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  • Tailaw21
    Rookie
    • Jul 2010
    • 10

    #1

    Speed Adjustments

    In my dynasty we've created a system to adjust speed ratings.
    We simply take a known 40 time and what year the player is ...

    Clocked Time Class Deduction
    4.25 and below = 99 l Freshman - minus 2
    4.26 -4.28 = 98 l Freshman(RS) or Soph - minus 1
    4.29 - 4.31= 97 l Soph (RS) Junior - no deduction
    4.32 - 4.34= 96 l Junior(RS) or Senior - no deduction
    every .02 and so on
    4.38-4.40= 94
    4.50 -4.52=90
    4.59-4.61=87
    4.68-4.70 = 84
    EX.
    Jeff Demps Jr. (Fl Gators) clocked at 4.23 and 4.25 = 99 speed ( no argument there )
    LaMichael James (Ore Ducks) clocked at a 4.38 = he has a 97 on the game (problem = should be 94 as a Soph (RS) we dont deduct = 94 Speed )
    DeMarco Murray (Ok Sooners) clocked @ 4.35 = he has an 82 (WTF = should be 95 speed and as a senior no deductions so 95 speed)


    we adjust both ways to be fair - as SPEED heavy as the game is it also SCREWS some true speedsters out there (Murray (OU), R. Williams (VT),T.Taylor (VT), J. Locker (UW))

    This system helps to lower and raise speed to be fair.

    EA has players like C. Byndom (CB from Tx Longhorns) who is a true freshman, who's fastest time clocked is 4.45 but he has 97 speed ... the entire FSU linebacker squad runs 4.45s should they be in the high 90s too? We just don't think so. C. Byndom's 4.45 would equal a 92 but a 90 as a freshman deducts 2 - training will build his speed to where it needs to be (around 92 or so) but definitely not a 97+.

    We also take a deduction for the bigger the athlete is ... like we said FSU, MIAMI, UF all have those 6'4 235+lb linebackers running 4.4s ... so in addition to the class deductions if the player is are over 225 also deduct 2 rating pts. This is to say take a player like Nigel Bradham (FSU LB) who runs a 4.48 from getting a 91 speed and placing that at a 89.
  • ManOfLaMange
    Rookie
    • Jul 2009
    • 35

    #2
    Re: Speed Adjustments

    This sounds like a really cool and thoughtful approach to the bane of the NCAA ratings system, but does this take into account the acceleration numbers for this year? For instance, I know Darren Evans ships with 83 speed, which would leave him pretty slow by your chart, but he has 96 acceleration, and when I play with him he doesn't feel like any other NCAA's 83 speed.

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    • Tailaw21
      Rookie
      • Jul 2010
      • 10

      #3
      Re: Speed Adjustments

      Originally posted by ManOfLaMange
      This sounds like a really cool and thoughtful approach to the bane of the NCAA ratings system, but does this take into account the acceleration numbers for this year? For instance, I know Darren Evans ships with 83 speed, which would leave him pretty slow by your chart, but he has 96 acceleration, and when I play with him he doesn't feel like any other NCAA's 83 speed.
      Well with ACC i feel like they dont do a player a terrible injustice when it comes to their overall performance- i feel like its pretty standard per position. Exception being Tony Gregory whom i know should have a little better than a 72 as a RB ... but as far as Darren Evans ( 4.56 forty - of course he clocked a faster time this year but my cousins (Logan Thomas and Zack McCray) won't respond to me right now to find out but using that 4.56 he translates to a 88 speed which i think is pretty accurate when u put him in a race w/ David and Ryan and hes ACC would accurately describe his explosiveness
      Last edited by Tailaw21; 07-15-2010, 09:03 PM.

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      • ace70078
        Rookie
        • May 2009
        • 126

        #4
        Re: Speed Adjustments

        I see both arguments, but I have to agree, some guys have been gypped. For instance, there is no way this guy has 72 speed.



        Actually, Locker's acceleration isn't that great. I would put him at about 90SPD and 84ACC. 85AGI

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        • khaliib
          MVP
          • Jan 2005
          • 2884

          #5
          Re: Speed Adjustments

          Unfortunately, the game uses letter grades for attributes which makes it harder to know what a player's SPD/ACC would be. I've found that the letter grades do not aquate across every position (don't know if this is good or bad).

          AGL also affects the speed of a player as they move.

          I wish they would allow us to set the attribute threshold for each position, this would help sooooo much.

          Good thought!!

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          • iBalllikelasik
            Rookie
            • May 2010
            • 28

            #6
            Re: Speed Adjustments

            Yeah, Jake Locker should be 88-90 in my opinion.
            PSN: iBall87

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            • elliottcarbone
              Rookie
              • Jul 2007
              • 227

              #7
              Re: Speed Adjustments

              smart post... I have been thinking the same thing being I am going to have to overhaul my Miami roster. This is a great way to dictate speed for each player...
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              • orangeafroman
                Rookie
                • Jul 2010
                • 375

                #8
                Re: Speed Adjustments

                Yeah, Murray's speed is absurd...but if you change it to merely 92, he becomes the best player in the game, and he hasn't produced nearly on that level.

                I lowered his break tackle to 85 and trucking to 80, but he's still at a 96 rating with the 92 speed....eh.

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                • bigbisont
                  Rookie
                  • Aug 2008
                  • 20

                  #9
                  Re: Speed Adjustments

                  Originally posted by orangeafroman
                  Yeah, Murray's speed is absurd...but if you change it to merely 92, he becomes the best player in the game, and he hasn't produced nearly on that level.

                  I lowered his break tackle to 85 and trucking to 80, but he's still at a 96 rating with the 92 speed....eh.

                  Is there a "fragility" ranking for Murray? ...ha, i crack myself up.

                  I kid, but i do see the logic there. Pretty cool idea. Only problem is the same problem every 40 time faces. Shorts and a variable-thumbed stop-watch isnt the same thing as full pad game speed. But very cool ideas.

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                  • bigpimpin4
                    Rookie
                    • Jul 2010
                    • 3

                    #10
                    Re: Speed Adjustments

                    So far this has worked out for our Dynasty. It all evens out because of the speed thrushhold slider which i found. for the ones who haven't seen it yet this raises or lowers the minimum actual in game speed for players. A low setting will create the greatest speed difference between the slowest and fastest players in the game; a higher setting will narrow the disparity between slow and fast players. i feel that if i recruit a players with 96 speed a person who get a player that is 88 speed should not keep up with my player but since we up some players speed their overall has jumped and this sliders seems like it evens the playing field a little but it just my thought

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                    • FSUfan1
                      Rookie
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 97

                      #11
                      Re: Speed Adjustments

                      Bert Reed is the fastest Seminole clocking in at 4.31 electronic. His speed should be at least 94-95 on the game.

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                      • Tailaw21
                        Rookie
                        • Jul 2010
                        • 10

                        #12
                        Re: Speed Adjustments

                        Originally posted by FSUfan1
                        Bert Reed is the fastest Seminole clocking in at 4.31 electronic. His speed should be at least 94-95 on the game.
                        This is true and in my dynasty his speed is 97 as by my speed adjustments

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                        • bigpimpin4
                          Rookie
                          • Jul 2010
                          • 3

                          #13
                          Re: Speed Adjustments

                          EA need to hire us to make Ncaa 2012 rating system. We could make it right.

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                          • gigem
                            Rookie
                            • May 2010
                            • 227

                            #14
                            Re: Speed Adjustments

                            Originally posted by bigpimpin4
                            EA need to hire us to make Ncaa 2012 rating system. We could make it right.
                            No kidding, im gonna be spending the next couple weeks fixing these rosters.

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                            • 123abcdylan
                              Pro
                              • Mar 2010
                              • 622

                              #15
                              Re: Speed Adjustments

                              what roster are you gonna do that with

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