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rwk2009 03-09-2009 12:31 AM

Make speed just like kick power!!
 
I hate getting at least one 99 speed player every year, it should be something special. We are in the 2024 season and we have so many fast players, but a strong leg on a kicker is 90, really strong is 94, and we've never even seen a recruit come in with higher then 97. Why can't speed be like this? If one recruit in 10 seasons has 99 speed, I would be scared to play against that guy!

Speed should be special in the game, 99 shouldn't be a common thing.

There's my gripe.

All-Vol 03-09-2009 11:19 AM

Re: Make speed just like kick power!!
 
I agree.

I also miss the old "scout prospect" feature. The listed 40 times usually weren't accurate (like real life). You could choose not to scout them if you wanted to ignore numbers.

jbdeuce 03-09-2009 01:26 PM

Re: Make speed just like kick power!!
 
I agree with your reasoning but that can't happen in the game. Trindon Holiday, Percy Harvin, Jeff Demps, Chris Rainey, Joe McKnight and the rest of the 4.4, 4.3 40 kids are all spd freaks. What you can't have in the game (which is what I think you are talking about) is so many good players that have 97-99 spd. All track guys are not football players...meaning...just because the recruit has 99 spd doesn't mean he should automatically be able to cover, catch, break takles, etc. That type of player would only be a KR or PR cuz all he can do is run. lol

All-Vol 03-09-2009 03:33 PM

Re: Make speed just like kick power!!
 
99 speed should not be 4.16


Deon Sanders MAYBE ran that time once in his life. After 5 seasons in dynasty there are probably 15 players with 99speed in the game. That is just not realistic considering your DEs and MLBs are still running 4.5 at best.

rwk2009 03-09-2009 04:36 PM

Re: Make speed just like kick power!!
 
Harvin & Holliday aren't even 99 speed. Make the fast players between 90-94 speed, but anything above that should be truly special.

99 Speed should come around once a decade, not 4 times a season.

Colorado Cooler 03-09-2009 05:36 PM

Re: Make speed just like kick power!!
 
There is a huge misconception about speed among college fans and straight-ahead 40 speed is way overrated. Most of us believe that players are faster than they really are. Many of the player 40 times posted on Rivals and Scout recruiting sites are self-reported and not verified. Only four WRs (out of 36) ran under 4.4 at the NFL Combine in Indy and only two corners broke 4.5 RBs Javon Ringer of MSU was clocked at 4.6 and Shonn Green was 4.66. Vontae Davis of Illinois who was oft cited by Big Ten receivers as the toughest corner to play against ran a modest 4.49 but logged a ton of reps in the bench press. College playmakers often possess a combination of strength, acceleration, agility, and awareness that makes them great. Unfortunately, that kind of athleticism is tough for EA to replicate. In lieu of athleticism, speed dominates the game.

rwk2009 03-09-2009 06:03 PM

Re: Make speed just like kick power!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Colorado Cooler (Post 2039283060)
There is a huge misconception about speed among college fans and straight-ahead 40 speed is way overrated. Most of us believe that players are faster than they really are. Many of the player 40 times posted on Rivals and Scout recruiting sites are self-reported and not verified. Only four WRs (out of 36) ran under 4.4 at the NFL Combine in Indy and only two corners broke 4.5 RBs Javon Ringer of MSU was clocked at 4.6 and Shonn Green was 4.66. Vontae Davis of Illinois who was oft cited by Big Ten receivers as the toughest corner to play against ran a modest 4.49 but logged a ton of reps in the bench press. College playmakers often possess a combination of strength, acceleration, agility, and awareness that makes them great. Unfortunately, that kind of athleticism is tough for EA to replicate. In lieu of athleticism, speed dominates the game.


Exactly! Speed kills, and it should be a big time difference maker, but it shouldn't be the difference maker. We created a WR from some town in Tennessee because a guy in our online dynasty uses wr speed like no other, so we gave the guy 99 speed, but catching, catch in traffic, and spectacular catch all in the 40's, but this guy still had 10 touchdowns as the third wideout last year. Make things matter other then speed.

Biodawg03 03-09-2009 08:02 PM

Re: Make speed just like kick power!!
 
I agree... it definitly gets old after a few years of recruiting when you basically figure out that all you need to do is recruit 2* players with fast 40 times to have a dominant passing game.

I am hopeful that the remarks regarding a scaling down of the ratings in Madden will follow suit in NCAA.

You mention Percy Harvin as a guy that "needs" to be 99 speed... he wasn't even the fastest WR at the combine... he ran something like a 4.41.

I think Ted Ginn was another guy that "had" to have 99 speed (4.38 40 at teh combine)... and yet Isaiah Stanback from UW ran a similar 100m time (10.4) and 40 time (4.42) and he was a QB that had 87 or 89 speed. I totally agree that 94 should be a stud speedster and 99 should be a Green Sanders like guy that is truely once in a generation fast.


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