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  • Josh_Looman
    NFL Head Coach '09 Lead Designer
    • Jun 2008
    • 640

    #1

    Offline Franchise Stats Tuning Update

    Good morning, guys.
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    I just wanted to check in with you guys on what I'm currently tuning for the patch.
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    I'm looking at some of the offline franchise stats there have been complaints about and I want to make sure my priorities match yours.
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    Here’s a disclaimer before you start reading the sections below:
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    First off, the problem with our stats engine is that it’s touchy. If I bring passing touchdowns down slightly, that could mean that rushing touchdowns rocket up to 25-30. It will also mean that receiving touchdowns could drop much lower.

    The trick is finding the right balance, which won’t be perfect but will be as close as it can get.

    When you get these fixes, you may still be unhappy with a few of the results. My goal is to get them as close as possible so that it doesn’t ruin the experience for you in offline franchise mode.<O

    Another key thing to remember: This tuning is for offline franchise only. Online franchise runs on a completely separate engine and these changes do not apply to online franchise.

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    Rushing touchdowns<O
    I'm trying to increase these so that they match what normally happens in the NFL each year. I'd like the max to be around 15-18, since the leader last year had 18 and the leader in 2007 had 15. After tuning this yesterday, I’ve got the league leaders at about 22, which is still too high for me yet.

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    Passing touchdowns<O
    I’m trying to decrease these slightly. After some tuning yesterday, I’m getting QBs with about 35 as the max for a season. Here's what they look like right now:

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    Rushing averages<O
    I’m trying to increase these for backups. The problem is…if I increase them for backups, they go up for starters too.

    After yesterday’s tuning, Peterson and Turner are averaging 7.0 yards per carry. I’m working on bringing that down.
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    Tackles <O
    Now for the ‘game killer’ that has caused numerous people to wait weeks to start franchise mode. After doing some digging, I figured out what the problem is.

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    The screens are mislabeled.

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    Here’s what’s going on…in-game, we display two columns on the stats screen for tackles; solo tackles and assisted tackles.

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    When you load back out of game and go into the season stats screen, you now see two columns as well, but they are labeled total tackles and assisted tackles.

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    The total tackle column is actually showing solo tackles and every other screen that displays total tackles is showing the solo tackle stat, even though we are adding them together in the back end.
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    When it comes to progression, it is using the combined tackle numbers, even though you don’t see that value in a column when looking at the spreadsheet.

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    Here’s a screenshot of my stats screen in-game after playing a 5 minute quarter game in week one:



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    And here’s a screenshot of my stats screen after exiting that game:
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    So, the fix here is that I need to try and decrease solo tackle numbers for the top guys in the league right now.

    Beason led the NFL with 110 solo tackles last year, and I’ve got guys getting 160-170 right now.

    I need to try and pull those down and distribute them all a little more evenly, especially when it comes to the number of tackles that corners get.

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    Injuries <O
    Since the stat engine also controls simmed injuries, I’m going to tune these down slightly and I mean slightly. I’m happy with the number of injuries we have in the sim right now, but I’ve seen a lot of complaints, so I’m going to decrease these a little bit.
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    Sacks<O
    I’m also looking into increasing sacks for outside linebackers in the 3-4. Our stat engine does a decent job of differentiating between 4-3 and 3-4 defenses, but as I mentioned before, it’s touchy.

    I worked for weeks just trying to get linebackers in general to get sacks instead of DTs. I’ll see what I can do in this department, but this one will be much tougher than the rest of the categories above.

    Ok, that’s what I’ve got planned for now.

    Is there any other category of stats that should have a higher priority than the ones I mentioned above?

    I’ve got limited time to get this stuff in for the patch, so I’ve got to pick the highest priority things that are bothering you guys the most.

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  • jeremym480
    Speak it into existence
    • Oct 2008
    • 18198

    #2
    Re: Offline Franchise Stats Tuning Update

    Looks good Josh. Thanks for not forgetting about us!!!

    Rushing TD's at 22 would be fine (IMO) as long as it's not every single year.

    Oh and the Million Dollar question....

    Will we have to re-start our franchises for these stat fixes to take effect??
    Last edited by jeremym480; 09-10-2009, 10:28 AM.
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    • Obelysk
      Pro
      • Oct 2008
      • 612

      #3
      Re: Offline Franchise Stats Tuning Update

      Well as far as priorities I guess it comes down to preference. Me personally the 3-4 OLBs lack of sacks kills me big time, after that is tackle numbers. I have alleviated some of those issue by controlling 32 teams in the NFL and changing some of the coach sliders but gets real annoying having to manage all of that to get realistic stats. Thanks for looking into this Josh.
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      • mvandor
        Banned
        • Jul 2003
        • 777

        #4
        Re: Offline Franchise Stats Tuning Update

        Really appreciate the open communication!

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        • econoodle
          MVP
          • Sep 2009
          • 4884

          #5
          Re: Offline Franchise Stats Tuning Update

          So cool to get your hands dirty on this Josh, you ARE the walrus [sorry, Rock Band Beatles has got me all twisted up in the game]

          Thanks though Josh, all this is 'looooking good' [sorry, been watching Chico & The man reruns too].

          Everything looks good, except RODGERS 23 TDS, 16 INTS?
          Tweak that SLIGHTLY to about 33 tds 1 int.

          thanks Josh!

          I am loving this communication.
          Last edited by econoodle; 09-10-2009, 10:32 AM.

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          • Bears_16_and_0
            Banned
            • May 2003
            • 1328

            #6
            Re: Offline Franchise Stats Tuning Update

            what is the difference between those 2 screenshots for the tackle numbers? I cant tell =(

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            • CYST2000
              Pro
              • Aug 2009
              • 555

              #7
              Re: Offline Franchise Stats Tuning Update

              Thanks for keeping us in the know. "You are a gentleman and a scholar".
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              • mavfan21
                MVP
                • Jul 2007
                • 1842

                #8
                Re: Offline Franchise Stats Tuning Update

                You're doing a great job, thanks!
                Don't look back too long and don't look too far ahead.

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                • buttons0662
                  Rookie
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 105

                  #9
                  Re: Offline Franchise Stats Tuning Update

                  Can there be a Patch made so that the User of a team can make Formation subtitutions BEFORE the game starts? This way if I controlled a 3-4 team I can put my OLBs in as DEs in Pass rush (Nickel) situations.

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                  • Bears_16_and_0
                    Banned
                    • May 2003
                    • 1328

                    #10
                    Re: Offline Franchise Stats Tuning Update

                    Originally posted by Bears_16_and_0
                    what is the difference between those 2 screenshots for the tackle numbers? I cant tell =(

                    ah never mind, I see. It is the column headings.

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                    • KANE699
                      EA Sports' Equipment Guru
                      • Jul 2007
                      • 3447

                      #11
                      Re: Offline Franchise Stats Tuning Update

                      Having the MLB's get more tackles than the safties I would say also should be a priority.
                      Please take note that most of what I say and post is made in satire.

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                      • Homecourt
                        Rookie
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 333

                        #12
                        Re: Offline Franchise Stats Tuning Update

                        I'd be interested to know why you can have a game where one guy has 1.5 sacks and no other player gets the other 1/2 sack, but it is definitely NOT a priority when compared to the other things you are dealing with.

                        Thanks for the update!

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                        • adam914
                          Rookie
                          • Mar 2008
                          • 234

                          #13
                          Re: Offline Franchise Stats Tuning Update

                          As far as I can tell, this looks like exactly what we need. Thank you!!

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                          • SA1NT401
                            Banned
                            • Sep 2007
                            • 3498

                            #14
                            Re: Offline Franchise Stats Tuning Update

                            Rushing TD's and Tackles would be the BIG 2 for me...But if there ia a way to fix the OLB sack numbers that woulkd be HUGE as well.

                            RB TD's should be #1 with either of the other 2 being next.

                            Thanks

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                            • eraserx13
                              Rookie
                              • Sep 2003
                              • 265

                              #15
                              Re: Offline Franchise Stats Tuning Update

                              I know you are tuning sim stats but what about PANCAKES in game?

                              Aunt Jemima isn't happy with no pancakes!!! =P

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