I'm hoping the developers of the game can take a few extra looks at the run blocking.

[Tampa Bay]

Especially the plays that are designed with lineman pulling

In every video I have seen with a counter or power o running play, there seems to be some funky animation stuff going on.

It looks like both the left guard and right guard start a pull animation regardless of what direction the play is going. That is a big no no in real life. The center should also be blocking back against the defender covering the pulling guard unless the D is in a 3 man front. That's the only way to keep the RB from getting chased down in the backfield by the backside defenders.

The blocking should look more like this:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_1PiTuBhELbU/STYLq30BCpI/AAAAAAAAAQ0/bSj3rw4nJGQ/s1600-h/counter-TE.png

[bison160]

Re: I'm hoping the developers of the game can take a few extra looks at the run block

+ 1 Blocking logic seemed way broke as of E3 on run plays.

[swaldo]

Re: I'm hoping the developers of the game can take a few extra looks at the run block

"It may have just been me but the run blocking seemed to be the weakest aspect of the game. While I was able to break off some really nice runs, I was also stopped in the backfield more than felt should be normal. I consider myself to be a stronger runner than passer in Madden but I really found myself opting to pass far more because of this. The CPU didn’t seem to have the same issue going against me though as shown by how Portis tore me up."

-Pasta Padre-
pastapadre.com

Rushes for negative yardage has plagued so many football games in the past. I really hope the Madden team can put this issue in the grave.

[Outkizast]

Re: I'm hoping the developers of the game can take a few extra looks at the run block

"It may have just been me but the run blocking seemed to be the weakest aspect of the game. While I was able to break off some really nice runs, I was also stopped in the backfield more than felt should be normal. I consider myself to be a stronger runner than passer in Madden but I really found myself opting to pass far more because of this. The CPU didn’t seem to have the same issue going against me though as shown by how Portis tore me up."

-Pasta Padre-
pastapadre.com

Rushes for negative yardage has plagued so many football games in the past. I really hope the Madden team can put this issue in the grave.

+1

[Tampa Bay]

Re: I'm hoping the developers of the game can take a few extra looks at the run block

+ 1 Blocking logic seemed way broke as of E3 on run plays.

The plays with lineman pulling seemed to be the worst. It's not a game killer. If they can't fix it I just won't use those type of runs, but it would be nice to have them in my arsenal as well.

[PantherBeast_OS]

Re: I'm hoping the developers of the game can take a few extra looks at the run block

Ian should be working on this stuff this week hopefully that need to be fixed.

[Tampa Bay]

Re: I'm hoping the developers of the game can take a few extra looks at the run block

At 1:14 in the video, it works correctly, but at 1:30 the nose tackle comes through the line untouched and tackles the Qb before he can even get the toss off.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0PCsonc8QU

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[vannwolfhawk]

Re: I'm hoping the developers of the game can take a few extra looks at the run block

At 1:14 in the video, it works correctly, but at 1:30 the nose tackle comes through the line untouched and tackles the Qb before he can even get the toss off.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0PCsonc8QU

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WOW! That is pretty bad... The guy was bringing his safety up and center was going to block safety rather than defensive tackle. Ian did say he was addressing ol-dline issues this week though. Hopefully that gets fixed asap! good find though!

[Pro Bowler]

Re: I'm hoping the developers of the game can take a few extra looks at the run block

Wow! that ain't the worst of it. Did you see the 50 gamer points awarded for Nano? I'm praying that is there for debugging.

[BezO]

Re: I'm hoping the developers of the game can take a few extra looks at the run block

I hope they add some real trap plays next year, where a d-linemen is influenced & trapped.

[swaldo]

Re: I'm hoping the developers of the game can take a few extra looks at the run block

The read & react times of the DL are insane. Suppose you're a nose tackle and assigned to defend the run on that play. You're not going to charge through the line like that. Instead, you're going to brace yourself for the impending offensive blockers to come charging at you. So what you do is position yourself to hold your ground, plug holes and hope to make a tackle if the RB comes your direction.

If nobody blocks you, then you'll put your hands up after the snap and read who has the ball and what direction they are going to go. In doing this, there will be a delay before you go rushing into the backfield. You are not going to nail the QB before he even gets his handoff to the RB! And if they pitch or run a sweep you'd run towards the sideline watching for a cutback while positioning yourself for an angle pursuit if the RB makes it through the wall.

Now if a DL was assigned to pass rush I'll buy it. But no matter what it always seems the DL comes flying into the backfield as if they know exactly who has the ball and where it's going. Unfortunately, I highly doubt they have enough time to fix this problem and that would be a shame. In most cases, the ball is supposed to move forward, not backwards.

[turfguy23]

Re: I'm hoping the developers of the game can take a few extra looks at the run block

"It may have just been me but the run blocking seemed to be the weakest aspect of the game. While I was able to break off some really nice runs, I was also stopped in the backfield more than felt should be normal. I consider myself to be a stronger runner than passer in Madden but I really found myself opting to pass far more because of this. The CPU didn’t seem to have the same issue going against me though as shown by how Portis tore me up."

-Pasta Padre-
pastapadre.com

Rushes for negative yardage has plagued so many football games in the past. I really hope the Madden team can put this issue in the grave.

Barry Sanders is the All-time NFL record holder for most negative yards. Barry had 446 carries that totaled 1,114 negative yards.

I find no issue with the amount of negative rushes. It has been part of the game. It is part of the game, and it will continue to be part of the game. But that's just one man's opinion and I know I'm in the minority on this subject. But this does not mean that the running game can't be improved upon. It can always get better.......

[floridagatorfan]

Re: I'm hoping the developers of the game can take a few extra looks at the run block

Barry Sanders is the All-time NFL record holder for most negative yards. Barry had 446 carries that totaled 1,114 negative yards.

I find no issue with the amount of negative rushes. It has been part of the game. It is part of the game, and it will continue to be part of the game. But that's just one man's opinion and I know I'm in the minority on this subject. But this does not mean that the running game can't be improved upon. It can always get better.......

I don't think people are saying they want no negative rushes, just that they would like it tuned to a more realistic amount, and have negative rushes occur because of a defender making a big play not the offensive lineman having blown assignments or poor run blocking logic.

[KyGamerLT]

Re: I'm hoping the developers of the game can take a few extra looks at the run block

If I'm playing with the Giants Oline and I get stopped in the backfield multiple times on All Madden then it will be a problem.

[shttymcgee]

Re: I'm hoping the developers of the game can take a few extra looks at the run block

There is still not nearly enough lateral movement on zone running plays and plays utilitzing a kick-out or trap block at the point of attack have no real semblance of actual football blocking schemes.

The pass protections still are not true-to-life either.

Hopefully these things are still getting worked on, but I have my doubts.