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This is a good thing.

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I agree 100% ... hated wasting my gaming time on those events, especially bench press/40 yd dash! If I have to do training I'd much rather have it focus on more of a in-game style of training.

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"You can't teach speed."

Acceleration, however, you can teach with proper footwork and such.

I think there needs to be a "wrok ethic" type or ratting that will alter how slowely a player degrades with age and maybe how much faster he improves when younger. Jery Rice, Marshal Faulk, Emmit Smith are good examples of past players who work hard phisically. Peyton Manning and Joseph Adai are great examples of player who alo work really hard on film and game plan. Manning talked about Adai's rookie year where he would ask so many questions and get invovled in the scheem and how this GREATLY improved his performance. I'm a Pats fan and I hate the Colts, but i respect the hell out of them and really like to see solid competition.

I don't know how you would be able to properly rate some ones work ethic though. Owens does work very hard. Steve Young talks about how he would work as hard as Jerry Rice. The difference with TO is he doesn't have the composure or the class of Jerry Rice. When the chips are down who would you want to throw to? Regardless he shouldn't have poor work ethic.

I thikn very few players should have a high work ethic, but most of them should all already be stars because of it. i think that having a medium work ethic range should just keep you from down grading and not improving SUPER fast like in madden 06-8 with the 3x season progressions. [I loved the feature, but average stats and a winning record made my team super duper when it shouldn't].

In regards to the draft players should mostly have a standard work ethic, however some may be projected low round draft choices but have a high ethic and top ends should some times have low ethic. This was top picks can become busts because of low ethic and low end "steals" like Brady and Owens and *the guy from the Saints* and Josh Morgan of the 49ers and such can all improve faster as rookies becasue of this, as long as they are paired with solid stats.

I have no idea if this would be posible, but I would love it.

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Good points! I like the idea of pre-season camps to enhance some younger players attributes, but I would not miss the weekly training at all. I also prefer teh previous style where based on your training performance you are allotted a certain number of points and you get to choose which attribute you want to increase.

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That would be great if they got rid of the training sessions, players dont train to get faster during the season and most players speed doesnt change from college to the pros. (ex. Randy Moss was outrunning defenses in college as he does in the pros, Devin Hester just as explosive in returns as he was a the U.)

What I would like to see is players who after 3 seasons only get better with on field performance. Which means if you want a player to be better at play recognition and awareness he has to be on the field you can't continue to get better at those areas if you don't get playing time.

For rookies their progression should be based off of a mix between onfield performance, position coach ratings and veteran leadership at their position.

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No more Mini-games = Good Thing :wink:

I do like the gains linked with coaches idea; but not completely.

Players can gain speed but it is usually combined with weight loss and in larger players if it is anything significant.

• It isn't typical a WR or DB is going to gain much speed. But a LB, DL, OL, or RB can by loosing wight but there will typically be losses some place else like strength. Look at the end of Warren Sapp's career, he lost a lot of wieght and gained some speed and it really helped helped him out.

There definately shoud be a cap on base ratings (strength, speed, agility, etc.) gains.

• You aren't goint to see and WR with 99 strength out there. Like can you see Devin Hester benching more then an OL? I don't think so. Or the reverse no LB is going to out run Hester, no matter how much they train it just is not going to happen.

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AWR and Play recognition can improve without playing. I do not know how many QBs out there would have been ruined if they didn't improve off field before being put into the game. Matt Hassleback comes to mind as an example.

Some player MUST mature off field in order to get good especially in AWR (this includes play book knowledge) and play recognition (this is done by reivewing game tapes) happens all the time. It isn't like they aren't practicing with other NFL players on their time live in practice. That is crucial for young players to develop and some need more time then other to develop before the are put in game.

But I am not opposed to have a limit as to how high it can get off field maybe 75-80 or something like that. But if a player starts at 45 it would be hard to improve in a game situation without your teams really paying for it.

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I agree with Ian on this. Don't get me wrong, the drills can be entertaining at times. But during Franchise Mode they're far too tedious, and some of them are damn near impossible/pointless. They're also time consuming and annoying because you have to do it before every game you play.

My proposal is a legacy-gen style Training Camp before the pre-season (allow rookies to be used in Training Camp). And progression at least twice during the regular season, and maybe twice during the postseason.