Jason Heyward rated too high too soon?

[bobmoult]

Just finished my 3rd season in franchise mode with the OSfullminorsV1 roster. I'm playing as my SF Giants, but I've noticed Heyward is putting up insane stats. In the first season, he was an All-Star, ROY, with .311 BA and 38 HRs. Next year, MVP with .329 BA and 42 HR. 3rd season, MVP again with .321 BA and 45 HR.

Now I like Jason Heyward as much as the next guy, but I think he's rated alittle too high too soon. I'm all for giving him superstar potential, but right now he is rated as one of the top 20 hitters in baseball.

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Re: Jason Heyward rated too high too soon?

Just finished my 3rd season in franchise mode with the OSfullminorsV1 roster. I'm playing as my SF Giants, but I've noticed Heyward is putting up insane stats. In the first season, he was an All-Star, ROY, with .311 BA and 38 HRs. Next year, MVP with .329 BA and 42 HR. 3rd season, MVP again with .321 BA and 45 HR.

Now I like Jason Heyward as much as the next guy, but I think he's rated alittle too high too soon. I'm all for giving him superstar potential, but right now he is rated as one of the top 20 hitters in baseball.

lets see

- hes the number 1 prospect in the nation
-he homered in his first at bat which is a very rare feat
-scouts compare him to ken griffey jr

i think his ratings are spot on. when your compared to ken griffey jr. people are pretty much saying you will be the greatest of your generation

[rondoman]

Re: Jason Heyward rated too high too soon?

You finished your 3rd season with the rosters that came out Tuesday nite???

Damn.

[Kalon]

Re: Jason Heyward rated too high too soon?

the way he hit that ball...definitely showcases his power...so would you have rated him D power and contact instead of C?

[bobmoult]

Re: Jason Heyward rated too high too soon?

You finished your 3rd season with the rosters that came out Tuesday nite???

Yeah, I mostly sim through the regular season. I like to see how different rosters translate into stats through multiple seasons.

lets see

- hes the number 1 prospect in the nation
-he homered in his first at bat which is a very rare feat
-scouts compare him to ken griffey jr

i think his ratings are spot on. when your compared to ken griffey jr. people are pretty much saying you will be the greatest of your generation

I agree Jason Heyward is a great prospect and has tons of potential. But he's still a prospect. Right now he's rated like a proven superstar. Yeah, he homered in his first at bat, which is rare, but since then he's gone 2-16 with 8 strike outs.

I'm not saying Heyward isn't a good player. But it's gonna take some time before he becomes an all-star.

Give him a A++++ potential, but rate him a bit lower for now please.

[delmaestro]

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lets see

- hes the number 1 prospect in the nation
-he homered in his first at bat which is a very rare feat
-scouts compare him to ken griffey jr

i think his ratings are spot on. when your compared to ken griffey jr. people are pretty much saying you will be the greatest of your generation

wrong, justin upton is the #1 prospect in baseball. faster and more powerful. heyward has better plate discipline but everything else is upton. also HRing in ur first at bat doesnt mean anything. he is a great PROSPECT, but he is still just that, a prospect.

[BHunt7]

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Actually I dont think Justin Upton is considered a "prospect" anymore as he has played a full season and is no longer a rookie... "prospects" (to me anyway) are those who still have rookie status/rookie eligibility

[Jason_19]

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wrong, justin upton is the #1 prospect in baseball. faster and more powerful. heyward has better plate discipline but everything else is upton.

Justin Upton has a ton of power, but Heyward has more power. They are close, though.

[cgalligan]

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for what its worth...

i simmed a season when the game came out with default rosters... i think some of the stat problems are more of a game sim engine thing rather than the persons Heyward Cap... I mean, guys with "C" Batting are hitting .350? how does that work?

anyway... check these stats out....

AL BATTING CHAMP
1. Alex Rodriguez .358avg
2. Joe Mauer .343avg
3. Nick Johnson .326avg
4. Vald Guerrero .316
5. Miggy Cabrera .314

AL HOME RUNS
1. Alex Rodriguez 69 HR
2. Carlos Pena 44 HR
3. Evan Longoria 41 HR
4. Russell Branyan 39 HR
5. Mark Teixeira 39 HR

AL RBI
1. Alex Rodriguez 197 RBI
2. Kendry Morales 131 RBI
3. Migey Cabrera 120 RBI
4. Evan Longoria 113 RBI
5. Vlad Gerrero 113 RBI

AL MVP
Alex Rodriguez (triple crown)
.358avg, 69 HR, 197 RBI

AL CY YOUNG
CC Sabathia
17-6, 3.14era, 240 K

AL ROY
Det 2B - Scott Sizemore
.267avg, 13 HR, 65 RBI, 17 SB

NL BATTING CHAMP
1. Andrew McCutchen .342avg
2. Todd Helton .330avg
3. Joey Votto .323avg
4. Albert Pujols .320avg
5. Ryan Howard .320avg

NL HOME RUNS
1. Ryan Howard 58 HR
2. Albert Pujols 45 HR
3. Mark Reynolds 45 HR
4. Prince Fielder 44 HR
5. Manny Ramirez 42 HR

NL RBI
1. Ryan Howard 138 RBI
2. Albert Pujols 131 RBI
3. Dan Uggla 127 RBI
4. Jason Bay 113 RBI
5. Ryan Bruan 112 RBI

NL MVP
Ryan Howard
.320avg, 58 HR, 138 RBI

NL CY YOUNG
Roy Halladay
19-3, 2.66 Era, 187 K, 5 CG, 1 Shutout

NL ROY
Stephen Strasburg
11-12, 3.22 Era, 196 K

[jvalverde88]

Re: Jason Heyward rated too high too soon?

wrong, justin upton is the #1 prospect in baseball. faster and more powerful. heyward has better plate discipline but everything else is upton. also HRing in ur first at bat doesnt mean anything. he is a great PROSPECT, but he is still just that, a prospect.

But he's been in the league 3 years how is he a prospect?


To the OP, I agree that Jason Heyward is rated a little to high especially for a unproven ML player.

[ElroyJetson]

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lets see

- hes the number 1 prospect in the nation
-he homered in his first at bat which is a very rare feat
-scouts compare him to ken griffey jr

i think his ratings are spot on. when your compared to ken griffey jr. people are pretty much saying you will be the greatest of your generation

yea hes averaging what 220 right now in real life, people getting too much hype on this kid before he's proved anything, also there are quite a few players who homered there first at bat

[yyhy]

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lol...

He hits a homer his first at bat and everyone wants him to be rated like an All-Star... he goes 1-17 or whatever and everyone wants him lowered

He's pressing right now, not showing his usual patience, chopping at balls, he'll be fine though, gobs of talent, but yeah, I haven't even seen his ratings yet, but if he's making All-Star teams in year one, I'd lower him... slightly

[delmaestro]

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Justin Upton has a ton of power, but Heyward has more power. They are close, though.

and how do u figure this? justin upton has much more power and while im on the subject so does mike stanton which doesnt show up in the os roster update. i dont mean to knock heyward, i think he will be a great player and hit for a higher average then upton. but people were talking about uptons power at 18-19 years old as "legendary"

as for me considering upton a prospect, yes, he has been in the league 3 years but he wasnt a starter opening day last year and the dbacks were thinking about demoting him. he is still only 22 and really hasnt scratched the surface of what he can do. 40-30 seems to be the floor with some people thinking he will eventually get to 40-40. He has A LOT of room to grow and thats why i still consider him a prospect

[badmrfrosty7]

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I'd just lower his contact and plate discipline some. He's going to press because it's his first season against Major League pitchers. So he'll obviously get less mistakes to smoke. I'd leave his Vision where it is though cause he is a tough out more often than not. His power's fine cause obviously when he makes contact, he crushes it.

But it's his first year. You gotta give him some areas to grow more. Pitchers will gameplan for him and he's not going to get many good pitches to hit and it will take time to adjust. I know he's going to be a star in no time (mostly next year or the latter half of this year) but the way he's rated now just seemed a little high to be honest. I see him being a .265 hitter with 20-30 homers this year. He's still a kid after all and he's got a tremendous amount of pressure (from the media mostly) to succeed.

Now if only I didn't have to control all 30 teams to make the Braves stop using him as a leadoff guy in my 'chise. Dammit!

[osubeavs721]

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and how do u figure this? justin upton has much more power and while im on the subject so does mike stanton which doesnt show up in the os roster update. i dont mean to knock heyward, i think he will be a great player and hit for a higher average then upton. but people were talking about uptons power at 18-19 years old as "legendary"

as for me considering upton a prospect, yes, he has been in the league 3 years but he wasnt a starter opening day last year and the dbacks were thinking about demoting him. he is still only 22 and really hasnt scratched the surface of what he can do. 40-30 seems to be the floor with some people thinking he will eventually get to 40-40. He has A LOT of room to grow and thats why i still consider him a prospect

i think those people are in your head. Upton has always been a top prospect, but Heyward is the biggest prospect since griffey and there are guys on ESPN and MLB network comparing him to Hank Aaron and Griffey, two of the very best of all time. Upton never got those comparisons ever.