LAL 78 PiP vs Suns

[DayZ]

http://www.nba.com/games/20091112/PHXLAL/gameinfo.html?ls=gt1hp0020900123

so it does happen, regardless if it was 121 points, take away 20 points and its still 58 PiP


what i am noticing alot lately in the nba is alot of 120+ final scores...

maybe 2k's association is accurate >< ...

[Greene_Flash03]

Re: LAL 78 PiP vs Suns

http://www.nba.com/games/20091112/PH...t1hp0020900123

so it does happen, regardless if it was 121 points, take away 20 points and its still 58 PiP


what i am noticing alot lately in the nba is alot of 120+ final scores...

maybe 2k's association is accurate >< ...

That's what I've been telling people here... and It's not impossible to shoot over 50% in the NBA nowadays... the only thing that bothers me in this game, stat-wise is turnovers and assists..

[Brattli]

Re: LAL 78 PiP vs Suns

http://www.nba.com/games/20091112/PH...t1hp0020900123

so it does happen, regardless if it was 121 points, take away 20 points and its still 58 PiP


what i am noticing alot lately in the nba is alot of 120+ final scores...

maybe 2k's association is accurate >< ...

Lakers haven't scored that many points in the paint since dropping 80 pip back in 2000... that's 9 years ago :P

[sanghai2]

Re: LAL 78 PiP vs Suns

Well the Suns are one of the worst defensive teams in the league... Can't wait till the Lakers play the T'wolves. 146 points was it?

[tril]

Re: LAL 78 PiP vs Suns

yup
I dont understand why folks complain about PIP. PIP include fast break baskets, floaters from inside the paint etc,
thats the fundamentals of basketball.

heres a breakdown of some stats including assists. 2k has it almost right.

interesting breakdown of stats

http://www.nba.com/2009/news/features/john_schuhmann/01/14/numbers.game.20090114/index.html

http://www.82games.com/pointsinpaint.htm

http://www.82games.com/0809/FGTEAM15.HTM

[brs2305]

Re: LAL 78 PiP vs Suns

Well I think the biggest problem folks complain about is, that 50+ PIP is standard in 2k's games. However 50+ PIP is not standard in the NBA. I am looking at these stats a lot and I mostly see around 30 PIP (+- 10). And you barely get these kind of stats in 2k (at least pre patch, haven't played with patch, yet).

On the other hand there is no reason to complain about high scores. That's where I agree completely. Actually I think there are to less high score games. If you look at the team stats at the end of the season than the most I see is 105 PPG. 2 Years ago the GSW had over 110 PPG. So there is still chance for improvement.

[DayZ]

Re: LAL 78 PiP vs Suns

I am really noticing the 120 points recently for final game scores in real life

there was one day this season when there was at least 2 games with all four teams scoring 110+

i'm just wondering why the trend is so high this season, does it have anything to do with the refs being inconsistent with foul calls?

@Brattli: I remember the lakers scoring 60 PiP not too long ago

@sanghai2: yeah that may be true, but there has been days when more than one of the games have 50+ PiP.

[STLRams]

Re: LAL 78 PiP vs Suns

Also remember that the Suns defense has been subpar for years.

[jeebs9]

Re: LAL 78 PiP vs Suns

More problem with the PIP.....is the way they are scored. I don't care how much my opponent gets in the paint. But the way he scores it.


But these teams that score so much will eventually burn out come playoff team. It comes down to defense in April.

[supadupa]

Re: LAL 78 PiP vs Suns

Is there not something about Free Throw points from shooting fouls inside the paint is counted as Points In The Paint in the stats of 2009?

The link above to 82games does not include this.

In Nba 2k10 only FG is counted as PITP.

The lakers only had 7 FT som they really ha a lot of FG in the paint.

[sanghai2]

Re: LAL 78 PiP vs Suns

Yesterday, in 13 NBA games, 6 teams had at least 50 PiP (Raptors-50, Celtics-52, Hawks-56, Knicks-56, Grizzlies-50, Rockets-62), just look here: http://www.nba.com/games/20091111/scoreboard.html. Now of course, 6 outta 26 teams isn't a majority or anything, but it definitely shows that even at the NBA level, 50 PiP is not that great of a rarity. Perhaps it's just a few teams who play no defense at all (eg. Suns). But the Rockets scoring 62 PiP with no Yao?

[Pared]

Re: LAL 78 PiP vs Suns

Issue is overblown at this point. Post-patch, on Pro, stats have been fine.

[Cr0ss0ver]

Re: LAL 78 PiP vs Suns

Ok, so that means the cheesers are now sim? lol

My problem isn't points in the paint if its because of lack of defense or just leavin the paint open but if you force the ball and don't even try to shoot a jumpshot this doesn't make your cheeserness justifiable.

[stewaat]

Re: LAL 78 PiP vs Suns

It's not how many PiP, it's how the PiP are being scored.

When my PF comes over to help for no reason and leaves a wide open guy under the hoop, there's an issue.

[Boilerbuzz]

Re: LAL 78 PiP vs Suns

It's not how many PiP, it's how the PiP are being scored.

When my PF comes over to help for no reason and leaves a wide open guy under the hoop, there's an issue.

And, as was stated before by Pared, POST patch this is not an issue.