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  • Ruffy
    MVP
    • Feb 2008
    • 1516

    #1

    NCAA ALL THINGS RECRUITING THREAD!!

    I'm having a hell of a time reading through the kazbillion nonsense threads....

    So lets have a thread where all things about recruiting can be discussed...

    Such as...

    ** Recruiting Tips
    ** CPU vs HUM Recruiting
    ** Do's and Dont's (more advice basically)

    For example until we get the gameplay patch (which would be patch #2), I'd like to learn as much about recruiting to make it easier and less time consuming. Which is my major complaint....you spend way too much time recruiting and not enough playing...well for some of us thats an issue and for sure some of us love it.

    When do you quick call? Can you get guys in your state to get interested in you even if they dont have you in their top 10?

    Let's here of some of your guys succes stories and ofcoarse falling short of grabbing that big time recruit!
    Former Bison, Argonaut, TSN and Sportsnet employee.
    Gaming since the days of the NES, Atari and Intellivision.
    Lifelong Hartford Whaler fan.
  • RumbleCard
    MVP
    • Aug 2007
    • 1230

    #2
    Re: NCAA ALL THINGS RECRUITING THREAD!!

    I've made the mistake or at least I think I've made the mistake to continue putting recruiting time into guys who have me ranked 5th but are down to their last 3. I've also had no success at recruiting guys who have me ranked in their top 3 but have a soft commitment somewhere else. Basically if I'm not within their working parameters I move on or concentrate my efforts to the guys who are zero'd in with me.

    I like the quick call. Its pretty much all I use so if you've had better luck doing it manually chim in.
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    • a4reak
      Banned
      • Jul 2006
      • 1093

      #3
      Re: NCAA ALL THINGS RECRUITING THREAD!!

      Quick question, if you hard sell something to someone for say 30 minutes and the pitch complete alert still does not show, if I then stop pitching and hang up will the 30 minutes I spent have an effect on the recruit?

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      • Ruffy
        MVP
        • Feb 2008
        • 1516

        #4
        Re: NCAA ALL THINGS RECRUITING THREAD!!

        I started a dynatsty with Utah State...I like the challenge of being a school where recruiting is definately very hard.

        I need working sliders though as Im 7-1 so far.....the WAC sucks for the most part as my only loss was to Non-conference Oregon....

        So my recruiting should be more sucessful than normal due to winning and becoming bowl eligible...

        So far I have only 1 signing a 2-star G who signed really early...like week 3 or 4 i think.....since then no one....

        I've done a bit of quick call but mostly manually.

        I have a few 3 stars that are in state with not listing me on their top 10 but have no offers from anyone they have listed as their top 10 so im gonna keep spending time on them to see what happens...

        I've been quick calling the guys that have me 1st overall and the next school isnt close on interest. About 10 mins usually.

        I'll let you know as I get further along...but I've mostly gone after 2 stars with a few 3 stars in there.
        Former Bison, Argonaut, TSN and Sportsnet employee.
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        • Ruffy
          MVP
          • Feb 2008
          • 1516

          #5
          Re: NCAA ALL THINGS RECRUITING THREAD!!

          Originally posted by a4reak
          Quick question, if you hard sell something to someone for say 30 minutes and the pitch complete alert still does not show, if I then stop pitching and hang up will the 30 minutes I spent have an effect on the recruit?
          I have no idea...I too would love an OMT answer on that....as to be honest when i call the second that football is grinning ear to ear i stop the pitch and hang up.....if I go to call him and hes already smiling that hard I usually try to sway him on something....
          Former Bison, Argonaut, TSN and Sportsnet employee.
          Gaming since the days of the NES, Atari and Intellivision.
          Lifelong Hartford Whaler fan.

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          • g2thecore
            MVP
            • Jun 2008
            • 1818

            #6
            Re: NCAA ALL THINGS RECRUITING THREAD!!

            Well as always, I feel that it's much easier to pull in 5 star recruits when you're ranked in the top 10 and undefeated. It's also easier to recruit these guys when you've just won the national championship. Overall, my strategy (and it's paid off cuz I got Mr. February) is to concentrate on guys in your state, as well as guys that have a pretty decent level of interest in your program. Once they've had me in their top 3, I quick call around 10-20 minutes on average. I try to manual call the guys that I really want to get and I also spend a lot more time on them as well. Once they've soft verbaled with another team, I remove them from my board. I managed to pull 25 recruits using this method. That includes 6 5 stars and 9 4 stars. I did manage to sign a 5 star recruit that didn't have me on his top 10 list. I just kept manual calling him and when the offseason came I made some promises to him and he signed with me.
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            • marktg30
              Banned
              • Dec 2005
              • 3945

              #7
              Re: NCAA ALL THINGS RECRUITING THREAD!!

              Originally posted by g2thecore
              Well as always, I feel that it's much easier to pull in 5 star recruits when you're ranked in the top 10 and undefeated. It's also easier to recruit these guys when you've just won the national championship. Overall, my strategy (and it's paid off cuz I got Mr. February) is to concentrate on guys in your state, as well as guys that have a pretty decent level of interest in your program. Once they've had me in their top 3, I quick call around 10-20 minutes on average. I try to manual call the guys that I really want to get and I also spend a lot more time on them as well. Once they've soft verbaled with another team, I remove them from my board. I managed to pull 25 recruits using this method. That includes 6 5 stars and 9 4 stars. I did manage to sign a 5 star recruit that didn't have me on his top 10 list. I just kept manual calling him and when the offseason came I made some promises to him and he signed with me.
              Which team are you using? I will be taking a 1-2* team most likely. Might take a job offer if the school fits.

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              • g2thecore
                MVP
                • Jun 2008
                • 1818

                #8
                Re: NCAA ALL THINGS RECRUITING THREAD!!

                Originally posted by marktg30
                Which team are you using? I will be taking a 1-2* team most likely. Might take a job offer if the school fits.
                I'm using Miami. I'm on my second year of Dynasty.
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                • benji4887
                  Rookie
                  • Feb 2006
                  • 126

                  #9
                  Re: NCAA ALL THINGS RECRUITING THREAD!!

                  I find it's best for me to have between 20 and 25 recruits on my list all with scholarship offers. I quick call them whenever I can for between 20 and 30 minutes. I stick to recruiting guys that are interested in me whenever I can. You can occasionally get guys who weren't interested, but it's difficult and usually a waste of time. Having guys visit during the season can be a bit of crap shoot, sometimes if you have a guy visit early you can be in the driver's seat through their whole recruitment or even get them to sign early. Some players seem to like visiting later in the season, and visiting early means another team can swoop in and grab them. Visiting in the off-season, you want to do that as soon as you can. Players do seem to switch after making a soft commit, the only time a player soft committed to another team switch to mine was after I visited them in the off-season. I hope some of this is helpful.
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                  • Ruffy
                    MVP
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 1516

                    #10
                    Re: NCAA ALL THINGS RECRUITING THREAD!!

                    I'd like to hear from more of us that are finding sucess with those bottome feeder 1 and 2 star teams....

                    I'll be advancing a few weeks tonight and see if I can finally start signing more than my one early signee at Utah State.
                    Former Bison, Argonaut, TSN and Sportsnet employee.
                    Gaming since the days of the NES, Atari and Intellivision.
                    Lifelong Hartford Whaler fan.

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                    • JStuckel21
                      Rookie
                      • Jul 2008
                      • 28

                      #11
                      Re: NCAA ALL THINGS RECRUITING THREAD!!

                      When scheduling a campus visit, how can I choose what to do during the player's visit? I remember seeing that feature a few days ago, but now I don't see the option.

                      Example, I could schedule dinner with the coaches when the player came for his visit.

                      Can't find that anymore in my dynasty. Am I missing something?

                      Thanks

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                      • kapo
                        Pro
                        • Jul 2005
                        • 596

                        #12
                        Re: NCAA ALL THINGS RECRUITING THREAD!!

                        Originally posted by JStuckel21
                        When scheduling a campus visit, how can I choose what to do during the player's visit? I remember seeing that feature a few days ago, but now I don't see the option.

                        Example, I could schedule dinner with the coaches when the player came for his visit.

                        Can't find that anymore in my dynasty. Am I missing something?

                        Thanks
                        During the day of his visit when you click on his name in the recruiting board there is an option to set that up.

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                        • blazman
                          Rookie
                          • Jul 2004
                          • 24

                          #13
                          Re: NCAA ALL THINGS RECRUITING THREAD!!

                          Originally posted by JStuckel21
                          When scheduling a campus visit, how can I choose what to do during the player's visit? I remember seeing that feature a few days ago, but now I don't see the option.

                          Example, I could schedule dinner with the coaches when the player came for his visit.

                          Can't find that anymore in my dynasty. Am I missing something?

                          Thanks


                          First, go to your "Recruiting Board" and the game tells you which players are coming in for visits this week. Then, the very first column on the left will have one of the following icons:

                          Phone - Means he's available to talk
                          Clock - He wants to schedule a visit
                          Airplane - He's coming for a visit this week
                          X - Committed elsewhere

                          Click "A" on any of your recruits that have the Airplane icon and one of the options will be to schedule activities for his visit. You can only do this for players that are visiting this week. Also, you call the player, Reschedule the visit for the current week and the list of activities pops up instantly.


                          Anyway, as for recruiting (playing as PSU in my dynasty) I look at not only my current needs, but how many Juniors I have as well since I'll lose at least one of those to the NFL draft. I'll obviously target my immediate needs first then start picking players in a position where I have a few juniors. For needs, I'll sort by Interest and pick those players who are obviously the best and interested in me. I'll also take fliers on a top prospect in a stacked position, even if he has no interest in me (if I don't have too many needs to fill). For example, in Year 2 of my dynasty, I targeted the #1 tackle even though I have 5 freshman tackles. This prospect was from CA and I want to get a pipeline going there, so that is another reason why I selected him (although there are better options for getting a pipeline state going).

                          Also, eventhough I may have the top 4 MLB's interested in me, I actually chose to recruit the #6 MLB as I liked his stats against the pass better. I've found that you can un-earth some 3 star gems this way, especially against the offensive line. I personally will target 3 star prospects who are good in certain areas (I.E. run block for OL) if they have at least an "A" in awareness. I have no proof, but always believed those with an "A" in awareness will progress nicely.

                          Finally, I'll comb through Athletes to fill other holes where I'm having trouble landing a good prospect (you can look at their stats to determine what position fits them best). Fullback always seems to be a need and I am heavily recruiting a 6'8" 305 lb fullback with all C+ / B fullback ratings.

                          I'll issue all my scholarships during the first 2 weeks as this chews up some time. Then, if I have a big lead as a prospect's chosen school, I'll try and get him in early for a visit to wrap it up. If it's a close race between schools, I'll try and be one of the last schools this prospect visits. I personally find that when a prospect is close on choosing a few schools, the school that makes that last impression on a visit usually wins out.

                          I make sure to contact all my recruits each week, even if it's a 5 min quick call. If I have a prospect in the 20's or so who has me #1 and really interested, I'll bump him up to the top 5, spend an hour on the phone and usually sign him that week.

                          Ok this is getting long so I'll leave it at that. Hope this helps.

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                          • newsguy
                            Rookie
                            • Jun 2004
                            • 379

                            #14
                            Re: NCAA ALL THINGS RECRUITING THREAD!!

                            ^ Nice write up, thanks. I have a question more along the lines of post recruiting. This is the first NCAA where I've actually tried my hand at recruiting. I'm playing as FIU and had a great first season. I mostly used quick call and picked up about 2 four star guys. There I was all excited about my great pickups, and when I see their numbers they're both 69's overall!!! Does this sound right? Do these guys get better over time? They're 3rd string guys right now and I can't redshirt them cause I promised them they would play (before I knew they suck).

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                            • Watson
                              Burrow Club
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 27013

                              #15
                              Re: NCAA ALL THINGS RECRUITING THREAD!!

                              if its a 5* or high 4*, i bring them in asap, and it works for me but i geuss its because im LSU and i have a lot of interested prospects
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