Line play the foundation of football?

[Agame]

It all starts with line play. It is the foundation of the game of football and I hope it is in Madden 2010. If you work on line play and have it work with traps, belly, true zone blocking, gap play A.I.; Elite DE with signature style pass rush, DT that require double teams etc. …the rest of the game will really start to fall in place. You could have the user use the R stick to assign blocking schemes/ Defensive schemes.
( I write this every year, Still believe that if the line play were THE item that the team worked on it would take care of most of the running and passing game.

Do you agree or disagree?

[baumy300]

Re: Line play the foundation of football?

Yeah, the offensive and defensive lines are the foundation, not doubt about it.

They are not the most glamorous positions, but without them your team is nothing. Especially the O-line.

It looks like Ian & Co. have made some great improvements in this years game regarding line play.

[PanthersFanboy]

Re: Line play the foundation of football?

agree with you both

[BrKrMaTa]

Re: Line play the foundation of football?

The madden dev team has made great strides this year, but the one thing lacking in ol vs dl interaction is the double team. Double teams and the incorporation of them into the game are extremely important especially when running a 3-4 defense, where the dt requires a double team for the scheme to work effectively. Nose tackles in a 3-4 defense are monsters weighting in at 325+ in most cases. They're size is a requirement in the 3-4 to draw double teams and keep the LBs clean to make plays all day. I love the whole aspect of using madden as a teaching tool so its a must to have the most accurate scenarios taking place between the battles occurring amongst the big uglies.

I haven't notice true double teams from the videos released thus far of madden 10 so hopefully they can make that happen. Lovin the new ol /dl interaction just missing a few elements.

[spiggidy]

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Anyone know if they actually record pancakes better for your offensive linemen? My olinemen not once ever made it to the probowl. They always tallied at most 10-15 pancakes, unless I would sim games which I don't do.

[vannwolfhawk]

Re: Line play the foundation of football?

It all starts with line play. It is the foundation of the game of football and I hope it is in Madden 2010. If you work on line play and have it work with traps, belly, true zone blocking, gap play A.I.; Elite DE with signature style pass rush, DT that require double teams etc. …the rest of the game will really start to fall in place. You could have the user use the R stick to assign blocking schemes/ Defensive schemes.
( I write this every year, Still believe that if the line play were THE item that the team worked on it would take care of most of the running and passing game.

Do you agree or disagree?

I agree 100% and have stated this same exact idea with right stick being involved for line play. Spin , swim left and right along with power moves for d-lineman all worked on the r stick...

[Derrville2k10]

Re: Line play the foundation of football?

Agree, what happens in the trenches is probably the most important thing in determining a win and a loss.

[illadelphia]

Re: Line play the foundation of football?

What would really help in terms of realism within the game is if they made the D-Line actually stay low like in real life. It really hurt the game overall for me when in '09 and in previous games where D-Linemen would start off low in their stances (good), but would then proceed to stand upright all the way (bad) and then stand and not do anything for a second (very bad). Staying low is important because beating the O-linemen is as much about leverage as it is about overpowering and quickness/technique.

[Tyrant8RDFL]

Re: Line play the foundation of football?

It all starts with line play. It is the foundation of the game of football and I hope it is in Madden 2010. If you work on line play and have it work with traps, belly, true zone blocking, gap play A.I.; Elite DE with signature style pass rush, DT that require double teams etc. …the rest of the game will really start to fall in place. You could have the user use the R stick to assign blocking schemes/ Defensive schemes.
( I write this every year, Still believe that if the line play were THE item that the team worked on it would take care of most of the running and passing game.

Do you agree or disagree?

I agree 1 Million %. You say the foundation, I say the spinal cord of a football team.
The Line on both sides is the most important part of a football teams success.

Yes get this right and the rest would fall into place nicely.

[Nza]

Re: Line play the foundation of football?

Fumble, tackle, TD, drop, incomplete, force out, sack, INT, batt down - whatever you can imagine as the outcome of a play in the NFL, there is only ever one constant when it comes to the players; the offensive line and the defensive line will clash, and their battle will often dictate how the play ends up. There is no single more significant element than line play.

The good news is Madden's basically hasn't changed much at all since the game went to a 3D engine with Madden 98 (I think it was, the one with 3D engine + sprites), so the avenues open for improvement are many in number.

The bad news is, with M10 seemingly not properly addressing the basic and fundamental existence of dominant, double-team-block-requiring defensive linemen, it's hard to see too drastic a turn around just yet. The tech seems there, but maybe M11 will be needed for the execution of the tech.

[Facts]

Re: Line play the foundation of football?

agree, great post

[jeremym480]

Re: Line play the foundation of football?

I can't wait for the day that Madden get's me to want to take a highly rated offensive lineman over a 2nd RB or 3rd receiver (in the 1st or 2nd round).

I normally take a "skill position player" in the draft and try to build my line through free agency. To me it's makes Madden more interesting to take a skill player and try to contend for the rookie of the year.

However, what I want is to see a HUGE difference between a 75 rated rookie LT that I draft in the 2nd round vs a 50 rated LT I draft in the 6th. And a even bigger difference in the play of my 96 rated RT that I currently have. Once Madden get's to that point, I will want to draft a offensive lineman in the 1st round. Then we will truly have a great football game!!