Bama defensive ratings, any advice?

[smoove7]

My team is BAMA but even I am smart enough to know that there is no way their D should be a 99 so for my offline dynasty I am going to redo the ratings for the D.

For the people who mess with ratings, are their certain websites or stats you look at to determine ratings for a player? I could guess but I want to kind of make it realistic. Some of the defensive starters this year for Bama I believe are rated to highly but there is not much significant playing time to go off of from last year.

[tommycoa]

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[dkrause1971]

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My team is BAMA but even I am smart enough to know that there is no way their D should be a 99 so for my offline dynasty I am going to redo the ratings for the D.

For the people who mess with ratings, are their certain websites or stats you look at to determine ratings for a player? I could guess but I want to kind of make it realistic. Some of the defensive starters this year for Bama I believe are rated to highly but there is not much significant playing time to go off of from last year.

Collegefootballnews.com is a great site for some information on the teams. If its not on the main page. Use the search- maybe try alabama 2010 preview in the search.

[bigbisont]

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For the people who mess with ratings, are their certain websites or stats you look at to determine ratings for a player? I could guess but I want to kind of make it realistic.

I said basically this in a bama rating bashing thread:

If someone wants to re-rate them, thats cool, but who is to say their pyschic powers are any better than yours? Just because someone else posts it online doesnt validate their opinion or mean they are all-knowing. Things WILL change as the season progresses. Anyone claiming "their opinion is the more realistic opinion" before any games get played is just as bad (or good?) as EA. Its all educated guesses regardless who posts it.

You are a fan. you saw them play. Im sure you followed the spring practices and you know the talent level they were stuck behind on the depth chart last year. Go with your gut and rate them appropriately.

[mh3c]

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My team is BAMA but even I am smart enough to know that there is no way their D should be a 99 so for my offline dynasty I am going to redo the ratings for the D.

For the people who mess with ratings, are their certain websites or stats you look at to determine ratings for a player? I could guess but I want to kind of make it realistic. Some of the defensive starters this year for Bama I believe are rated to highly but there is not much significant playing time to go off of from last year.

What? An SEC fan with a foot on reality? No way! Don't let that get out or you might be banned from rooting for the SEC!

[jeremym480]

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As a Bama fan, who plans to run an Offline Dynasty with them, I'm going to lower most everyone (on defense) 3-5 points maybe more. The only exceptions are Mark Barron, Marcell Dareus and Dont'a Hightower. I'll leave them where they're at

[smoove7]

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I said basically this in a bama rating bashing thread:

If someone wants to re-rate them, thats cool, but who is to say their pyschic powers are any better than yours? Just because someone else posts it online doesnt validate their opinion or mean they are all-knowing. Things WILL change as the season progresses. Anyone claiming "their opinion is the more realistic opinion" before any games get played is just as bad (or good?) as EA. Its all educated guesses regardless who posts it.

You are a fan. you saw them play. Im sure you followed the spring practices and you know the talent level they were stuck behind on the depth chart last year. Go with your gut and rate them appropriately.

Well you do have a good point with what you say but my only debate is for example Kirkpatrick, he is an all american prospect but there has not been significant on field playing time to prove that talent level that he has. I think he is a 95 overall, 96 on speed and 95 on agility using default rosters.

He played in 12 games last year and had 8 tackles and 0 ints:

http://www.rolltide.com/auto_pdf/p_hotos/s_chools/alab/sports/m-footbl/auto_pdf/2009-final-stats

So yes he could be an all american but going off last years production, there is nothing there that proves to me he is one of the greatest db's in the country. (although he is going to be.) Psychic powers should not play a roll in determining ratings, on field production should.

[bigbisont]

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He played in 12 games last year and had 8 tackles and 0 ints:

http://www.rolltide.com/auto_pdf/p_hotos/s_chools/alab/sports/m-footbl/auto_pdf/2009-final-stats

So yes he could be an all american but going off last years production, there is nothing there that proves to me he is one of the greatest db's in the country. (although he is going to be.) Psychic powers should not play a roll in determining ratings, on field production should.

And his 12 games played were while battling nagging injuries and almost exclusively on special teams! His tackles from the punt coverage team are not an indication of his coverage skills. Look, im not saying he deserves his 95 rating. im just saying that when people say a guy cant have a high rating because of lack of on the field history, its crap! Breakout players happen every year. EA just gambled the bama guys break out.

Look at the RBs from Pitt, VA Tech, and Oregon. Some werent even IN the game last year, but if EA had rated them highly enough to predict what would become their real life on the field production, preseason roster downloaders would have raised hell because there were 'overrated' with no history to base it on.

Make no mistake. In deciding if a player is good, too good, or underrated before a game ever gets played, it is 100%, undeniably and unmistakably trying to excercise your "pyschic powers". But the unforeseeable is what makes it fun.

[Coach Bryant]

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Like someone said in another thread Saban has a proven record of developing players into major contributors quickly at Alabama. No one knows for certain what guys are going to step up on the field until the story of next season unfolds. However, I do know for certain that I am excited about next season!

I am enjoying all the love that Alabama is getting.

[smoove7]

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Yeah I could agree with that, if there is barely any on the field production, then a rating does have to come from somewhere and it is a good thing that players like Dre have such talent to get a 95 overall.

My only issue remains that there are many players which come to college highly recruited and 5 star only to not have that talent level from high school turn into that same talent level in college.

But you are right in the fact that if there is not much playing time then you go off of expectations and a player like Dre for example has huge expectations and I really hope he lives up to that 95 rating.

[choadler]

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The ratings just don't make alot of sense. Give a guy a 95 that has seen limited playing time doesn't make sense. He is rated higher than guys that will be probably 1st round draft picks. Obviously there needs to be some sort of prediction on how they will perform, but to rate him higher than people that have actually proven it on the field is a bit much for me. He is rated higher than the entire Texas secondary who have proven their performance on the field and which all three cornerbacks will be in the NFL, 1 being a 1st round nfl pick and the other two at least being in the top 4 rounds.

I haven't checked to see his ratings in relation to the LSU DB, but if it is higher than his rating, then that is just ludicrous. I do understand there is some ratings inflation for teams that win, but to see 8 all americans on one defense when there are 120 teams, is just dumb.

[jeremym480]

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Like someone said in another thread Saban has a proven record of developing players into major contributors quickly at Alabama. No one knows for certain what guys are going to step up on the field until the story of next season unfolds. However, I do know for certain that I am excited about next season!

I am enjoying all the love that Alabama is getting.

I couldn't agree more. But, with that being said I'm still going to "dumb down" my team a bit. Mainly just for my own enjoyment because I won't find it to much fun blowing out other SEC team's by 40-50 points in offline dynasty.

[smoove7]

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I couldn't agree more. But, with that being said I'm still going to "dumb down" my team a bit. Mainly just for my own enjoyment because I won't find it to much fun blowing out other SEC team's by 40-50 points in offline dynasty.

Man that is money right there. I mean Bama has a saban defense but inexperience is the key word for me. We have loads of talent but a lot of inexperience on defense as well. That inexperience does not translate into a 95 rating. I am going to say for example Dre for me is like an 88 or so because of his raw talent BUT experience on a college football field plus talent gets you a 95 rating.

[frnkpw13]

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you can look at their overalls and compare them to what madden gives first round guys with it usually between 78-82 overall. that is for first round guys. so if u think that CB from bama is a first round talent, then u would have to rate him way lower than a 95 ovr until he proves it on the field imo.

also take a look at what the 5 and 4 star guys overalls are when u recruit one. if the top 5 recruits in the nation are getting 84 ovr and under, wouldnt u treat the 95 ovr CB (dre) as a 5 star recuit tooand lower him to like 84 ovr?

am i making sense?

i think im defienatly going through a few of the higher college teams rosters and doing some lower using this strategy.

[smoove7]

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frnkpw, that is a good idea. TY