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  • Hammerhunker
    MVP
    • Mar 2003
    • 3006

    #1

    Envious

    I sure wish I could be as passionate about this game as so many of you on here. I literally get a headache everytime I try to play this game because of its slowness, cumbersomeness, and unrealistic results. This game was my last hope since Madden and NCAA disappointed me to no end. I can see how this game "could" be dynamic but it just falls short. I wish I knew what everyone does to make this game as special as they make it out to be.

    I'm not a trollin, just wanting some inspiration.
  • claystone
    Banned
    • Jun 2008
    • 1407

    #2
    Re: Envious

    Originally posted by Hammerhunker
    I sure wish I could be as passionate about this game as so many of you on here. I literally get a headache everytime I try to play this game because of its slowness, cumbersomeness, and unrealistic results. This game was my last hope since Madden and NCAA disappointed me to no end. I can see how this game "could" be dynamic but it just falls short. I wish I knew what everyone does to make this game as special as they make it out to be.

    I'm not a trollin, just wanting some inspiration.

    Hammer, I hear you man.

    I came back to HC and gave it one more chance. There are some things that really bug me, like:
    • My DC not calling the right personnel when on defense.
    • OL is always cutting DL down on pass plays.
    • My OC calls the same 4 plays over and over, and over.
    • CPU opponent doesn't sub their players.
    What I did was set the sliders to 40/40 to take the edge off the players. When on default players are on steriods, especially the LB's. Players are herky, jerky in their movements. By setting the sliders at 40/40, except RBA 45/45 and INT 48/48, it smooths out the game alittle.

    Check out my Franchise thread (Detroit Lions) and see the game stats. Let me know what you think.

    I've been going back and forth with HC and ESPN2K5 with a franchise.

    I hope this helps.
    Last edited by claystone; 01-03-2009, 01:43 PM.

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    • Obelysk
      Pro
      • Oct 2008
      • 614

      #3
      Re: Envious

      Yeah this game is broken, i have 2 franchises and now I can't play either one because one always freezes right before I am about to play the Colts. I am not sure why it freezes but it does it every single time and I am not sure why. Than I can't play the other one because some time during the game it will tell me that it can't read the disk. sigh
      *ห™วษŸฤฑืŸ ษนnoสŽ ษŸo spuoษ”วs วสŒฤฑษŸ ส‡soืŸ ส‡snษพ วสŒษษฅ noสŽ ส‡ษษฅส‡ สŽษs oส‡ สŽษนษนos ษฏษ ฤฑ sฤฑษฅส‡ pษวษน noสŽ ษŸฤฑ

      *Actual time may vary.

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      • DougSupreme
        Rookie
        • Jan 2006
        • 209

        #4
        Re: Envious

        I heard that the game runs a lot faster/smoother if you install the game to your HD.

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        • steelraccoon
          Rookie
          • Aug 2008
          • 100

          #5
          Re: Envious

          Originally posted by Hammerhunker
          I sure wish I could be as passionate about this game as so many of you on here. I literally get a headache everytime I try to play this game because of its slowness, cumbersomeness, and unrealistic results. This game was my last hope since Madden and NCAA disappointed me to no end. I can see how this game "could" be dynamic but it just falls short. I wish I knew what everyone does to make this game as special as they make it out to be.

          I'm not a trollin, just wanting some inspiration.
          Slowness is resolved with a simple install of the game to your Xbox HD. The interface is cumbersome, yes, but it is no where near as bad as some games I have played.

          Unrealistic results... hell, that's just football dude. I mean, think of how many crazy *** games we have seen this season alone! If u actually sit down before u play your career and come up with what type of schemes u wanna run (Vertical Passing, West Coast, Run Heavy, Blitzing, Zone Coverage, etc) then u can tailor your team for your play style and make the best of the game.

          Does it have short comings.... no arguements there.. but for all the holes in it there is still a beautiful game that I have enjoyed for the past 4 to 5 months and continue to enjoy.

          My advice... Try out a career with the Lions, Dolphins or Falcons and see if u can do better or improve on what they did this season.

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          • Hammerhunker
            MVP
            • Mar 2003
            • 3006

            #6
            Re: Envious

            Unrealistic...here is an example that has happened to me: 6 straight holding calls on a punt. Went from 4th and 5 to 4th and 54 before I shut the dang thing off.

            As far as downloading to the harddrive, I have a PS3, and I don't think I can do that...or can I? The slowness problem for me is the ticker being about 2 plays behind.

            Thanks so far for the suggestions. I will try it again because I am a fool for football...and it is snowing...and the first playoff game doesn't start for a couple of more hours

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            • bkrich83
              Old Guy
              • Jul 2002
              • 71551

              #7
              Re: Envious

              Originally posted by Hammerhunker
              Unrealistic...here is an example that has happened to me: 6 straight holding calls on a punt. Went from 4th and 5 to 4th and 54 before I shut the dang thing off.

              As far as downloading to the harddrive, I have a PS3, and I don't think I can do that...or can I? The slowness problem for me is the ticker being about 2 plays behind.

              Thanks so far for the suggestions. I will try it again because I am a fool for football...and it is snowing...and the first playoff game doesn't start for a couple of more hours
              I have never seen anything like 6 straight holding calls or anything like that.

              My results have all been within believable ranges and I've had a blast with the game. To each their own however.

              It sucks the PS3 doesn't have the install to HD option. It really has made the game a lot less cumbersome, and faster to play.
              Tracking my NCAA Coach Career

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              • Obelysk
                Pro
                • Oct 2008
                • 614

                #8
                Re: Envious

                Originally posted by DougSupreme
                I heard that the game runs a lot faster/smoother if you install the game to your HD.
                I have it installed on my hard drive and it still freezes or can't "read the disk" during like 2 or 3rd quarter.
                *ห™วษŸฤฑืŸ ษนnoสŽ ษŸo spuoษ”วs วสŒฤฑษŸ ส‡soืŸ ส‡snษพ วสŒษษฅ noสŽ ส‡ษษฅส‡ สŽษs oส‡ สŽษนษนos ษฏษ ฤฑ sฤฑษฅส‡ pษวษน noสŽ ษŸฤฑ

                *Actual time may vary.

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                • bkrich83
                  Old Guy
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 71551

                  #9
                  Re: Envious

                  Originally posted by Obelysk
                  I have it installed on my hard drive and it still freezes or can't "read the disk" during like 2 or 3rd quarter.
                  Bummer. That does suck. Not a single freeze for me.
                  Tracking my NCAA Coach Career

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                  • firktaf
                    Rookie
                    • May 2006
                    • 332

                    #10
                    Re: Envious

                    Originally posted by Obelysk
                    I have it installed on my hard drive and it still freezes or can't "read the disk" during like 2 or 3rd quarter.
                    Just to make sure, are you pressing Y and selecting "Play from Hard Drive"? I think if you just start up the game like one that you don't have installed on the HDD, then it will just play from the disc. There's no reason for you to get a disc read error when the disc is only needed for verification of ownership so that's why I suspect this.
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                    • stoncold32
                      MVP
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 3595

                      #11
                      Re: Envious

                      I'm with the threadstarer. I can't keep up with this game because the ticker is so far behind, the runs are choppy at best.

                      I'd rather have terrible graphics and a smooth running game rather than what we have.

                      I love stuff like coaching and preparing teams, players, etc. but this game is unplayable. I bought it for $10 bucks and I dont even think I cant get past halftime without being deathly bored.

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                      • Hammerhunker
                        MVP
                        • Mar 2003
                        • 3006

                        #12
                        Re: Envious

                        Originally posted by stoncold32
                        I'm with the threadstarer. I can't keep up with this game because the ticker is so far behind, the runs are choppy at best.

                        I'd rather have terrible graphics and a smooth running game rather than what we have.

                        I love stuff like coaching and preparing teams, players, etc. but this game is unplayable. I bought it for $10 bucks and I dont even think I cant get past halftime without being deathly bored.
                        Feel good about the fact that you paid $10, as I paid much more.

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                        • GGKoul
                          Rookie
                          • Jun 2003
                          • 64

                          #13
                          Re: Envious

                          I've never had a freeze issue with head coach and I've been playing it pretty much every day since August and I'm almost done my first 15 year season and looking forward to starting another career.

                          Yes there is steep leaving curve and yes the game can get too easy and yes there are some faults. Name me a game that doesn't have its faults or a game that satisfies everybody. But for me, there is no better football game or GAME out there.

                          And I keep on trying to move on to play another games like Fable 2, Crackdown, End War, NHL 09 or FIFA09. But I keep on coming back to HC... And its been a long time that a game has captured my interest as much as HC.

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                          • GGKoul
                            Rookie
                            • Jun 2003
                            • 64

                            #14
                            Re: Envious

                            Originally posted by stoncold32
                            I'm with the threadstarer. I can't keep up with this game because the ticker is so far behind, the runs are choppy at best.

                            I'd rather have terrible graphics and a smooth running game rather than what we have.

                            I love stuff like coaching and preparing teams, players, etc. but this game is unplayable. I bought it for $10 bucks and I dont even think I cant get past halftime without being deathly bored.
                            I some what agree.. the playing the game can get boring and I find it too easy. That's why I sim the season games but do the weekly stuff and play the playoff games.

                            I technically paid more for the game since I got it as part of the Madden collectors edition. And I'm kind of pissed I paid for Madden CE since I played Madden probably 5 times and its been collecting dust ever since and I can't trade it in since HC is packaged with it...

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                            • R1zzo23
                              Cupcake Coach
                              • Jul 2005
                              • 5679

                              #15
                              Re: Envious

                              Originally posted by GGKoul
                              And I keep on trying to move on to play another games like Fable 2
                              I got both these games for Christmas. I have put a single hour into Fable 2 and haven't had the heart to pop it back in as it would take time away from HC. I'm sure some day I'll get to Fable 2, but right now, especially with the playoffs on this weekend, it's HC all day.

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