Player ratings and their importance.

[Vikes1]

I'm just wondering how others feel about the player ratings in NHL...and how much they really matter.

I think like every other sports game, the speed rating is always the most visible. So you know that one works/matters. As far as ratings go in NHL, I believe the goalie ratings seem to matter quite a bit. And I like to think other player ratings do too.

At least to me...the higher rated offensive players seem to be better at getting into a better position to score. And much the same for defense men...seem to be in the right spot more often, than a lower rated player. And from time to time...the higher rated AI controlled players will make plays on their own.

So imo..I do think the player ratings at least have some value. What do you guys think?

[SCARFACE909]

Re: Player ratings and their importance.

Yeah, except i think speed is overrated can you really tell a difference between the fastest skater in game to guy who is middle speed? They almost all skate same and move the same way a new skating engine could really help that

[NYwRiter94]

Re: Player ratings and their importance.

The goalie attributes work as such:

If playing against user: +10 to every stat
If playing for user: -10 to every stat

[bill2451]

Re: Player ratings and their importance.

Yeah, except i think speed is overrated can you really tell a difference between the fastest skater in game to guy who is middle speed? They almost all skate same and move the same way a new skating engine could really help that

eh, I disagree

I notice the difference just fine

sure the skating engine isnt great, but its not because speed isnt differentiated imo

[jmon]

Re: Player ratings and their importance.

Speed is pretty good, line up 2 guys of different speeds and skate down the ice, there's a pretty big difference. But players can stop and start way too easily, and can skate backwards, without losing speed, thats the bigger problem than overall player speed.

[Tikker]

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I think there just needs to be a bigger differential in skating speeds, and agility



guys getting open I definitely see a difference, and shooting

you can really see the diff between a big shooting guy, and someone that just has an average shot

[Red71Star]

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Speaking of player ratings, I have a question.. does anyone else wonder why forwards always have better Slap Shot Accuracy than defensemen? Why is that? When you think about it, it makes no logical sense. I guess you could argue that They shoot more (maybe so anyways) than d-men usually do. (No I don't honestly think that, just looking for something). Or that because they're closer to the net more times so their slapshots have a higher chance of going in. (Again, yes it's ridiculous to think that's why).

I know it's not always the case and that someone like Drew Doughty or Mike Green will obviously have a high SS Acc. But across the board, the majority of the time a mediocre fwd will have a better SS Acc than a really good defensemen. And I'm just curious as to why.

[Tikker]

Re: Player ratings and their importance.

i think it has very little to do with actual real life shot accuracy


it probably has more to do with simulation statistics


forwards in general score a LOT more than defenseman, so to reflect that, they get a higher accuracy rating

[shanew21]

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The goalie attributes work as such:

If playing against user: +10 to every stat
If playing for user: -10 to every stat

Seriously.
Goalies need a complete rehaul

[onlybygrace]

Re: Player ratings and their importance.

Seriously.
Goalies need a complete rehaul

There not that bad and totally fixable with the right sliders.

But yes...they still need work.

For instance, if you left the goalie reaction sliders at 3/3, you would be giving a huge advantage to the CPU. I mean...huge. It shouldn't be that way, IMO.

My reaction sliders are like 2/5 or 2/6 or something...and they work great, but I shouldn't have to put them so far apart to get comparable and fair goaltending from both sides.

[Vikes1]

Re: Player ratings and their importance.

There not that bad and totally fixable with the right sliders.

But yes...they still need work.

For instance, if you left the goalie reaction sliders at 3/3, you would be giving a huge advantage to the CPU. I mean...huge. It shouldn't be that way, IMO.

Yep OBG, I suppose that's one of my biggest troubles with not being competitive in my GM mode. Is my foolish insistence on having the goalie reaction speeds at 3/3.

I've gone back and forth with at least lowering the cpu's reaction speed. Only to again...foolishly let myself feel guilty about giving myself a slider advantage with the goal tending. Imo, the lower the cpu's reaction speed...the more human-like they become. If need be, I need to get this though my thick skull, at least for NHL'11'. So I get more realistic outcomes to my GM mode.

[onlybygrace]

Re: Player ratings and their importance.

Yep OBG, I suppose that's one of my biggest troubles with not being competitive in my GM mode. Is my foolish insistence on having the goalie reaction speeds at 3/3.

I've gone back and forth with at least lowering the cpu's reaction speed. Only to again...foolishly let myself feel guilty about giving myself a slider advantage with the goal tending. Imo, the lower the cpu's reaction speed...the more human-like they become. If need be, I need to get this though my thick skull, at least for NHL'11'. So I get more realistic outcomes to my GM mode.

Okay...let me play priest here and purge you of any guilt. You shouldn't feel guilty for tilting the scale in your advantage because it is their programming error that causes such a huge difference between the two. And there is a HUGE difference.

If there is anyone out there who feels guilty about a fair and balanced game...its me...hell, try my sliders out and you'll see what I mean, particularly road games.

Its nothing you should feel bad about. Sucks that you've struggled on the game for 9 months because of this...lol.

[Vikes1]

Re: Player ratings and their importance.

Okay...let me play priest here and purge you of any guilt. You shouldn't feel guilty for tilting the scale in your advantage because it is their programming error that causes such a huge difference between the two. And there is a HUGE difference.

Yep OBG, it can get pretty frustrating feeling as though I've been robbed outta countless goals because of at least at times, superhuman cpu goal tending feats.

But I still do feel as though a lot of the blame for my own failures to score rest with me. Seems as though the two main ingredients to scoring are...shooting low, and actually aiming your shots. Two things I hate to admit I rarely do.

[onlybygrace]

Re: Player ratings and their importance.

Yep OBG, it can get pretty frustrating feeling as though I've been robbed outta countless goals because of at least at times, superhuman cpu goal tending feats.

But I still do feel as though a lot of the blame for my own failures to score rest with me. Seems as though the two main ingredients to scoring are...shooting low, and actually aiming your shots. Two things I hate to admit I rarely do.

...certainly doesn't help. lol