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  • 12
    Banned
    • Feb 2010
    • 4458

    #1

    Roster Project

    (Mods, I know that I've already made a thread like this but I'm asking that this one be left open and the other one closed - thanks...)

    With word from Ron that the DEV team for 2K10 could significantly fix the roster restriction problem, I am going to work on a roster set.

    Let's talk about what some of that entails.

    Baseball America/ESPN.com's top prospects list will be used extensively for this project. The initial plan is to create the top 50 prospects, using scouting reports and stat analysis to incorporate the proper ratings.

    Guys like Jason Heyward, Stephen Strasburg, Mike Stanton, Jesus Montero, Desmond Jennings and Dustin Ackley will not have ratings above 78. I see all of the above as guys who deserve a rating in the mid to upper 70's. That is dynamic though and can change. A guy like Heyward, for instance, could see a ratings dip based on my research as I gain more knowledge on his game. That goes for everyone. Potential ratings will obviously be high considering these guys are considered the cream of the crop by most scouting services.

    There are prospects who are in the game, but my plan is to change the attributes on these guys to 0 and drop them in the FA pool. Why? The prospects I've seen just look like crap appearance wise and I want to get them looking as realistic as I can. It just seems easier this way. I like being able to edit an appearance and with created players, you can do this. I just wish 2K gave us a much higher cap for created players, but I'll do the best I can with what they give me.

    The rest lies in 2K's hands. I can only do so much with the restrictions they've given us. If the roster editing restrictions are fixed in a patch, I will continue to work on the roster for as long as I can - and that goes beyond prospects. It also delves into the whole minor league system.

    It will be a good set. I can't give a time frame but I can promise to put as much time in this project as I can. I am like many others in that I want as realistic rosters as I can get and I won't start my own franchise until I finish - that's plenty of motivation right there.

    Feel free to help me by posting insights on prospects, whether that be inside info, links, or videos. It would help a lot and speed up the process.

    Also, just feel free to give any advice to me that you deem helpful in this project.
    Last edited by 12; 03-20-2010, 03:34 AM.
  • 12
    Banned
    • Feb 2010
    • 4458

    #2
    Re: Roster Project

    Here's a quick update on where I'm at so far.

    Prospects created with their overall rating:

    Jason Heyward, RF, Braves --
    78 overall
    Stephen Strasburg, RHP, Nationals -- 79 overall
    Mike Stanton, OF, Marlins -- 74 overall
    Dustin Ackley, 2B, Mariners -- 74 overall
    Jesus Montero, C, Yankees -- 72 overall
    Pedro Alvarez, 3B, Pirates -- 76 overall
    Desmond Jennings, LF, Rays -- 74 overall
    Carlos Santana, C, Indians -- 73 overall
    Aroldis Chapman, LHP, Reds -- 75 overall
    Justin Smoak, 1B, Rangers -- 76 overall
    Carlos Triunfel, SS, Mariners -- 67 overall

    On the list for tomorrow:

    Domonic Brown, OF, Phillies
    Starlin Castro, SS, Cubs
    Martin Perez, LHP, Rangers
    Ryan Westmoreland, OF, Red Sox
    Tyler Matzek, LHP, Rockies

    ...and more if I have the time.

    Again guys, feedback is essential here. Stances, windups, attributes, etc... I am taking my time with these prospects and am trying to get as much info as possible, such as Strasburg having a dominant fastball, a filthy slider and a changeup that can be there when he needs it; or Heyward and his mammoth power, or Ackley's versatility, etc...

    Don't hold back because with everyone's help, this roster project will be a good one. I am very meticulous about such things as the spelling of names, birthdates, jersey numbers, country of origin, etc... I want to be sure to get these players as realistic as possible.

    I fully plan to take this roster project deep IF 2K patches the edit limit, but I'll do as much as I can regardless. If that means only 50 created prospects and 150 edited players, then that's 200 realistic players that the game did not previously have - and that number is only reliant on the fact that 2K does not figure out how to take off or lessen the edit cap.

    I'll be updating this thread as much as possible, so until then, let's hear that feedback!

    Thanks guys.

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    • mkharsh33
      Hall Of Fame
      • Nov 2006
      • 12783

      #3
      Re: Roster Project

      Sounds really good!! Looking forward to this...

      Here is a great site I use: http://www.mlbdepthcharts.com/

      He keeps lineups & transactions updated to the second...
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      • RockSolid15
        Rookie
        • Oct 2008
        • 20

        #4
        Re: Roster Project

        This is my blog:
        This blog is an archive of scouting information I have observed from my work as a video scouting intern with Baseball Info Solutions.


        Worked for Baseball Info Solutions and logged a lot of data into my blog (including breakdowns on the AFL All-Star Game and Futures Game). This should help you with scouting reports for some prospects that may not be like Baseball America. Also have a document that lists the velocities of every major league pitcher I saw (should have seen everyone that pitched in a game in the majors last year except Chris Tillman) and if that piques your interest, send me a private message.

        I think the blog was good stuff from a scouting standpoint (no longer contribute to it b/c I start working for a big league team in April) and you can take comfort that everything I report on are games that I have actually watched and not taking people's words on it.

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        • mkharsh33
          Hall Of Fame
          • Nov 2006
          • 12783

          #5
          Re: Roster Project

          Thanks for sharing!! Bookmarked it! Will definitely be checking your work out on a regular basis.
          STEELERS INDIANS CELTICS

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          • 12
            Banned
            • Feb 2010
            • 4458

            #6
            Re: Roster Project

            Originally posted by RockSolid15
            This is my blog:
            This blog is an archive of scouting information I have observed from my work as a video scouting intern with Baseball Info Solutions.


            Worked for Baseball Info Solutions and logged a lot of data into my blog (including breakdowns on the AFL All-Star Game and Futures Game). This should help you with scouting reports for some prospects that may not be like Baseball America. Also have a document that lists the velocities of every major league pitcher I saw (should have seen everyone that pitched in a game in the majors last year except Chris Tillman) and if that piques your interest, send me a private message.

            I think the blog was good stuff from a scouting standpoint (no longer contribute to it b/c I start working for a big league team in April) and you can take comfort that everything I report on are games that I have actually watched and not taking people's words on it.
            Awesome stuff, this will definitely be used as a tool in my rosters.

            Congrats on the new job as well... That's very exciting!

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            • 12
              Banned
              • Feb 2010
              • 4458

              #7
              **Update**

              I was able to work on the rosters a little more tonight before bed...

              Guys I added:

              Tyler Matzek
              Domonic Brown
              Starlin Castro
              Jeremy Hellickson
              Ryan Westmoreland
              Martin Perez
              Aaron Hicks

              I also edited Jose Tabata (moved to Pitt), Kyle Drabek (moved to Toronto) and Josh Vitters (moved to CHC).

              Right now, here is how it all looks:

              Jason Heyward, RF, Braves -- 78 overall
              Stephen Strasburg, RHP, Nationals -- 79 overall
              Mike Stanton, OF, Marlins -- 74 overall
              Dustin Ackley, 2B, Mariners -- 74 overall
              Jesus Montero, C, Yankees -- 72 overall
              Pedro Alvarez, 3B, Pirates -- 76 overall
              Desmond Jennings, LF, Rays -- 74 overall
              Carlos Santana, C, Indians -- 73 overall
              Aroldis Chapman, LHP, Reds -- 75 overall
              Justin Smoak, 1B, Rangers -- 76 overall
              Carlos Triunfel, SS, Mariners -- 67 overall
              Tyler Matzek, LHP, Rockies -- 66 overall
              Domonic Brown, OF, Phillies -- 73 overall
              Starlin Castro, SS, Cubs -- 66 overall
              Jeremy Hellickson, RHP, Rays -- 75 overall
              Ryan Westmoreland, OF/DH, Red Sox -- 69 overall
              Martin Perez, LHP, Rangers -- 67 overall
              Aaron Hicks, OF, Twins -- 69 overall

              I edited Vitters and Tabata, and both have high 60's ratings. Drabek is a bit higher at 70, though it could be a little bit higher.

              One thing I'm wondering is whether or not I'm overrating these guys. A 75 for Hellickson might seem high, but the guy has posted absolutely sick numbers and is only still in the minors because he's being blocked in Tampa Bay.

              I started a franchise just to see where the new guys I've made are ending up on the Top 100 list and I was pleased to see that guys like Heyward, Strasburg, Stanton, Brown, Perez and a few others made it into the top 10. The rest were at least included in the top 100.

              More tomorrow... Let's hear some feedback, guys.
              Last edited by 12; 03-20-2010, 03:39 AM.

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              • tonybologna
                MVP
                • Sep 2005
                • 9092

                #8
                Re: Roster Project

                Good to see you doing this. Let's hope we can get additional/unlimited player edits with the next patch. That way you can give us a great roster set. I'll keep myself tuned to this thread. Thanks!
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                • mkharsh33
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 12783

                  #9
                  Re: Roster Project

                  Looks good. Are you also updating the rosters to get them in line with current transactions? Are you creating those players from scratch or using some of the "fake players" that 2k provided? Also, are you using any of the 150 allowable player naming edits or just leaving those alone?

                  Sorry to ask so many questions, but your project looks solid. Thanks!!
                  STEELERS INDIANS CELTICS

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                  • 12
                    Banned
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 4458

                    #10
                    Re: Roster Project

                    Originally posted by mkharsh33
                    Looks good. Are you also updating the rosters to get them in line with current transactions? Are you creating those players from scratch or using some of the "fake players" that 2k provided? Also, are you using any of the 150 allowable player naming edits or just leaving those alone?

                    Sorry to ask so many questions, but your project looks solid. Thanks!!
                    Yeah, I am trying to update other transactions as they happen.

                    Every player so far has been created from scratch, with the exception of Drabek, Vitters and Tabata. They have the right skin color and position, so editing them is easier, plus their overall appearance isn't that bad. I will do this with as many players as I can.

                    What's the easiest site to see recent transactions?

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                    • mkharsh33
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 12783

                      #11
                      Re: Roster Project

                      Transactions: http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/transactions/#month=3&year=2010

                      Also, I use this site for lineups: http://www.mlbdepthcharts.com/

                      He has an excel sheet that you can download with everything as well. Best stuff out there, IMO.
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                      • war_eagle23
                        Rookie
                        • Mar 2010
                        • 27

                        #12
                        Re: Roster Project

                        Is this on the 360 by any chance?

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                        • 12
                          Banned
                          • Feb 2010
                          • 4458

                          #13
                          Re: Roster Project

                          Yep, this roster set will be for the 360.

                          Remember guys, I will take this roster as far as 2K lets me. If they kill the roster restrictions, I will do as much as I can, but as of right now, I can only get 200 realistic players in. Even that is better than nothing at all.

                          If 2K patches the roster edit limit, I'd love to get some guys on board so we could edit all the levels for all teams.

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                          • 12
                            Banned
                            • Feb 2010
                            • 4458

                            #14
                            Re: Roster Project

                            Originally posted by mkharsh33
                            Transactions: http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/transactions/#month=3&year=2010

                            Also, I use this site for lineups: http://www.mlbdepthcharts.com/

                            He has an excel sheet that you can download with everything as well. Best stuff out there, IMO.
                            Thanks, that spreadsheet is pure gold.

                            Hopefully I can get a lot done today.

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                            • Treva94
                              Banned
                              • Jan 2010
                              • 12

                              #15
                              Re: Roster Project

                              Hey Man this project sounds GREAT! But i have a quick question, when second patch comes out, is there any chance that you lose your roster edits? That would suck

                              Anyway, there is a perfect site for each teams top 20 prospects, but it does not have a lot of incite on the prospect. The website is Minorleagueball.com, has every teams top 20.

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