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alifeincomplete 09-14-2009 07:06 PM

The Great Madden Muppet Caper (aka, Madden as Nostradamus)
 
Disclaimer: I had some difficulty in selecting a forum to put this in, but I figured it is more about Madden than actual football so I've placed it here; if that's taboo, I apologize.

Who else does this? I've set up a franchise with the latest roster update (I know, it's not wholly accurate) and I adjust the depth charts based on the inactive lists for each week.

Some preface....

Earlier this year, I used NHL 09 to make predictions that fell just shy of being wholly accurate for the Cup Finals. I blame that goof on my own interference in the "science" of EA Sports; the game froze and I had to restart it--prior to the reset, the Pens won, but the Wings won the second game, which was the one I went with as the prediction. The game was 6-0 prior to that prediction goof.

The precedent...

Every year since '04, EA has run Super Bowl simulations using the newest edition of Madden. The results...
  • 2004 - Patriots 23, Panthers 20<sup id="cite_ref-34" class="reference"></sup> (Actual Score: Patriots 32, Panthers 29)
  • 2005 - Patriots 47, Eagles 31 <sup id="cite_ref-35" class="reference"></sup>(Actual score: Patriots 24, Eagles 21)
  • 2006 - Steelers 24, Seahawks 19 <sup id="cite_ref-36" class="reference"></sup> (Actual score: Steelers 21, Seahawks 10)
  • 2007 - Colts 38, Bears 27 <sup id="cite_ref-37" class="reference"></sup>(Actual score: Colts 29, Bears 17)
  • 2008- Patriots 38, Giants 30 <sup id="cite_ref-38" class="reference"></sup>(Actual score: Giants 17, Patriots 14)
  • 2009- Steelers 28, Cardinals 24 <sup id="cite_ref-39" class="reference"></sup>(Actual score: Steelers 27, Cardinals 23)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madden_...owl_simulation

They say that Madden NFL 10 is the most authentic football game there ever has been, so I want to see how accurate it is.

Week 1
Prediction results: 10-6
Most accurate prediction: Dallas/Tampa Bay (1 point difference)

Madden: Steelers - 20, Titans - 10
Reality: Steelers - 13, Titans - 10 (OT)
CORRECT!

Madden: Ravens - 23, Chiefs - 9
Reality: Ravens - 38, Chiefs - 24
CORRECT!

Madden: Texans - 27, Jets - 24
Reality: Jets - 24, Texans - 7
INCORRECT!

Madden: Browns - 27, Vikings - 24
Reality: Vikings 34, Browns - 20
INCORRECT!

Madden: Panthers - 24, Eagles - 7
Reality: Eagles - 38, Panthers - 10
INCORRECT!

Madden: Jaguars - 28, Colts - 21
Reality: Colts - 14, Jaguars 12
INCORRECT!

Madden: Broncos - 20, Bengals - 17
Reality: Broncos 12, Bengals 7
CORRECT!

Madden: Cowboys - 34, Buccaneers - 20
Reality: Cowboys - 34, Buccaneers - 21
CORRECT!

Madden: Saints - 17, Lions - 7
Reality: Saints - 45, Lions 27
CORRECT!

Madden: Falcons - 31, Dolphins - 28 (OT)
Reality: Falcons 19, Dolphins - 7
CORRECT!

Madden: Seahawks - 22, Rams - 3
Reality: Seahawks 28, Rams - 0
CORRECT!

Madden: Giants - 20, Redskins - 13
Reality: Giants - 23, Redskins - 17
CORRECT!

Madden: Cardinals - 27, 49ers - 24 (OT)
Reality: 49ers - 20, Cardinals - 16
INCORRECT!

Madden: Bears - 23, Packers - 21
Reality: Packers 21, Bears 15
INCORRECT!

Madden: Patriots - 27, Bills - 3
Reality: Patriots - 25, Bills - 24
CORRECT!

Madden: Chargers - 20, Raiders - 13
Reality: Chargers - 24, Raiders - 20
CORRECT!

Thoughts? Suggestions to improve the accuracy of this great guessing game? The methodology behind the first week's sims was simple and I'm looking for some refinement: 15 minute quarters with a 15 second runoff on very slow with the difficulty (not sure how much of a difference this makes in simulated games) set to All-Madden. I'm looking into using some of the sliders schemes I've seen set up by people to get more realistic stats.

fjccommish 09-14-2009 09:22 PM

I don't think the clock settings (such as Q length or runoff) make any difference in simulated games.

Dienekes 09-14-2009 10:22 PM

Re: The Great Madden Muppet Caper (aka, Madden as Nostradamus)
 
Pretty interesting. I would love you to keep posting your progress with this weekly. I would like to know the accuracy percentage for the year. Too bad it does not seem to do well with the spread or we could make some nice money...

alifeincomplete 09-15-2009 03:09 PM

Re: The Great Madden Muppet Caper (aka, Madden as Nostradamus)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dienekes (Post 2040179659)
Pretty interesting. I would love you to keep posting your progress with this weekly. I would like to know the accuracy percentage for the year. Too bad it does not seem to do well with the spread or we could make some nice money...

Oh, I intend to keep at it. My only problem will be this upcoming weekend because I'm going to be out of town for three days. I haven't decided whether or not to sim the games before I leave or after the fact and do retrospective predictions. Doing the sims after I get back on Sunday night would be beneficial because I may not catch all of the last-minute inactives if I sim it before hand.

It went 10-6 in its first week so I'm hoping to at least get that for Week 2.

CMH 09-15-2009 03:14 PM

Re: The Great Madden Muppet Caper (aka, Madden as Nostradamus)
 
Are you simming or CPU-vs.-CPU?

alifeincomplete 09-15-2009 03:24 PM

Re: The Great Madden Muppet Caper (aka, Madden as Nostradamus)
 
Simming each game. I tried to go CPU v CPU and let it play out while I did other things, but the game I tested that for (Buffalo/New England) was absurd--the Patriots won 98-6. Any suggestions on how to prevent that?

alifeincomplete 09-20-2009 11:50 PM

Re: The Great Madden Muppet Caper (aka, Madden as Nostradamus)
 
Week 2
Prediction results: 9-7
Most accurate prediction: Carolina/Atlanta (3 pt difference)

Madden: Oakland 23, Kansas City 18
Reality: Oakland 13, Kansas City 10
CORRECT!

Madden: Arizona 35, Jacksonville 28
Reality: Arizona 31, Jacksonville 17
CORRECT!

Madden: Minnesota 20, Detroit 13
Reality: Minnesota 27, Detroit 13<o></o>

CORRECT!<o></o>
<o></o>
Madden: Green Bay 27, Cincinnati 10
Reality: Cincinnati 31, Green Bay 24<o></o>

INCORRECT!<o></o>
<o></o>
Madden: Tennessee 28, Houston 7
Reality: Houston 34, Tennessee 31<o></o>

INCORRECT!<o></o><o></o>
Madden: Washington 28, St Louis 21
Reality: Washington 9, St Louis 7<o></o>

CORRECT!<o></o>
<o></o>
Madden: Atlanta 26, Carolina 21
Reality: Atlanta 28, Carolina 20<o></o>

CORRECT!<o></o>
<o></o>
Madden: New England 20, New York Jets 13
Reality: New York Jets 16, New England 9<o></o>

INCORRECT!<o></o>
<o></o>
Madden: New Orleans 41, Philadelphia 24
Reality: New Orleans 48, Philadelphia 22<o></o>

CORRECT!<o></o>
<o></o>
Madden: San Francisco 24, Seattle 14
Reality: San Francisco 23, Seattle 10<o></o>

CORRECT<o></o>!
<o></o>
Madden: Tampa Bay 10, Buffalo 3
Reality: Buffalo 33, Tampa Bay 20<o></o>

INCORRECT!

Madden: Denver 31, Cleveland 28
Reality: Denver 27, Cleveland 6<o></o>

CORRECT!
<o></o>
Madden: San Diego 21, Baltimore 10
Reality: Baltimore 31, San Diego 26

INCORRECT!<o></o>
<o></o>
Madden: Pittsburgh 19, Chicago 13
Reality: Chicago 17, Pittsburgh 14

INCORRECT!<o></o>
<o></o>
Madden: Dallas 30, New York Giants 10
Reality: New York Giants 33, Dallas 31<o></o>

INCORRECT!<o></o>
<o></o>
Madden: Indianapolis 33, Miami 13
Reality:<o> Indianapolis 27, Miami 23
</o>
CORRECT!<o></o>

MatrixTN 09-21-2009 07:19 AM

Re: The Great Madden Muppet Caper (aka, Madden as Nostradamus)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by alifeincomplete (Post 2040207480)
Madden: Minnesota 10, Detroit 13
Reality: Minnesota 27, Detroit 13<o></o>[/font]

Typo or oversight? Shouldn't this be wrong?


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