einstein's Heisman sliders
 

Decided to throw my hat into the ring (been reading these boards since 2004 and I think this is my first post!)... I initially played on default AA until I was shutting out the CPU just about every game. Next I tried Playmaker's Varsity sliders which held my interest for a few games, but there were too many times when defenders simply did not react to what was happening around them. So I reluctantly moved to Heisman, where I ended up last year. I play mostly 8 minutes and with a zero speed threshold (more on that later). I mostly use PSU (my school) or my created team Shippensburg (wife's school).

Anyway here are my sliders and a shot of the spreadsheet I have been using to make modifications. I want a challenging game that does not feel cheap (like the CPU breaking 30 tackles or my receivers continually dropping passes uncontested). I play FS exclusively and rarely change players. I'm pretty sure I started w/ NJ's sliders and modified to my liking.

HUM/CPU
QA: 40/35
PB: 35/0
WC: 55/45
RA: 45/45
RB: 55/30
PC: 100/30 - from my testing, 25 gives too large a delay in CPU reaction time, 35 has CPU reacting before the receiver
PR: 30/0
INT: 15/0
RD: 30/35
TAK: 45/40
FP: 40/30
FA: 40/45
PP: 45/45
PA: 50/65
KO: 40/45
Speed: Slow
Threshold: 0

The only complaints are that it seems like my receivers have the ball knocked out of their hands much more frequently than the CPU, and (I have felt for years) that my defenders just don't play the ball like the CPU's defenders play the ball.

What I have seen with the zero threshold is that my quick players can get around the corner in the backfield when they should be able to, and that when a quick player gets into the open field, he is likely gone. I have NOT seen WRs flying past DBs as has been mentioned many times on these boards. Rarely do I see separation between a WR and a DB. LBs are a different story, as they should be. Maybe it's because I have crappy receivers or because I don't user catch, I don't know.

You may notice that some of the games listed are 4-min quarters - just played these for a quick test. I'm really just trying to make it somewhat challenging without feeling cheap. Thanks for reading!

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Talk about an underwhelming response. Nevertheless, I am undeterred. My goal again is to create a challenging game which also yields realistic statistics. I re-evaluated AA and again came to the conclusion that unfortunately, it is impossible to achieve both of these objectives simultaneously.

So I wanted to update with the last six games from my OD, two played by me, and two each played by the other two members of my OD.

The line graphs show human (red) vs. CPU (blue) results in the solids colored lines. The black dotted line shows the real averages from PSU last year. The colored dash lines are trend lines for a better comparison over the six games. We are playing 7 minutes now but will be moving to 8, which should give better results for total plays and yardage. Hopefully, score will not get too inflated.

The pie charts show the average over six games for human (red) vs. CPU (blue).

To me, these numbers look very good. Also, the game is challenging against good opponents, but not impossible.

I HOPE the rest of you are tracking your statistics over time, to differentiate between trends and anomalies. I was hoping for some feedback on my methodology, even if nobody uses my sliders specifically. I'm curious how the rest of you are coming to your conclusions. Maybe this is too in the weeds for some, I don't know (I can't be the only engineer here...).

Re: einstein's Heisman sliders
 

Kind of random I have noticed you have gotten absolutely 0 feedback so I am about to try these out my only question is are these low scoring? I am SO sick of putting up 45+ points a game....

Re: einstein's Heisman sliders
 

What is the game speed?

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Wow all I can say is wow. Im in my USC franchise and im #3 and im playing at home vs #7 OREGON and I am leading 10-7 at the half I cannot believe these sliders are so good this really is great I'm going to continue the game and post stats in a bit. but overall great set

Re: einstein's Heisman sliders
 

Are you guys using 0 thres?

Re: einstein's Heisman sliders
 

I might have to check these out! The stats you are showing look pretty good to me!

Re: einstein's Heisman sliders
 

Yea 0 thresh Oh my goodness **** WIN to keep my perfect season alive I made a comeback to win the game in dramatic fashion 24-21 this was an amazing game and it played so realistically oh my I cant believe I almost lost Here's the stats:

<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" /><link href="http://pujols4mvp.webs.com/osdyn/osdyn.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" /></head><body><center><div id="osdyn"><div id="hdr-grey-sml" style="text-align:center;">NCAA Scoreboard - Oregon (CPU) () at USC (ME) ()</div><table align="center" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="1" class="tblspacer" style="border-top:0;"><tr class="evenrow"><td valign="top" width="60%"><table align="center" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="1" class="tblspacer"><tr class="colhead-sml"><td align="left" width="58%"><span class="type5">August 7, 2010</span></td><td align="center" width="8%"><span class="type5">1</span></td><td align="center" width="8%"><span class="type5">2</span></td><td align="center" width="8%"><span class="type5">3</span></td><td align="center" width="8%"><span class="type5">4</span></td><td align="center" width="10%"><span class="type5">F</span></td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="left"><span class="type1">#7</span> <span class="type2">Oregon (CPU)</span></td><td align="center"><span class="type2">7</span></td><td align="center"><span class="type2">0</span></td><td align="center"><span class="type2">7</span></td><td align="center"><span class="type2">7</span></td><td align="center" style="background:#CC0000;"><span class="type6">21</span></td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="left"><span class="type1">#3</span> <span class="type2">USC (ME)</span></td><td align="center"><span class="type2">7</span></td><td align="center"><span class="type2">3</span></td><td align="center"><span class="type2">3</span></td><td align="center"><span class="type2">11</span></td><td align="center" style="background:#CC0000;"><span class="type6">24</span></td></tr></table><div id="hdr-grey-sml" style="text-align:left; text-indent:3px;">Top Performers</div><table align="center" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="1" style="border-top:0;"><tr class="colhead-sml"><td align="left"><span class="type5">Oregon (CPU) - Stats</span></td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="left"><span class="type2">N. Costa-17/29 344 Yards 3 TD</span></td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="left"><span class="type2">T. Jackson III-4 TACK 1 INT</span></td></tr><tr class="colhead-sml"><td align="left"><span class="type5">USC (ME) - Stats</span></td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="left"><span class="type2">C. Gable-4 Rec 81 Yards 1 TD 7 ATT 43 yards 1 TD</span></td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="left"><span class="type2">A. Bradford-28 ATT 138 yards Long 17</span></td></tr></table></td><td valign="top" width="40%"><div id="hdr-grey-sml" style="text-align:left; text-indent:3px;">Team Stats Comparison</div><table align="center" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="1" style="border-top:0;"><tr class="colhead-sml"><td width="60%"></td><td align="right" width="20%"><span class="type5">USC</span></td><td align="right" width="20%"><span class="type5">Oreg</span></td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="left"><span class="type2">First Downs</span></td><td align="right"><span class="type2">12</span></td><td align="right"><span class="type2">24</span></td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="left"><span class="type2">3rd Down Efficiency</span></td><td align="right"><span class="type2">7-14 (50%)</span></td><td align="right"><span class="type2">5-12 (41%)</span></td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="left"><span class="type2">4th Down Efficiency</span></td><td align="right"><span class="type2">0-0 (0%)</span></td><td align="right"><span class="type2">0-0 (0%)</span></td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="left"><span class="type2">Total Yards</span></td><td align="right"><span class="type2">279</span></td><td align="right"><span class="type2">437</span></td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="left"><span class="type2">Passing Yards</span></td><td align="right"><span class="type2">244</span></td><td align="right"><span class="type2">255</span></td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="left"><span class="type2">Rushing Yards</span></td><td align="right"><span class="type2">35</span></td><td align="right"><span class="type2">182</span></td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="left"><span class="type2">Penalties-Penalty Yards</span></td><td align="right"><span class="type2">3-45</span></td><td align="right"><span class="type2">2-20</span></td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="left"><span class="type2">Turnovers</span></td><td align="right"><span class="type2">0</span></td><td align="right"><span class="type2">2</span></td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="left"><span class="type2">Time of Possession</span></td><td align="right"><span class="type2">12:54</span></td><td align="right"><span class="type2">25:28</span></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td colspan="2"><div id="hdr-grey-sml" style="text-align:left; text-indent:3px;">Scoring Summary</div><table align="center" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="1" style="border-top:0;"><tr class="colhead-sml"><td align="left" colspan="3"><span class="type5">First Quarter</span></td><td align="center"><span class="type5">USC</span></td><td align="center"><span class="type5">Oreg</span></td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center" width="8%"><span class="type2">Oreg</span></td><td align="center" width="8%"><span class="type2">2:24</span></td><td align="left" width="68%"><span class="type2">TD USC: C. Gable 1 Yd run</span></td><td align="center" width="8%"><span class="type2">0</span></td><td align="center" width="8%"><span class="type2">7</span></td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center" width="8%"><span class="type2">USC</span></td><td align="center" width="8%"><span class="type2">1:21</span></td><td align="left" width="68%"><span class="type2">TD Oreg J. Maehl 45 Yd [*** from N. Costa</span></td><td align="center" width="8%"><span class="type2">7</span></td><td align="center" width="8%"><span class="type2">7</span></td></tr><tr class="colhead-sml"><td align="left" colspan="3"><span class="type5">Second Quarter</span></td><td align="center"><span class="type5">USC</span></td><td align="center"><span class="type5">Oreg</span></td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center" width="8%"><span class="type2">Oreg</span></td><td align="center" width="8%"><span class="type2">1:08</span></td><td align="left" width="68%"><span class="type2">FG USC: J. Harfman 30 Yd FG</span></td><td align="center" width="8%"><span class="type2">7</span></td><td align="center" width="8%"><span class="type2">10</span></td></tr><tr class="colhead-sml"><td align="left" colspan="3"><span class="type5">Third Quarter</span></td><td align="center"><span class="type5">USC</span></td><td align="center"><span class="type5">Oreg</span></td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center" width="8%"><span class="type2">USC</span></td><td align="center" width="8%"><span class="type2">5:28</span></td><td align="left" width="68%"><span class="type2">TD Oreg: D. Davis 6 Yd pass from N. Costa</span></td><td align="center" width="8%"><span class="type2">14</span></td><td align="center" width="8%"><span class="type2">10</span></td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center" width="8%"><span class="type2">Oreg</span></td><td align="center" width="8%"><span class="type2">2:38</span></td><td align="left" width="68%"><span class="type2">FG USC J. Harfman 29 Yd FG</span></td><td align="center" width="8%"><span class="type2">14</span></td><td align="center" width="8%"><span class="type2">13</span></td></tr><tr class="colhead-sml"><td align="left" colspan="3"><span class="type5">Fourth Quarter</span></td><td align="center"><span class="type5">USC</span></td><td align="center"><span class="type5">Oreg</span></td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center" width="8%"><span class="type2">USC</span></td><td align="center" width="8%"><span class="type2">7:14</span></td><td align="left" width="68%"><span class="type2">TD Oreg: L tuinei 12 Yd pass from N. Costa</span></td><td align="center" width="8%"><span class="type2">21</span></td><td align="center" width="8%"><span class="type2">13</span></td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center" width="8%"><span class="type2">Oreg</span></td><td align="center" width="8%"><span class="type2">6:26</span></td><td align="left" width="68%"><span class="type2">TD USC C. Gable 52 Yd pass from M. Barkley (2-pt)</span></td><td align="center" width="8%"><span class="type2">21</span></td><td align="center" width="8%"><span class="type2">21</span></td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center" width="8%"><span class="type2">Oreg</span></td><td align="center" width="8%"><span class="type2">0:00</span></td><td align="left" width="68%"><span class="type2">FG USC: J Harfman 36 Yd FG ***Gane Winner***</span></td><td align="center" width="8%"><span class="type2">21</span></td><td align="center" width="8%"><span class="type2">24</span></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td colspan="2"><div style="float:left; width:292px;"><div id="hdr-custom-sml" style="background-color:#000000; text-align:left; text-indent:3px;">Oregon (CPU)</div><table align="center" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="1" class="tblspacer" style="border-top:0;"><tr class="colhead-sml"><td align="left" width="44%"><span class="type5">Passing</span></td><td align="right" width="14%"><span class="type5">C/ATT</span></td><td align="right" width="14%"><span class="type5">YDS</span></td><td align="right" width="14%"><span class="type5">TD</span></td><td align="right" width="14%"><span class="type5">INT</span></td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="left"><span class="type2">N. Costa</span></td><td align="right"><span class="type2">17/29</span></td><td align="right"><span class="type2">244</span></td><td align="right"><span class="type2">3</span></td><td align="right"><span class="type2">0</span></td></tr><tr class="colhead-sml"><td align="left"><span class="type5">Rushing</span></td><td align="right"><span class="type5">ATT</span></td><td align="right"><span class="type5">YDS</span></td><td align="right"><span class="type5">AVG</span></td><td align="right"><span class="type5">TD</span></td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="left"><span class="type2">L. James (Injured)</span></td><td align="right"><span class="type2">1</span></td><td align="right"><span class="type2">12</span></td><td align="right"><span class="type2">12.0</span></td><td align="right"><span class="type2">0</span></td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="left"><span class="type2">K. Barner</span></td><td align="right"><span class="type2">10</span></td><td align="right"><span class="type2">25</span></td><td align="right"><span class="type2">2.5</span></td><td align="right"><span class="type2">0</span></td></tr><tr class="colhead-sml"><td align="left"><span class="type5">Receiving</span></td><td align="right"><span class="type5">REC</span></td><td align="right"><span class="type5">YDS</span></td><td align="right"><span class="type5">AVG</span></td><td align="right"><span class="type5">TD</span></td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="left"><span class="type2">L. Tuineii</span></td><td align="right"><span class="type2">4</span></td><td align="right"><span class="type2">49</span></td><td align="right"><span class="type2">12.2</span></td><td align="right"><span class="type2">1</span></td></tr></table></div><div style="float:right; width:292px;"><div id="hdr-custom-sml" style="background-color:#000000; text-align:left; text-indent:3px;">USC (ME)</div><table align="center" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="1" class="tblspacer" style="border-top:0;"><tr class="colhead-sml"><td align="left" width="44%"><span class="type5">Passing</span></td><td align="right" width="14%"><span class="type5">C/ATT</span></td><td align="right" width="14%"><span class="type5">YDS</span></td><td align="right" width="14%"><span class="type5">TD</span></td><td align="right" width="14%"><span class="type5">INT</span></td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="left"><span class="type2">M. Barkley</span></td><td align="right"><span class="type2">18/29</span></td><td align="right"><span class="type2">255</span></td><td align="right"><span class="type2">1</span></td><td align="right"><span class="type2">1</span></td></tr><tr class="colhead-sml"><td align="left"><span class="type5">Rushing</span></td><td align="right"><span class="type5">ATT</span></td><td align="right"><span class="type5">YDS</span></td><td align="right"><span class="type5">AVG</span></td><td align="right"><span class="type5">TD</span></td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="left"><span class="type2">A. Bradfor(Eclipsed 1,00 Yds on the Season)</span></td><td align="right"><span class="type2">28</span></td><td align="right"><span class="type2">138</span></td><td align="right"><span class="type2">4.9</span></td><td align="right"><span class="type2">0</span></td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="left"><span class="type2">C. Gable (Leading the nation in touchdowns)</span></td><td align="right"><span class="type2">7</span></td><td align="right"><span class="type2">43</span></td><td align="right"><span class="type2">6.1</span></td><td align="right"><span class="type2">1</span></td></tr><tr class="colhead-sml"><td align="left"><span class="type5">Receiving</span></td><td align="right"><span class="type5">REC</span></td><td align="right"><span class="type5">YDS</span></td><td align="right"><span class="type5">AVG</span></td><td align="right"><span class="type5">TD</span></td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="left"><span class="type2">K. Prater (True Freshman)</span></td><td align="right"><span class="type2">4</span></td><td align="right"><span class="type2">37</span></td><td align="right"><span class="type2">9.2</span></td><td align="right"><span class="type2">0</span></td></tr></table></div></td></tr></table><div align="right"><span class="type2"><a href="http://dynasties.operationsports.com" target="_blank"><b>OperationSports.com</b></a></span></div></div></center></body></html>