: REAL Backstage Fights Between Wrestlers....An Official List....
 

great read and time killer here at work. I wonder how much of it is true.

Re: REAL Backstage Fights Between Wrestlers....An Official List....
 

Very interesting post, thanks!