Head Coach v Madden Franchise Comparison

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  • matroska
    Rookie
    • Dec 2007
    • 66

    #1

    Head Coach v Madden Franchise Comparison

    After spending countless hours on Head Coach 09, franchise mode seems tough to get back into for Madden 10. The new interface is nice but its the same ole, same ole under the hood.

    Contracts-
    Contract negotiations were on point in HC, CPU agents would make counter offers and depending on their answers to your offers you could judge if they would budge soon or not on their contract. In M10 its just the same canned responses over and over until you stumble upon the proper combination of years, salary and bonus. No incentives either which are present in HC 09. They help when signing a backup player without going to hell and back with salary and bonus when you know they will play <30% of the snaps.

    Trades-
    Trade negotiations in M10 are about the same as always. Trade negotiations werent the best in HC09 but they style in which its presented makes it hard to regress back into M10 franchise trade style. In M10 its just plugging in players until the CPU feels they are making out ahead by a considerable margin. In HC09 you would have a ton of packages listed to you depending which players were on the block, picks and future picks which was amazing. I only wish you could offer specific players in a trade situation instead of need to designate them "on the trading block" when its just one trade instance but its not that big of a deal.

    Offseason ReSign + FA
    Bit more of the same, offer more and more money blindly until they accept. FA's have interests (team need, great coach, market, etc.) which seem to effect negotiations some. It seems even really bad players want an arm and a leg to sign them.

    Coach Signings
    Unlike HC09, you can view the entire pool of available coaches and coaches in the NFL. Unlike HC09, coaches dont seem to have any attributes besides a modifier to certain positions (QB THA +5, WR RTR +5, even negative stuff, etc), no motivation, ethics, etc. Not a game killer because it keeps it simple and most of us dont know what all those att's did anyways. I like this but it would be nice if they brought over more from HC09 so you had incentive to develop staff instead of dump your current guys when someone with better modifiers comes along next offseason.

    Ill add more once I get further into it. (Draft,etc.)
    Last edited by matroska; 08-15-2009, 01:09 PM. Reason: Adding Offseason stuff
    "... you did not want to draft JaMarcus Russell. He is a great player. Get over it ..."
    - Al Davis explaining why Lane Kiffin was not a good judge of NFL talent.
  • lrarkman
    Rookie
    • May 2003
    • 29

    #2
    Re: Head Coach v Madden Franchise Comparison

    Thanks matroska.

    Please keep us updated. Im still on the fence about buying Madden 10 and your info will help with my decision.

    I haven't decided if the Madden 10 "on the field" eye candy is worth the investement yet.
    Last edited by lrarkman; 08-15-2009, 12:52 PM.

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    • matroska
      Rookie
      • Dec 2007
      • 66

      #3
      Re: Head Coach v Madden Franchise Comparison

      Updated with some of the beginning off season processes. Ill do the draft after work.
      "... you did not want to draft JaMarcus Russell. He is a great player. Get over it ..."
      - Al Davis explaining why Lane Kiffin was not a good judge of NFL talent.

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      • chickenhed
        Rookie
        • Sep 2008
        • 243

        #4
        Re: Head Coach v Madden Franchise Comparison

        Thank you for doing this. I am very interested in more comparisons. Thanks!

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        • Frog-Face-Frown
          Rookie
          • Sep 2008
          • 62

          #5
          Head Coach v Madden Franchise Comparison

          Ok this is a dumb question but does this year's madden even have a coach mode?

          I haven't seen any mention of it anywhere and I know EA hasn't had a coach mode option in madden since the 2008 PC version. I never played my 2008 PS-3 version because it had no coach mode so it ended up collecting dust until I sold it because the EA idiots didn't put in the coach mode option even though the PC version of madden '08 had it as an option.

          I'm not a button masher so that's why I like HC 09 and don't want to get screwed by EA again by buying Madden 10 for my PS-3 if they didn't add a coach mode option this time....

          Also, I don't consider spectator mode a viable alternative to coach mode as I want to create and call plays and watch my team execute them and my interest in buying Madden 10 would be to have a real coach mode and the ability to use all custom(fictional) teams in franchise mode, and of course, a 'create a player' feature would be nice to have in Madden 10 which HC '09 lacked....

          Can you tell me if Madden 10 has all this stuff? Thanx....
          Last edited by Frog-Face-Frown; 08-19-2009, 07:21 PM.

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          • D0NTSH0OTME
            Rookie
            • Jun 2009
            • 166

            #6
            Re: Head Coach v Madden Franchise Comparison

            Yes there is a coach mode, but it is only for when you are playing a game. You simpily get to call the play and have the computer run it for you.

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            • FisherPrice
              Rookie
              • Aug 2002
              • 366

              #7
              Re: Head Coach v Madden Franchise Comparison

              I'm glad someone posted this. I have been playing along in my season. But I was kind of curious to see what options they had during the off season.

              I was shocked, dissapointed etc etc. I really thought that there would be more elements of HC in this years Madden.

              After playing HC everything in Madden just seems like its there to be there. That they didn't improve on anything.

              It also feels like they worked on the backend so that later down the line they could possibly add DLC. Not saying they will do it this year but maybe in the future.

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              • bwalker
                Rookie
                • Jul 2009
                • 3

                #8
                Re: Head Coach v Madden Franchise Comparison

                I have to say I was hoping the Franchise mode would have some of the elements of HC '09 but other than seeing a couple of names I recognize from the "future 50" in the draft it's same ol' franchise mode.

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                • Politude
                  Rookie
                  • Aug 2008
                  • 45

                  #9
                  Re: Head Coach v Madden Franchise Comparison

                  Head Coach: You could trade draft picks from next year.

                  Madden: You cannot do the above.

                  Both games have the canned rookie classes, don't get me wrong, they are fun the first 2-3 times around, but I'm a franchise guy, I have a good feeling I will be seeing these classes over and over and over again.

                  The draft classes from NCAA just seem random, regardless of how good a player is, Madden immediately changes things about the player. I have a feeling Terrence Cody is NOT going in the 5th round this year, and McCluster out of Ole Miss isnt going in the 7th.

                  I LOVE the potential rating in Madden in comparison to HC. Madden just gives a grade, giving a fluid, variable progression. HC had a potential rating, so the best the player could ever become, regardless of how well he plays.

                  The scouting seems a bit underwhelming in Madden, just a screen, you checkmark the guys you want to scout, 6 weeks later they are fully scouted, nuff said.

                  I miss coach ratings from HC, every coach was built in an RPG way where they developed into better coaches. In Madden the coach OVR is only visible in the coach stats screen (pain in the *** to find btw) and only shows the OVR of the Head Coach, leading me to believe the O-Cord and D-cord are interchangable and irrelevant for the most part.

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                  • Mauler97
                    MVP
                    • May 2003
                    • 1024

                    #10
                    Re: Head Coach v Madden Franchise Comparison

                    Originally posted by bwalker
                    I have to say I was hoping the Franchise mode would have some of the elements of HC '09 but other than seeing a couple of names I recognize from the "future 50" in the draft it's same ol' franchise mode.
                    Exactly, I am very disapointed in Franchise for Madden 10, I though with Josh and Donnie they would have added the best of HC into Madden but it is still the same Madden Franchise Mode from last year.

                    Could you imagine NFL Head Coach with Madden 10 graphics and a true broadcast cam, wow! and then if they add more to the extra point shows with college player updates and actual highlights. Then they could have a pre-draft show.

                    IMO, Madden 11 has to be all about Franchise Mode and finally going beyond NFL 2K5 in presentation and HC '09 for depth. If they do that Madden will be great!
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                    • joejccva71
                      Banned
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 1535

                      #11
                      Re: Head Coach v Madden Franchise Comparison

                      Yea I loved Head Coach in almost every way.

                      Madden needs:

                      1. Ability to hire/fire coaches from every position.
                      2. Free Agency battles with other teams that are interested.
                      3. Be able to trade future draft picks.
                      4. Go through the Restricted Free Agency period just like Head Coach.
                      5. More indepth scouting process like Head Coach had including going to different schools, going to combine, etc.
                      6. The draft presentation like Head Coach had, with commentary from Adam Scheffer like they did.

                      Would be sweet!

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                      • Vaporub83
                        Rookie
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 399

                        #12
                        Re: Head Coach v Madden Franchise Comparison

                        I might be wrong, but I think the HC guys came to the Madden Development team late. So they didn't have the full development cycle. I also recall Josh and Donnie saying that a lot of features from Head Coach would be in Madden in later installments.
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                        • shoresidejake
                          Rookie
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 82

                          #13
                          Re: Head Coach v Madden Franchise Comparison

                          Why is there no Head Coach 10?
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                          • Politude
                            Rookie
                            • Aug 2008
                            • 45

                            #14
                            Re: Head Coach v Madden Franchise Comparison

                            If they are going to build on it, I'm more than happy, I still like franchise this year, but eagerly awaiting the next, improved installment of it.

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                            • Jukeman
                              Showtime
                              • Aug 2005
                              • 10955

                              #15
                              Re: Head Coach v Madden Franchise Comparison

                              Did they take out restricted FA's or was that never in nex gen?

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