Has Nash's window with the Suns closed?

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I happen to think so.

I dont know who you can accredit the final dagger but I do agree with something JA Adande said. They dont do anything well anymore. They dont outhustle, they dont out defend, they dont shoot better, they dont run better than anyone to the point where they stand out in any category.

I know some will blame Kerr in the Marion deal, but I do disagree with that because Marion wasn't the breaking factor. Porter may also have alot to do with how funky they look. Its not that they lose games but the manner of the loses are pretty telling.

At some point your team has to evolve. If it doesn't you stagnate or fall behind... which leads me to one thing

Robert Sarver. The guy penny pinched and traded high 1st round draft picks and players for dough in his pocketbook. Instead of having Andre Igoudala on his team he now has to make due with Matt Barnes and a lack of real depth.

Whats your thoughts on the Suns

[BunnyHardaway]

Re: Has Nash's window with the Suns closed?

They traded the rights to Luol Deng, Rajon Rondo, and Nate Robinson for basically nothing. Stupidity caused this.

[Taur3asi3]

Re: Has Nash's window with the Suns closed?

They traded 2 1sts and Kurt Thomas for a 2nd

[Stumbleweed]

Re: Has Nash's window with the Suns closed?

Yeah, Nash needs to get out of there and play in another up-tempo team that has a shot at a title. Him in LA or somewhere like that would be absolutely nutty. He can't play in this slowed down offense, it totally ruins all the good things about his game when they're running halfcourt sets.

Phoenix closed their own window, but yes, I think it's closed. Amare and/or Nash need to get out while they can or the team needs to change philosophies once again and get back to running and make Shaq a secondary focus off the bench or something. No easy solutions for them right now.

[ex carrabba fan]

Re: Has Nash's window with the Suns closed?

Uhh, yes, he is done. He looked like he was slowing down last year in the playoffs. He no longer has that never ending motor, that extra bounce off the pick and roll, that dashing/penetrating ability that CP3 has..

With that said, the two-three year run he had with Matrix, Amare, D'Antoni.. I totally validate his back to back MVP's. Nash was what CP3 is today.

He looks a couple steps slower now. Without his perfect complement in Matrix [and now with a halfcourt player in Shaq] things look too cluttered and the run and gun/spread the floor for Bell, Tim Thomas, Q, for 3's are now just a fond memory.

EVEN IF THEY HAD MATRIX THIS YEAR THEY WOULD STILL PROBABLY NOT BE A TITLE CONTENDER. So don't blame it all on management.

[23]

Re: Has Nash's window with the Suns closed?

I think Nash's enthusiams as a whole is gone and that's why he's slower in a sense. Yes he's not a spring chicken but it matters when you feel like you're actually making progress. They looked just as dead internally before the Shaq trade.

Porter is absolutely sucking as a coach right now... Amare want's the be the man, and the offense still falls apart when Nash is out. A terrible thing to rely on one guy to do everything. I remember him talking about playing for another team this past summer when his deal is up. He should be looking for that windown becuase Sarver completely botched up what could've been a contending team to this day.

[youvalss]

Re: Has Nash's window with the Suns closed?

We'll see on Feb 24th...

[RAZRr1275]

Re: Has Nash's window with the Suns closed?

Uhh, yes, he is done. He looked like he was slowing down last year in the playoffs. He no longer has that never ending motor, that extra bounce off the pick and roll, that dashing/penetrating ability that CP3 has..

With that said, the two-three year run he had with Matrix, Amare, D'Antoni.. I totally validate his back to back MVP's. Nash was what CP3 is today.

He looks a couple steps slower now. Without his perfect complement in Matrix [and now with a halfcourt player in Shaq] things look too cluttered and the run and gun/spread the floor for Bell, Tim Thomas, Q, for 3's are now just a fond memory.

EVEN IF THEY HAD MATRIX THIS YEAR THEY WOULD STILL PROBABLY NOT BE A TITLE CONTENDER. So don't blame it all on management.

I remember those days when Nash was in his prime with STAT, Matrix, Bell, Tim Thomas, Q, and Joe Johnson. That was awesome

[TheMatrix31]

Re: Has Nash's window with the Suns closed?

You people do NOT want my thoughts on the Phoenix Suns.

[RAZRr1275]

Re: Has Nash's window with the Suns closed?

You people do NOT want my thoughts on the Phoenix Suns.

As a Suns fan I want to know what you think about their current state.

[SPTO]

Re: Has Nash's window with the Suns closed?

Personally I think it's because the Suns are playing a halfcourt game. They should've tried trading Nash in the offseason and start with a clean slate. Nash is truly the last guy that represents the run n' gun Suns of a few years ago. I think he's lost his enthusiasm but age also plays a factor and he's slowed down.

The guy is also being beset with little injuries and such which has a long term effect. I think he needs a change of scenery IMO.

[TheMatrix31]

Re: Has Nash's window with the Suns closed?

As a Suns fan I want to know what you think about their current state.

They don't have a state. Seriously.

[Jukeman]

Re: Has Nash's window with the Suns closed?

If the suns pick up his option after the season, do y'all see Nash in a knicks uniform in 2010??? If not lebron and bosh(which I think won't happen) will Nash, Joe Johnson and amare seem realistic?

[Fiasco West]

Re: Has Nash's window with the Suns closed?

Yeah, that window is closed. I do remember them trading those picks away for extra cash, I never got it then and still don't now.

I also think 3 of their best players don't want to play there anymore. Nash, Amare, and Shaq. I think these 3 guys will be gone by 2010 so it may be time to rebuild. Amare can still be saved...but he seems like the guy that would bolt for a chance to play for a bigger market and a huge contract.

[sunsfolife]

Re: Has Nash's window with the Suns closed?

It pains me to say it but yes, the spark is over, finish. Nash can't produce good numbers in Porters system. So Sarver is just one evil dude. I remember the days of JJ and Q. That was the best basketball to watch then it went downhill. I really hope the Suns can rebuild a solid team within the next 2-4 years. First thing that needs to be kicked out is Sarver[we'll find some way], Kerr and Porter.