The main reason why a Play Creator is desperately Needed

**KANE699** · 05-30-2009, 10:52 AM

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PS if it isn't in Madden 10 right now, it won't be in at launch.

PS PS I don't tend to have much lag if any in most online games, if the game is laggy we just friendly quit.

**Carolina Panthers** · 05-30-2009, 10:59 AM

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play buddys who have good connection....i want it in so i can create plays that i see my panthers run

**kwas676** · 05-30-2009, 11:04 AM

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Originally posted by KANE699

PS if it isn't in Madden 10 right now, it won't be in at launch.

PS PS I don't tend to have much lag if any in most online games, if the game is laggy we just friendly quit.

I never really had lag in madden proable once in a blue moon the only sports game I really had bad lag was nba 2k9.

**Pro Bowler** · 05-30-2009, 11:08 AM

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I got a real bad feeling were not getting a play editor and if we do it will be like HC where you could transfer the plays to Madden but couldn't use them online, which makes it useless imo.

They already said they couldn't include defensive shell assignments because it practically involves re-writing the whole game code. So i got zero hope in this feature even though it's probably the single most thing they could do to improve the replay value.

Online franchise is great in theory but will fail miserabley as far as being practical. People for the most part will just drop out and quit playing. Never seen a game with this feature where this didn't happen.

Online Co-op will introduce a whole new level of cheesing, mark my words. Imagine 2 cheesers doing nothing but labbing for exploits, it's going to be a nightmare.

My buying rests soley on the addition of a play creator and i just don't see it happening. I'm perfectly fine playing the "other game" which wipes the floor with Madden in the gameplay department and a play creator is the only thing that would make me consider a purchase.

**apexbronx** · 05-30-2009, 11:09 AM

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don't get me wrong I got high speed cable, but offline is always more responsive then online for any game.

**PantherBeast_OS** · 05-30-2009, 11:10 AM

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Apex bro sometimes you are going to get lag no matter what. It all depends on the people and their connection. But I agree we need Play creator, but for offline use only. Mainly because to many people would cheese with created plays to much. Then you would have ton conplaints then about people cheesing created plays pretty much. Lets just stick with default playbooks for online use and have the play creator offline use only. But lg is going to always be a problem for some people. Depending on who you play agaist and how good their service is.

**PantherBeast_OS** · 05-30-2009, 11:18 AM

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Originally posted by Pro Bowler

I got a real bad feeling were not getting a play editor and if we do it will be like HC where you could transfer the plays to Madden but couldn't use them online, which makes it useless imo.

They already said they couldn't include defensive shell assignments because it practically involves re-writing the whole game code. So i got zero hope in this feature even though it's probably the single most thing they could do to improve the replay value.

Online franchise is great in theory but will fail miserabley as far as being practical. People for the most part will just drop out and quit playing. Never seen a game with this feature where this didn't happen.

Online Co-op will introduce a whole new level of cheesing, mark my words. Imagine 2 cheesers doing nothing but labbing for exploits, it's going to be a nightmare.

My buying rests soley on the addition of a play creator and i just don't see it happening. I'm perfectly fine playing the "other game" which wipes the floor with Madden in the gameplay department and a play creator is the only thing that would make me consider a purchase.

Yea the whole whole chessing thing will become a big problem for a whole new level of cheesing. The lob passing will become a problem and stuff like that. Plus the bubble screens and any other type of screen along with that will be abuse aswell. Thats why coop I really ain't going to use because it going to case so many chessing problems and to many people going stop playing it qucikly after it comes out. But we will have to wait and see.

**tjizzle** · 05-30-2009, 11:22 AM

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Originally posted by apexbronx

Now if a Play Creator is there, you can make plays geared for the lag, based on the USER's creativity. Now being that you made the play, that would be the motivating factor for the USER to play through the lag,(which will be there unless a miracle happens) So it becomes about the play the USER creates instead of Stick Skills which no one will really have Online because of lag.

This will keep people playing the Madden 10 longer instead of buying the game for 60$ then selling it at Gamestop for 20$ two months later

if the game is as laggy as your making it out to be (which i know it wont be cause none of the past few maddens have had any significant lag) then people would disregard the game regardless of if they can use their own plays or not. In my opinion extreme lag is very difficult and not enjoyable to play in, and the fact that i might be using my own plays isn't enough for me to suffer through that headache.

**kjcheezhead** · 05-30-2009, 11:22 AM

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Originally posted by Pantherbeast

Apex bro sometimes you are going to get lag no matter what. It all depends on the people and their connection. But I agree we need Play creator, but for offline use only. Mainly because to many people would cheese with created plays to much. Then you would have ton conplaints then about people cheesing created plays pretty much. Lets just stick with default playbooks for online use and have the play creator offline use only. But lg is going to always be a problem for some people. Depending on who you play agaist and how good their service is.

The gaming world is going online more than ever. I see your point that this should never be used in the Ranked games, but it really needs to be available for unranked games online. 90% of my madden time is spent playing/practicing vs opponents from my online league and the whole point of this would be lost if it is kept "in the closet" as they say.

**Carolina Panthers** · 05-30-2009, 11:27 AM

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I understand what you saying now...playbook know your playbooks but in the nfl some teams know each others plays with a few acceptions. it's all about execution....Kind of A Good Idea...I never really experience Lag though...There could be lag in co-op just like 2k Team Up You never really get a lag free game

**apexbronx** · 05-30-2009, 11:28 AM

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Originally posted by Pantherbeast

Apex bro sometimes you are going to get lag no matter what. It all depends on the people and their connection. But I agree we need Play creator, but for offline use only. Mainly because to many people would cheese with created plays to much. Then you would have ton conplaints then about people cheesing created plays pretty much. Lets just stick with default playbooks for online use and have the play creator offline use only. But lg is going to always be a problem for some people. Depending on who you play agaist and how good their service is.

I guess the word is not lag but responsiveness, If you make a turn on the 50 yard line offline you will turn at the 50, now online if you do the same you probably turn at the 48 yard line give or take a yard or 2 or 3, depending on both the players connection. If two players play online even with a Great connection, there still will be a difference if they play offline despite the Great Connection. Even those cheesy players on Madden Challenge say the same thing

P.S. Now mind you I have cablevision optimum, which is the best for Internet connectivity. Offline is always more responsive then Online thats how its always been.

**PantherBeast_OS** · 05-30-2009, 11:47 AM

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Originally posted by apexbronx

I guess the word is not lag but responsiveness, If you make a turn on the 50 yard line offline you will turn at the 50, now online if you do the same you probably turn at the 48 yard line give or take a yard or 2 or 3, depending on both the players connection. If two players play online even with a Great connection, there still will be a difference if they play offline despite the Great Connection. Even those cheesy players on Madden Challenge say the same thing

P.S. Now mind you I have cablevision optimum, which is the best for Internet connectivity. Offline is always more responsive then Online thats how its always been.

Well thats true bro. But there is only so much stuff people can do about online lag. They might can do more. But time will tell I guess hen ISP will make strives to fix the lagging that goes into online play.

**g2thecore** · 05-30-2009, 11:49 AM

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What does creating a play have to do with lag? If it lags it lags regardless of what play you call. I just don't see the relevance.

**KANE699** · 05-30-2009, 12:15 PM

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Originally posted by g2thecore

What does creating a play have to do with lag? If it lags it lags regardless of what play you call. I just don't see the relevance.

This was my thought exactly too, Im not exactly sure how a created play won't lag online while a regular play will, just doesn't make any sense to me.

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