NBA 2K9 Video: Lakers vs. Celtics

[HeavenlyTouch]

OS just posted another gameplay video from their beta copy of NBA 2K9. This one features the Lakers vs. Celtics with the slider speed set to 40.

[Goffs]

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yeah i mentioned on the other thread i dont like the slower speed lol

anyway...i still dont like how the players react and move when calling out plays, they still just trot to their positions no running whatsoever...whats the point of calling out plays if they turn into mindless automatons going through the motion...at one point Pierce got lost in the crowd...sheesh

with the smarter AI setting up picks on their own and with much better fluidity (AND SPEED) i dont think calling out plays will be necessary any more...i mean just watching that was gah...just gah...

[jewelz1132]

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It seems a lot slower than the other video..I DID NOT LIKE what Pierce did on one of the final plays..dude just stood there then walked to his place like the shot clock wasnt dying

lol @ Odom catching the ball and not dribbling for the dunk..

[ehh]

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yeah i mentioned on the other thread i dont like the slower speed lol

anyway...i still dont like how the players react and move when calling out plays, they still just trot to their positions no running whatsoever...whats the point of calling out plays if they turn into mindless automatons going through the motion...at one point Pierce got lost in the crowd...sheesh

with the smarter AI setting up picks on their own and with much better fluidity (AND SPEED) i dont think calling out plays will be necessary any more...i mean just watching that was gah...just gah...

This is by far my biggest problem with 2K these days. I want to do something on offense besides pick-n-roll and isolation stuff. These plays are practically useless because of how the offensive players run (or walk, lol) through them. The last play where Pierce was coming from the block to the top of the key of a screen was just terrible, he was literally walking up there.

I'm disappointed they didn't correct this at all from last year.

[Nodima]

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Didn't look as good at a slower pace TBH. That Pierce play at the end is going to catch a lot of flak here I bet.

I agree plays might not need to be called so oten - did whoever was playing at least SEE how open Pierce got off a screen early in the video (Allen gets a little less open off another screen a few seconds later to drain a 3). I'm going to be thanking the A.I. for getting open so much more than I used to if that play was any indication.

[23bluesman]

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I thought that the speed of the Suns-Nuggets vid was a bit too fast, but this seems too slow for me. Also, is it just me, or did the speed of the ball after shots get slower too?

[DC]

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I like this speed better than that other NBA Jam nonsense shown the past few days

Did anyone notice Bynum (CPU) checking PP at the top of the key and then Kobe switching back on PP when they saw that PP wasn't going to attack the rim. Nice move CPU

[Mintsa]

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yeah i mentioned on the other thread i dont like the slower speed lol

anyway...i still dont like how the players react and move when calling out plays, they still just trot to their positions no running whatsoever...whats the point of calling out plays if they turn into mindless automatons going through the motion...at one point Pierce got lost in the crowd...sheesh

with the smarter AI setting up picks on their own and with much better fluidity (AND SPEED) i dont think calling out plays will be necessary any more...i mean just watching that was gah...just gah...

I have to agree with you on this. Players have to cut hard and run to spots, not walk. The play ran for PP at the end was worthless. I would never use that. PP has to flash to that spot ans take the open J. Thats the one thing that stands out in Live 09 for me. In the Live demo when I run a play for "Kobe to get open" he cuts and runs hard to get open for the shot. It makes you want to run more plays.

[jewelz1132]

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I like this speed better than that other NBA Jam nonsense shown the past few days

Did anyone notice Bynum (CPU) checking PP at the top of the key and then Kobe switching back on PP when they saw that PP wasn't going to attack the rim. Nice move CPU

yeah I like the speed better but it just looks wierd on rebounds and passing..the switching was dope but dont let the CPU do that to me lol

[Goffs]

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This is by far my biggest problem with 2K these days. I want to do something on offense besides pick-n-roll and isolation stuff. These plays are practically useless because of how the offensive players run (or walk, lol) through them. The last play where Pierce was coming from the block to the top of the key of a screen was just terrible, he was literally walking up there.

I'm disappointed they didn't correct this at all from last year.

i agree...though in the other vids you can clearly see the cpu players setting up screens for each other and players RUNNING to get open and all that without calling a play...

i was hoping that calling a play would be the same result...im disappointed that its not

[bateman11]

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Defenders move soo fast. I really hoped they would fix this.

[SageInfinite]

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I agree with everybody here. Live looks more realistic when running plays. The way the players interact and move around makes 2k look a little robotic and less organic. Can't wait to get my hands on this game tho. The gameplay videos never do the game any justice. You have to see and feel this game 1st hand. I don't know why people expect to be wow'd by gameplay videos of 2k. It's never wow'd me with gameplay videos. ou have to experience it.

[TMagic]

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Jeez, you guys are really making it sound like 2K is gonna be a let down.

I haven't watched any videos at all, so I just have to go by what some of you are saying.

I was really excited about this game. But, since these videos have been released, my excitement has dropped a tad.

So are you guys disappointed?

Or is does the game really look great, and it's just nitpicking that is being done?

[ehh]

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Jeez, you guys are really making it sound like 2K is gonna be a let down.

I haven't watched any videos at all, so I just have to go by what some of you are saying.

I was really excited about this game. But, since these videos have been released, my excitement has dropped a tad.

So are you guys disappointed?

Or is does the game really look great, and it's just nitpicking that is being done?

For the whole game, no I won't be disappointed. I don't lose sight of the the fact that 2K basketball is as good of a sport game as there is. The animations and sig styles are the best of any game out there. I'm sure I'll enjoy the game but I don't know if I'll be obsessed with it and play it for months on end.

I'm different than most people in that one of my top priorities now is a different system of running plays in a basketball game. For years it's been pick and roll and isolation plays and it's grown really stale as of late. That's why I loved CH2K8 because you could create your own plays but that game suffered the same problem, too many times a guy would walk through the motions of a certain play.

I mean, after playing 2K8 and watching this video, if you're down two with :15 seconds left in the game are you going to trust yourself to call one of those plays? Knowing that it might take more than :15 seconds to run because the guys are going through it so slowly? Or that a player will go through it so slowly we won't create separation from his defender for a good shot? No, you're going to iso or pick and roll because you know it works.

[Po Pimp]

Re: NBA 2k9 : Lakers vs Celtics (user vs cpu)

Jeez, you guys are really making it sound like 2K is gonna be a let down.

I haven't watched any videos at all, so I just have to go by what some of you are saying.

I was really excited about this game. But, since these videos have been released, my excitement has dropped a tad.

So are you guys disappointed?

Or is does the game really look great, and it's just nitpicking that is being done?

Its not that the video looks BAD...its just that people were expecting a lot more. Some things have definitely improved, but some of the 2k8 issues are still present. Personally, I don't like the fact that they still showed replays during the game and not exclusively dead ball situations. I know in the Rockets/Hornets video, those replays were absent, so I don't know. Maybe its because its a Beta version, maybe its because the replay tab was set to frequent...who knows?