There MAY be an option to manually tell your D-Ends to get up field pre-snap!

[ch46647]

Like many of you I have been watching all of these Madden gameplay videos trying to get a good read on what to expect this year. One thing I noticed is that occasionally (very rarely) you see D-Ends sprint straight up the field like a true pass rush, and other times they just do their usual run straight into the Offensive tackle. This is something I cannot get the D-ends to do in the NCAA demo but I have definitely seen it in a select few Madden videos.

On the pasta-padre video set two (Part 5) with the colts vs. chargers at the 40 second mark exactly pause the video and you can see the guy has the defensive line hot routes up. All of the options are the same as NCAA except for one. The RS up prompt says "pass" where as the RS up prompt in NCAA and previous Maddens is "contain QB". Could this mean that you can manually hit RS up pre-snap and tell your D-Ends to rush up field?

This would be an absolutely HUGE feature if this is the case!

Here is a link to the pastapadre videos. Check out Part 5 at exactly the 40 second mark:

http://www.pastapadre.com/2010/06/17/e3-2010-videos-set-two#more-23487

EDIT: Here is the video I was looking for that shows the D-Ends truly getting up field.... Look at the 10 second mark of this video at the Carolina Left Defensive End... (You cannot get D-ends to do this in NCAA or previous Maddens unless they are human controlled)

http://www.operationsports.com/newspost.php?id=419211

[Senator Palmer]

Re: There MAY be an option to manually tell your D-Ends to get up field pre-snap!

It looks like the same set of options only instead of pressing up to crash the line out which would send to ends sprinting out at an odd angle it has "Pass". Kinda like last gen with the slide protection, they had "spread", now it's "aggressive." So, you may be on to something or it could just be the same mechanic under a different name.

I have noticed ends getting up field in certain situations so MAN I hope you're right. Hopefully, someone who had some hands on can shed some light.

[ch46647]

Re: There MAY be an option to manually tell your D-Ends to get up field pre-snap!

Senator, the "spread" the defensive line is still there. It is LS up and can be seen in the box above the one I am referring too. The "pass" pre-play control is taking the place of "QB contain" in NCAA and previous Maddens..

[Senator Palmer]

Re: There MAY be an option to manually tell your D-Ends to get up field pre-snap!

I see what you're saying. I didn't know the correct word when I said "spread." I meant "crash out". In ten when you hit up once it spreads your line but keeps the linemen's routes the same. Hit it again and it will change the d-linemen's routes to crash out. That's where you get those horrible animations where the ends sprint out and not upfield, and pretty much take themselves out of the play.

I see that "Pass" that has taken the place of the "Crash out". I'm hoping it's not window dressing and actually has functionality, because I have seen a few vids where the ends are getting upfield.

[Nev]

Re: There MAY be an option to manually tell your D-Ends to get up field pre-snap!

I've seen it on NCAA but it seems to be random.

Sometimes he runs right at the tackle but every so often he goes around him and the tackle cant get out quick enough. I'm guessing thats where the O-Tackle's Speed, Agility and Pass Block Footwork come into play.

[TreFacTor]

Re: There MAY be an option to manually tell your D-Ends to get up field pre-snap!

The hot route your referring to puts the end in a short drop zone.... sadly it's an option that has been in the game since defensive hot routes came about. It's in the NCAA demo (highlight the DE, press A for the 360, press up on the right thumb stick). There isn't an option to make your ends sprint so that I have seen. There was in 08 or 09 I believe the ability to time the snap and get a god jump, but that was gone last year.

[at23steelers]

Re: There MAY be an option to manually tell your D-Ends to get up field pre-snap!

I know exactly what you're talking about! I tweeted Ian on it: whats pass mean under the dline preplay snap? His reply was: i think that's the one that forces the DL upfield on pass rush if we're talking about the same thing

[Senator Palmer]

Re: There MAY be an option to manually tell your D-Ends to get up field pre-snap!

Wow. This is good news... if you and Ian were on the same page. I always thought a mechanic like that was needed sense run/pass commit was taken away.

Great find ch46647!

[LBzrule]

Re: There MAY be an option to manually tell your D-Ends to get up field pre-snap!

[Maelstrom-XIII]

Re: There MAY be an option to manually tell your D-Ends to get up field pre-snap!

Well if LBz is happy, then it is probably something good.

[at23steelers]

Re: There MAY be an option to manually tell your D-Ends to get up field pre-snap!

Well if LBz is happy, then it is probably something good.

Well, IMO, this might be a sign of the first ever true pass rush!

[LBzrule]

Re: There MAY be an option to manually tell your D-Ends to get up field pre-snap!

Remember the thread I started about this from about two months ago? Only thing is while things might look right not sure there will be any quick win animations.

[Captain Obvious]

Re: There MAY be an option to manually tell your D-Ends to get up field pre-snap!

what about the olbs in the 3-4? ive seen them spring upfield sometimes. does this work for them to? god if this was true i would jizz my pants

[tlc12576]

Re: There MAY be an option to manually tell your D-Ends to get up field pre-snap!

what about the olbs in the 3-4? ive seen them spring upfield sometimes. does this work for them to? god if this was true i would jizz my pants

Be good for you,bad for your pants!LOL

[ch46647]

Re: There MAY be an option to manually tell your D-Ends to get up field pre-snap!

CONFIRMED!!!

From Ian Cummings Twitter:

@at23steelers i think that's the one that forces the DL upfield on pass rush if we're talking about the same thing


Thanks atsteelers for asking Ian through Twitter!

This is huge, huge, huge news IMO. I agree LBZ that the animations dont neccesarily line up, but if you can atleast tell yuor D-Ends to rush up field whenever you want that will really cut down cheesing where the QB just sprints out everytime. If it plays out like that video I posted then it will be a sack 90% of the time.

One question though, I play with the Ravens who play out of a 3-4. Primarily it is the blitzing outside LB that runs the arching pass rush like the DE in a 4-3. Hopefully they have the same LB hout route that makes blitzing LB's do the same thing.... At23steelers maybe you could tweet Ian and ask him?

I cant believe this hasnt been talked about sooner, this is a little thing that will make a HHHHUUUUUGGGEEE improvement to this game. Thanks Ian and Company!