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  • dan77733
    Banned
    • Aug 2003
    • 2406

    #1

    More play by play names found - help wanted

    Hey guys, while playing my 2K7 roster with the Cowboys and returning kickoffs with RB Tyson Thompson, I noticed that the commentators would refer to Thompson as Thomason which reminds me of retired TE Jeff Thomason. This annoyed me to no end.

    Anyway, I reset my roster and using the default roster, I used the in-game create a player feature. I typed in the last name first and did this with Thompson. I then checked him in-game and the commentators said Thompson. There's a clear difference between Thompson and Thomason.

    The commentators only said Thompson despite the play by play name being listed as Lamont Thompson in the editor. My guess is that Thompson does exist somewhere in the unknown play by play names. I also checked Arrington and Ware. Both were said by itself in-game which means that both are available somewhere in the unknown play by play names.

    I checked out other unknown play by play names and here's what I found -

    unk6643 - Lamont Walker
    unk6645 - Brandon Warfield
    unk6651 - Weaver (forgot first name)
    unk6653 - Damien West
    unk6642 - Alex Wade

    I have no clue who any of those players are or if they even ever existed. Here's a play by play name that I found who could be used in-game -

    unk5290 - Matt Wilhelm

    I put his name in the play by play index notepad document in Finn's editor and yes, his name is said during the game. Also, his photo is in-game as well. I added his photo to the player and I checked him out in 2K4 and his photo is the same. I'm guessing that a lot of the play by play names and photos were from 2K4. The photo for Wilhelm is unk5290.

    The funny thing is that the play by play name and the photo's are all linked together. They all have the same coding when you look at them in the editor. Wilhelm has the same coding for both the play by play and the photo.

    Anyway, the point of this topic is to find out more play by play names that are hidden in the "unknown" section. Now, there were some that just made the commentators say the jersey number which means that they are worthless but I do think that there are other play by play names that can be used. We just need to find them

    If anyone is looking to help me out, let me know and it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
    Last edited by dan77733; 01-13-2008, 12:49 PM.
  • puja21
    MVP
    • Sep 2005
    • 2732

    #2
    Re: More play by play names found - help wanted

    that's interesting dan-- i remember one time i saw wilhelm's pic online (like ESPN or yahoo) & immediately recognized it from the game....

    eg i remembered it from the draft class where they tweak the skin tone or hair of existing photos to create "generic" photos

    nice find



    also, i bet finn can help us w/ this-- remember how he offered to set the UNK pictures to active? if we asked him, i think he could use his "special editor" & post a file where the UNK photos & matching PBP were already linked to players starting at the beginning w/ the first 49ers player alphabetically & continuing thru the league
    Last edited by puja21; 01-13-2008, 01:28 PM.

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    • dan77733
      Banned
      • Aug 2003
      • 2406

      #3
      Re: More play by play names found - help wanted

      Originally posted by puja21
      that's interesting dan-- i remember one time i saw wilhelm's pic online (like ESPN or yahoo) & immediately recognized it from the game....

      eg i remembered it from the draft class where they tweak the skin tone or hair of existing photos to create "generic" photos

      nice find



      also, i bet finn can help us w/ this-- remember how he offered to set the UNK pictures to active? if we asked him, i think he could use his "special editor" & post a file where the UNK photos & matching PBP were already linked to players starting at the beginning w/ the first 49ers player alphabetically & continuing thru the league
      I checked Wilhelm's photo at nfl.com and it's definitely him. I knew that he wasnt in my 2K7 roster file but I checked your 2K8 roster file and you have him as the starting ILB with a rating of 67. I added his play by play and photo code in the notepad index in the editor's configuration folder and sure enough, it shows up in the list when you select the play by play and the photo in the editor. Wilhelm's photo and play by play were said during gameplay.

      I dont remember Finn saying that he was able to set the UNK photos to "active" but if it's possible to where at the very least, I know what PBP names contain an actual name, I would be able to add them in the notepad index in the configuration folder of the editor. I simply added Wilhelm (as seen below as it appears in the notepad index) by putting his last name first and then his first name and then the code number that makes the game say that set play by play.

      Wilfork, Vince=6658
      Wilhelm, Matt=5290
      Wilkerson, Jimmy=5291

      There's approx. 10,000 UNK play by play names with the missing ones being attached to the players that are listed. I'm sure that there's a lot of the UNK play by play names that are useless but im 90% sure that the last name for players like Ware, Arrington, Thompson, etc. are there somewhere. It's just going to be a pain in the *** to find them all.

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      • puja21
        MVP
        • Sep 2005
        • 2732

        #4
        Re: More play by play names found - help wanted

        i also remember stumbling on another PBP name whenever it was i was trying to find that Wilhelm pic (last spring maybe?). i believe it was "Booker"

        and i will of course help with this during the offseason, dan. hopefully others will too

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        • puja21
          MVP
          • Sep 2005
          • 2732

          #5
          Re: More play by play names found - help wanted

          I dont remember Finn saying that he was able to set the UNK photos to "active"
          i misquoted him actually. this is what finn said:
          Originally posted by FlyingFinn
          I can provide gamesaves with every player in the saves with their photo replaced to an unkXXXX photo.
          so, that helps some just not as much as what i remembered

          it was from that thread about the guy finding pictures for retired players (Cris Carter, Bruce Smith, Rocket Ismail etc):
          http://forums.operationsports.com/vB...d.php?t=232146

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          • Better_Than_You
            Rookie
            • Jan 2005
            • 64

            #6
            Re: More play by play names found - help wanted

            thats a good find.
            i just thought the UNKnumbers were those generated pics for rookies.

            i never played 2k4 but maybe if someone had a look at that game for player pics might see some for players without pics on 2k5.

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            • dan77733
              Banned
              • Aug 2003
              • 2406

              #7
              Re: More play by play names found - help wanted

              Originally posted by puja21
              i also remember stumbling on another PBP name whenever it was i was trying to find that Wilhelm pic (last spring maybe?). i believe it was "Booker"

              and i will of course help with this during the offseason, dan. hopefully others will too
              Thanks puja.

              And 'booker" is in the PBP. As is Rolle, Ware, Arrington, Claridge and others im sure. I found out how to check the PBP name to see if it's in-game. Use the in-game CAP feature to check last names but only type in the last name.

              Leave the first name as "first". Make the CAP a RB because it's faster to check him in-game. I usually put the CAP on kick returns because the commentator will say his name when returning back the kick. If there's a first name attached like there is with the unkPBP, the second commentator will say the full name after the return is over.

              I was hoping Gore was in there but sadly, it isnt. Oh well. And I found another PBP name - Bob Christian which if I remember correctly was the Falcons FB years ago.

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              • puja21
                MVP
                • Sep 2005
                • 2732

                #8
                Re: More play by play names found - help wanted

                good find w/ the leaving the first name blank

                i have a list of "common" names (like booker) that i always felt should logically have been in the last-name only PBP list

                now i can test them all

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                • dan77733
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                  • Aug 2003
                  • 2406

                  #9
                  Re: More play by play names found - help wanted

                  Originally posted by puja21
                  good find w/ the leaving the first name blank

                  i have a list of "common" names (like booker) that i always felt should logically have been in the last-name only PBP list

                  now i can test them all
                  Feel free to post that list and your results.

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                  • steelblutarheel
                    Rookie
                    • Nov 2007
                    • 436

                    #10
                    Re: More play by play names found - help wanted

                    can someone test the game to see if Chris Carter, Bryon Cox, and John Randle are said in the game?

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                    • puja21
                      MVP
                      • Sep 2005
                      • 2732

                      #11
                      Re: More play by play names found - help wanted

                      Originally posted by dan77733
                      Feel free to post that list and your results.
                      definitely

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                      • FlyingFinn
                        MVP
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 3956

                        #12
                        Re: More play by play names found - help wanted

                        This post contains the default roster wilth all the players pointing to unknowns.

                        FirstName = UNK
                        LastName = XXXX (the number)
                        Photo = XXXX
                        PBP = XXX.

                        So for example, Ahmed Plummer for the 49ers is in the first save as

                        FirstName = UNK
                        LastName = 0000
                        Photo = UNK0000
                        PBP = UNK0000

                        File UNK1 goes from UNK0000 to UNK2342.
                        File UNK2 goes from UNK2343 to UNK4761 etc...(You get the idea)

                        Good Hunting!

                        Finn
                        Attached Files

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                        • FlyingFinn
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                          • Jul 2002
                          • 3956

                          #13
                          Re: More play by play names found - help wanted

                          As a side note... if you guys do find photos/PBP's let me know and I will include in the lists that ship with the editor.

                          Thanks,
                          Finn

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                          • puja21
                            MVP
                            • Sep 2005
                            • 2732

                            #14
                            Re: More play by play names found - help wanted

                            Finn,

                            I looked thru the 1st 24 teams (thru STL) in the 1st file & found a handful. posted them in the thread on cyberfaces under the rosters forum

                            during this offseason, i am going to make note of all the UNKs that actually have pictures so you can change any others to "No Photo" or "Blank"

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                            • slapnutz2k2
                              MVP
                              • Apr 2005
                              • 1356

                              #15
                              Re: More play by play names found - help wanted

                              After playing a few games with Finn's UNK rosters, here's what I found. A few names are spelled like they sound to me, so excuse that please. Hopefully I can have some more free time this week to get some more.

                              The last four have pics included for you history roster makers.


                              6609 Larry Stevens
                              6612 Derrick Strong
                              6615 Greg Taplin
                              6621 James Terry
                              6626 Kaylin Thorton
                              6629 Greg Toll
                              6637 Bradlee Van Pelt
                              6655 Que Whittaker
                              6668 Travis Wilson
                              6673 George Wilson
                              6675 Jeff Womble
                              6676 Drew Wood
                              6679 Kevin Worthy
                              6680 Jason Wright
                              6683 Kevin Youngblood
                              6684 Maurice Clarett
                              6685 Brooks Daniels
                              6688 Tyrone Jordan
                              6689 Omar Lawrence
                              6692 Chris Wright
                              7000 Matthew Kelly
                              7005 Charlie Wilson
                              7006 Justin LeBlanc
                              7007 Cedric George
                              7008 Joshua Goodno
                              7009 Felix Brendon
                              7010 Rob Mitchell
                              7013 Matt Maseti
                              7014 Anthony Caparelie
                              7015 John James Daniels
                              7016 Alex Vilawanava
                              7018 Kevin Folic or Polic
                              7019 Jordan Mushad
                              7020 Travis Shirk
                              7021 Johnathan Leevale
                              7022 Zachary Lusickle
                              7023 David Scott Lattimore
                              7024 Nick Johnson
                              7025 Clint Kellen
                              7026 Patrick Bonk
                              7029 Aaron Frye
                              7034 Kenya Mees
                              7035 Ryan Sullivan
                              7037 Tom Truyong
                              7038 Dean Atwa
                              7039 Justin Thomas
                              7040 Shaun Lewis
                              7041 Adam Tardiff
                              7042 Aneka Onkwabu
                              7043 Dave Martins
                              7044 Daniel Douglas Banks
                              7045 Kevin Rosner
                              7048 John Clauss
                              7049 Ben Albright
                              7050 Tracy Axle
                              7055 Jackie Bryant
                              7061 Ronnie Lott
                              7062 Walter Payton
                              7063 Michael Irvin
                              7064 Lawrence Taylor
                              Last edited by slapnutz2k2; 01-27-2008, 08:26 AM.

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