Corners breaking on the routes faster than the wide receivers

[Hellisan]

Am I the only one who is really angry about the way corners don't have to "settle" when they cut, while the WRs do? It took away some of my favorite ways to attack man defense. And (at least partially) as a result, I'm focking struggling over here. I think my record so far is 1-8 because I can't read the defense in my normal style.

Here's an example.

WR beats the CB handily out of the jam. At this point, he should be able to make a move either to the outside or inside (theoretically) so at this point the CB is on pins and needles once he's a step or two behind. When the WR goes to break on the ball, he has to sink his hips and turn. The corner has no such restraints to his movement, and so gets to the ball before the receiver despite getting manhandled on the jam attempt.

Does anybody think this looks realistic?

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[KingVMSU]

Re: Corners breaking on the routes faster than the wide receivers

Makes no sense but again...could overlook it if a pass rush was a part of this game.

the lack of momentum and weight is what kills it. Physics be damned.

[Hellisan]

Re: Corners breaking on the routes faster than the wide receivers

Makes no sense but again...could overlook it if a pass rush was a part of this game.

the lack of momentum and weight is what kills it. Physics be damned.

You're playing a different game than me then. I'm on the ground every other play.

In my last game (yet another loss) I was sacked 5 times. That is the fewest number of times I've yet been sacked in any game. I'm just straight up STRUG-A-LING

[mems1224]

Re: Corners breaking on the routes faster than the wide receivers

yea, i didnt know corners had better hands than receivers too

[McLite]

Re: Corners breaking on the routes faster than the wide receivers

IMO it's not bad. The problem is the WR actually runs a in...and stops and plants to make a 90 degree cut. The CB is just playing catchup and runs underneath him without really having to make a sharp cut.

Now when this happened and the WR would run a flag or just a straight go...and the CB catches up and would jump tip it (every NCAA before this)...that's what really made me mad.

[Hellisan]

Re: Corners breaking on the routes faster than the wide receivers

IMO it's not bad. The problem is the WR actually runs a in...and stops and plants to make a 90 degree cut. The CB is just playing catchup and runs underneath him without really having to make a sharp cut.

Now when this happened and the WR would run a flag or just a straight go...and the CB catches up and would jump tip it (every NCAA before this)...that's what really made me mad.

Explain to me how just because somebody is playing catchup they don't have to make a sharp cut? They're both running straight upfield. And the CB doesn't move over at an angle in anticipation of the cut, he makes the same 90 degree cut without having to gather himself one iota!

[dave374]

Re: Corners breaking on the routes faster than the wide receivers

Am I the only one who is really angry about the way corners don't have to "settle" when they cut, while the WRs do? It took away some of my favorite ways to attack man defense. And (at least partially) as a result, I'm focking struggling over here. I think my record so far is 1-8 because I can't read the defense in my normal style.

Here's an example.

WR beats the CB handily out of the jam. At this point, he should be able to make a move either to the outside or inside (theoretically) so at this point the CB is on pins and needles once he's a step or two behind. When the WR goes to break on the ball, he has to sink his hips and turn. The corner has no such restraints to his movement, and so gets to the ball before the receiver despite getting manhandled on the jam attempt.

Does anybody think this looks realistic?

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If you're throwing into that kind of coverage, it's your fault, not theirs.

[Hellisan]

Re: Corners breaking on the routes faster than the wide receivers

If you're throwing into that kind of coverage, it's your fault, not theirs.

If you ever made/had any sense at all I'd take that into consideration. But lacking that...

[dave374]

Re: Corners breaking on the routes faster than the wide receivers

If you ever made/had any sense at all I'd take that into consideration. But lacking that...

You threw into triple coverage.
Did the corner make a quick turn? Maybe.
But you still threw into essentially triple coverage.

Sense or not, it was a bad decision on your part.

And people here were whining about man coverage last year. I guess it's fixed.

[Bat]

Re: Corners breaking on the routes faster than the wide receivers

This has made me upset as well. The wr's are like zombies running their routes. Once the ball is thrown the db's actually seem to go after the ball and make plays, while the wr's are too busy running their routes instead of trying to get position to make a catch.

[Hellisan]

Re: Corners breaking on the routes faster than the wide receivers

I didn't throw the ball there on that play. I'm simply showing the coverage that I'm seeing against those types of routes. On cuts like that, throws are made based on timing between the QB and the WR. I'm sure you know this. And when the CB has no laws of physics he has to obey, and the WR does, then suddenly that entire area of the playbook is out.

[dave374]

Re: Corners breaking on the routes faster than the wide receivers

I didn't throw the ball there on that play. I'm simply showing the coverage that I'm seeing against those types of routes. On cuts like that, throws are made based on timing between the QB and the WR. I'm sure you know this. And when the CB has no laws of physics he has to obey, and the WR does, then suddenly that entire area of the playbook is out.

I've only played NCAA 10 once. I just got it today and could only play an 8-minute quarter game when I got home from work.

Give me a few games to start bitching.

Just going by your YouTube video.

[Hellisan]

Re: Corners breaking on the routes faster than the wide receivers

Never said you had to respond dude, lol

[dave374]

Re: Corners breaking on the routes faster than the wide receivers

Never said you had to respond dude, lol

You know me well enough by now to know I'm always gonna respond.

[Young J 334]

Re: Corners breaking on the routes faster than the wide receivers

Strangely enough that didnt look too too unrealistic to me. I played corner in HS ans when I got beat off the jam I would follow the receiver's hips. If he looked like he was turning I would already be turning and try to position myself to make a play. I got burned deep a lot by guys that would hitch and take it up field! But I also led a 6A team in pass deflections as a Sophomore. Its all about perception and the understanding of the WR (awareness I guess is what it would be on NCAA)
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