Pat White's throw accuracy should not be higher than any starting QB's

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  • joeysosa
    MVP
    • Apr 2005
    • 1051

    #1

    Pat White's throw accuracy should not be higher than any starting QB's

    Looking over Pat White's ratings, I saw that his accuracy is actually higher than some starting QB's. Every single one of his accuracy ratings is higher than Jamarcus Russel's which, honestly, is a joke. And I'm not saying this out of any Raider homerism; I will be first to tell you that Russel is easily, at this point, a bottom 5 starter in the league.

    With that said, there is no way Pat White should be rated higher than him, or any starting QB for that matter. I made this observation before his preseason game today, mind you (2/7, 14 yards and an INT).

    I've noticed that, for some reason, rookies are always SO overrated in Madden. It happens every year, and this year is no exception (see Mark Sanchez's ratings, which has his accuracy in the 80's, competing with middle-top tier QB's). I feel like they rate rookies based on what they did in college than rather comparing them with other NFL players, which is a horrible mistake, considering a guy like Pat White is a prototypical player who has success in college but flounders in the NFL.
  • brownmanz
    Rookie
    • Jan 2009
    • 23

    #2
    Re: Pat White's throw accuracy should not be higher than any starting QB's

    What if actually does have better accuracy... Pat White looks like he actually could be decent in the NFL.

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    • joeysosa
      MVP
      • Apr 2005
      • 1051

      #3
      Re: Pat White's throw accuracy should not be higher than any starting QB's

      Well, if he does, then my point is moot. But let's face it, he doesn't. He was in an offense where he didn't even throw for 2,000 yards once in college and just ran options and scrambled. He was drafted specifically to run the wildcat.

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      • Striefer
        Rookie
        • May 2009
        • 69

        #4
        Re: Pat White's throw accuracy should not be higher than any starting QB's

        I still can't get over this BS. Why IS Jamarcus' accuracy so fricken low. EA really has something against Oakland

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        • Steve Slaton #1 Fan
          Rookie
          • Aug 2009
          • 94

          #5
          Re: Pat White's throw accuracy should not be higher than any starting QB's

          His throw accuracy is only 72 and he put up 3 consecutive years of 66% completion. If you even watched Pat White in college for a couple games you could see he was accurate enough to warrant a 72 and imo even higher.

          Jarmarcus Russel on the other hand put up 50, 57, and 67 in his college days. And in the pros 2 years of 54 PERCENT. LOL

          I find it ironic that you say "Pat White is a prototypical player who has success in college but flounders in the NFL" when that sounds even more like Russel. So quit crying about your overrated bust QB who has proved NOTHING.

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          • joeysosa
            MVP
            • Apr 2005
            • 1051

            #6
            Re: Pat White's throw accuracy should not be higher than any starting QB's

            Originally posted by Steve Slaton #1 Fan
            His throw accuracy is only 72 and he put up 3 consecutive years of 66% completion. If you even watched Pat White in college for a couple games you could see he was accurate enough to warrant a 72 and imo even higher.

            Jarmarcus Russel on the other hand put up 50, 57, and 67 in his college days. And in the pros 2 years of 54 PERCENT. LOL

            I find it ironic that you say "Pat White is a prototypical player who has success in college but flounders in the NFL" when that sounds even more like Russel. So quit crying about your overrated bust QB who has proved NOTHING.
            This isn't even about Russell. He's the worst starter in the NFL, there's no secret about that. But this is exactly my point. You're taking college stats and trying to translate it into the NFL. That's not how it works.

            Pat White threw for higher percentages than both Matt Stafford and Mark Sanchez. So, if that's the case, he should be higher than them? No, because White threw less than 300 times each year and had not even 2,000 yards, all his completions were a product of his system, which are flats out of the option, which is why he threw for a dismal 6.72 yards per attempt.

            There is no defending this. Your logic is synonymous with the guy who rated him, using college numbers to rate and not analyzing the game.
            Last edited by joeysosa; 08-17-2009, 10:48 PM.

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            • NDIrish98
              Pro
              • Jul 2009
              • 609

              #7
              Re: Pat White's throw accuracy should not be higher than any starting QB's

              Russell is turning out to be Ryan Leaf part deux, other than being #1 instead of #2, which in turn, he'd be a bigger flop, but we'll see this year what happens. if you've ever watched Russell play (and i know you have) i could easily see Pat White's accuracy rating being higher, just because White wasnt a dropback passer doesnt mean he wasnt accurate. let's see Russell's pass accuracy was around 53-54%, White's in college was a career avg of 65%, so i'm not sure why all the beef about it.

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              • joeysosa
                MVP
                • Apr 2005
                • 1051

                #8
                Re: Pat White's throw accuracy should not be higher than any starting QB's

                Originally posted by NDIrish98
                Russell is turning out to be Ryan Leaf part deux, other than being #1 instead of #2, which in turn, he'd be a bigger flop, but we'll see this year what happens. if you've ever watched Russell play (and i know you have) i could easily see Pat White's accuracy rating being higher, just because White wasnt a dropback passer doesnt mean he wasnt accurate. let's see Russell's pass accuracy was around 53-54%, White's in college was a career avg of 65%, so i'm not sure why all the beef about it.
                Read my above post.

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                • davidandjordan
                  Rookie
                  • Aug 2008
                  • 124

                  #9
                  Re: Pat White's throw accuracy should not be higher than any starting QB's

                  I don't have a problem with rookies who come out with pretty good accuracy ratings. Pat White should DEFINITELY not be rated higher than Jamarcus Russell, though.
                  That being said, rookies should have low awareness ratings rather than accuracy. It's perfectly acceptable to me that Mark Sanchez is maybe more accurate that middle-teir QB's at this point, but I wouldn't accept it if his awareness is higher. I hope that makes sense. I'm just trying to be objective. I think you make a good point.
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                  • joeysosa
                    MVP
                    • Apr 2005
                    • 1051

                    #10
                    Re: Pat White's throw accuracy should not be higher than any starting QB's

                    Originally posted by davidandjordan
                    I don't have a problem with rookies who come out with pretty good accuracy ratings. Pat White should DEFINITELY not be rated higher than Jamarcus Russell, though.
                    That being said, rookies should have low awareness ratings rather than accuracy. It's perfectly acceptable to me that Mark Sanchez is maybe more accurate that middle-teir QB's at this point, but I wouldn't accept it if his awareness is higher. I hope that makes sense. I'm just trying to be objective. I think you make a good point.
                    Yeah, that is a good point. Which is true, since Sanchez does have a pretty low awareness in the game last I checked. It was either low 70's or high 60's. However, when you are using Sanchez, how much does that awareness actually affect, considering you're the one making the decisions?

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                    • Darkleaf
                      MVP
                      • Feb 2006
                      • 1685

                      #11
                      Re: Pat White's throw accuracy should not be higher than any starting QB's

                      Sorry to ask this here..But I was wondering since you are a Raiders fan do they have the baseball diamond on the field for the preseason?

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                      • NDIrish98
                        Pro
                        • Jul 2009
                        • 609

                        #12
                        Re: Pat White's throw accuracy should not be higher than any starting QB's

                        Originally posted by joeysosa
                        This isn't even about Russell. He's the worst starter in the NFL, there's no secret about that. But this is exactly my point. You're taking college stats and trying to translate it into the NFL. That's not how it works.

                        Pat White threw for higher percentages than both Matt Stafford and Mark Sanchez. So, if that's the case, he should be higher than them? No, because White threw less than 300 times each year and had not even 2,000 yards, all his completions were a product of his system, which are flats out of the option, which is why he threw for a dismal 6.72 yards per attempt.

                        There is no defending this. Your logic is synonymous with the guy who rated him, using college numbers to rate and not analyzing the game.
                        alright, well then we'll tell EA not to release madden til halfway through the season so we can "analyze" the rookies correctly, which by the way, getting all ratings correct is impossible as it is. still dont know why the big fuss then, any QB who's rating wasnt higher than Russel's, that would b the real crime.
                        Last edited by NDIrish98; 08-17-2009, 11:02 PM.

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                        • joeysosa
                          MVP
                          • Apr 2005
                          • 1051

                          #13
                          Re: Pat White's throw accuracy should not be higher than any starting QB's

                          Originally posted by Darkleaf
                          Sorry to ask this here..But I was wondering since you are a Raiders fan do they have the baseball diamond on the field for the preseason?
                          Because we share our stadium with the A's.

                          It's on the long list of why our organization sucks.

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                          • Darkleaf
                            MVP
                            • Feb 2006
                            • 1685

                            #14
                            Re: Pat White's throw accuracy should not be higher than any starting QB's

                            Originally posted by joeysosa
                            Because we share our stadium with the A's.

                            It's on the long list of why our organization sucks.
                            Maybe I worded it wrong but it's in the game right?

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                            • joeysosa
                              MVP
                              • Apr 2005
                              • 1051

                              #15
                              Re: Pat White's throw accuracy should not be higher than any starting QB's

                              Originally posted by Darkleaf
                              Maybe I worded it wrong but it's in the game right?
                              Oh sorry I misread, I thought you asked why.

                              Yeah it does.

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