Pitching motions need work

**nemesis04** · 01-31-2010, 02:21 PM

Re: Pitching motions need work

They said they worked on quite a few of them but I did not view any of them because they were not in the game yet. Time will tell! One thing is for sure though in that video, the overall player fluidity in the Show is way ahead of where 2k is at currently.

**K_GUN** · 01-31-2010, 08:27 PM

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Originally posted by nemesis04

One thing is for sure though in that video, the overall player fluidity in the Show is way ahead of where 2k is at currently.

but perhaps this is a drawback.....too fluid of an animation doesn't allow for the intensity-vigorous motion during a pitch

hard to put into words but i agree with OP on this one

**Rob_NYY** · 01-31-2010, 11:13 PM

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I agree with the OP as well. The Show made great strides with the batting stances last year, but a lot of the pitching motions were still horrible. Some of the new ones were pretty good (Sabathia, Burnett, Santana, off the top of my head), but some of the old ones from MLB 08 and prior are just horrid and need to be deleted; none of them are very good at all.

The vid the OP posted just goes to show you how far ahead 2K was last year. Just look at the comparison between K-Rod in 2K9 and K-Rod in MLB 09. Yikes! And why does K-Rod still pitch out of the windup in The Show? He hasn't done that since like 2006.

Hopefully, this is the year they change a lot of the pitching motions. It's a shame to still have some horribly inaccurate pitching animations from MLB 06 in the game.

**Tommyklaid** · 01-31-2010, 11:38 PM

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Originally posted by Rob_NYY

I agree with the OP as well. The Show made great strides with the batting stances last year, but a lot of the pitching motions were still horrible. Some of the new ones were pretty good (Sabathia, Burnett, Santana, off the top of my head), but some of the old ones from MLB 08 and prior are just horrid and need to be deleted; none of them are very good at all.

The vid the OP posted just goes to show you how far ahead 2K was last year. Just look at the comparison between K-Rod in 2K9 and K-Rod in MLB 09. Yikes! And why does K-Rod still pitch out of the windup in The Show? He hasn't done that since like 2006.

Hopefully, this is the year they change a lot of the pitching motions. It's a shame to still have some horribly inaccurate pitching animations from MLB 06 in the game.

I wonder if one of "our guys" spoke with SCEA about all of that...not sure tho. It'd be nice to have someone there that "specifically" talks to them about the stances / pitching motions. (what needs work, what doesn't)

I'm not sure if they had that chance...

**Bronk_Bonin** · 02-01-2010, 12:02 AM

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I'll simpily just co-sign this

I think I've spoken loud and clear the last few years that this needs some serious upgrading. The feeling I'm getting is from the lack of feedback in this area, is that we'll see minimal upgrading. I think we'll see a few changes like last year, but nothing drastic like the hitters were addressed last year. I hope I'm wrong.

**Rob_NYY** · 02-01-2010, 12:07 AM

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Originally posted by cc23klaid

I wonder if one of "our guys" spoke with SCEA about all of that...not sure tho. It'd be nice to have someone there that "specifically" talks to them about the stances / pitching motions. (what needs work, what doesn't)

I'm not sure if they had that chance...

None of the guys that were invited to the community event were of the Batting Stance and Pitching Motion Guild of America™. The closest we got was RodCarew last year, but he was unable to attend. This year, I'm not sure what happened with him.

Unfortunately, none of the guys that went out there care about the stances and motions like a lot of us do. Even if they did, the build they played didn't have any of the new stances or motions in yet; so I'm not sure how much info we would have gotten anyway.

**Senor_Herbatron** · 02-01-2010, 12:27 AM

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Didn't think much of it until I saw that video. I definitely see where the OP is coming from. Nice post.

**rspencer86** · 02-01-2010, 12:30 AM

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If you watch the video, the biggest difference between the 2K motions and the Show motions are the follow-throughs. In The Show almost every pitcher follows through the same way making a lot of the motions look pretty awkward, whereas 2K has mo-capped the unique follow-throughs as well.

It's definitely an area (one of the few, actually) that is in some serious need of work. When most everything else animation-wise looks so natural and realistic, watching the pitchers is kind of jolting because the quality isn't quite there.

**Yankees94** · 02-01-2010, 12:53 AM

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Originally posted by rspencer86

If you watch the video, the biggest difference between the 2K motions and the Show motions are the follow-throughs. In The Show almost every pitcher follows through the same way making a lot of the motions look pretty awkward, whereas 2K has mo-capped the unique follow-throughs as well.

It's definitely an area (one of the few, actually) that is in some serious need of work. When most everything else animation-wise looks so natural and realistic, watching the pitchers is kind of jolting because the quality isn't quite there.

i totally agree with this..it always nagged me and still does..i hope pitching did get some attention this year and follow thrroughs are added..minor problem(i guess)

**Tommyklaid** · 02-01-2010, 01:16 AM

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Let's definitely put it on '11's Wishlist...sound good?

**jay08hawks** · 02-01-2010, 01:40 AM

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guys, dont mention that 2ksports did something right in their game and that you would like to see it in The Show, because Brett_OS will come in and call it spam and then close the thread... i.e.- Sizzler Trailer vs. The Show.

**chicubsfan20** · 02-01-2010, 01:51 AM

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Originally posted by jay08hawks

guys, dont mention that 2ksports did something right in their game and that you would like to see it in The Show, because Brett_OS will come in and call it spam and then close the thread... i.e.- Sizzler Trailer vs. The Show.

He did that to try and prevent a whole the Show vs 2ksports MLB type thread.

That's where it would of ended up.

**tommyjesus** · 02-01-2010, 02:19 AM

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zito's motion is also wrong in the show 09.

i agree with mostly everyone, the pitching motions need work for sure.

**rudyjuly2** · 02-01-2010, 06:12 AM

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I see what you guys mean on the follow through. I guess ignorance is bliss for me since I can't identify most of the real pitching motions anyways. I'm not sure Roy Halladay's looked that great in either game though.

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