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  • SilverChaosVII
    Pro
    • Jul 2007
    • 559

    #1

    Imported NCAA Draft Classes

    Well, I decided to do some experimenting in franchise after playing a quick game. (I need sliders :P)

    I have simulated through 3 seasons, all 3 with NCAA Draft classes.

    I'm having some major concerns... remember these are only for the imported draft classes. I haven't looked at the Madden classes yet. Those may be ok, and I may end up using those.

    Quarterbacks: Only one quarterback has come in over 75 overall in the last 3 years. I won't mention who, but he is now an 80 overall. The 3rd and most recent class... BIG BIG problems. The ratings of EVERY qb drafted in the 3rd season... 59, 57, 57, 56, 56, 55, 54, 54, 52, 47, 34 .... This has me VERY worried.

    Running Backs: Actually look pretty good. Star guys coming in around 80. Two of them have progressed into the 90s already. Everything looks good here. Minus one thing.... players don't hold true to what they are. Noel Devine came in as the second best player in his class at running back... which makes sense. BUT his speed is 88... UMMMMMMMMMM????? Yeah... problem there

    Wide Receiver. Much like quarterbacks at first. The highest rated WR from the last 3 drafts is currently a 84. That's ok. Most star WR are coming in at the mid 70s and progressing slowly. Not sure where that's going.

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    Everything else looks. My only real concern is with the quarterbacks. I'm not sure if it's just my classes, or if this is a major problem. I'll go recreate all 4 classes in NCAA tomorrow and test it again. Hopefully will get some different results.

    Other than this, everything looks pretty solid. (Stats look fantastic. Very realistic)

    Edit: I think I found the problem. Almost every rookie from these draft classes have an awareness under 50. That is why the QB ratings are sooooo low, because awareness plays a big part in their overall rating. These quarterbacks have about 30 awareness which automatically drops them sooo far.
    Last edited by SilverChaosVII; 08-10-2010, 01:30 AM.
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  • SilverChaosVII
    Pro
    • Jul 2007
    • 559

    #2
    Re: Imported NCAA Draft Classes

    Ok, well I just restarted and simmed one season again....

    Again, big problems at quarterback. The highest rated rookie QB, 65 overall.

    Jake Locker came in at a 62...

    The main thing I'm noticing is that all of their awareness ratings are under 50, some as low as in the 20s... this is probably due to NCAA's awful ratings to begin with... but I'm not sure :/

    OMG... now that I look at it, it's like that for every position.

    Every rookie from these draft classes have an awareness under 60. Most are down around 30-45
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    • sniperhare
      MVP
      • Dec 2009
      • 1145

      #3
      Re: Imported NCAA Draft Classes

      The speed thing is annoying, these draft class issues are what I wanted to see the devs answer the most.

      Apparently people are working on a program that will let you manually edit roster files in NCAA, then they can find out what causes what ratings to equal what in Madden and we could finally get good realistic draft classes.

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      • Hskr8128
        Rookie
        • Sep 2003
        • 54

        #4
        Re: Imported NCAA Draft Classes

        This is what I was scared of. This along with no improvement to franchise mode is why I'm not buying Madden 11.

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        • TomBrady
          Rookie
          • Oct 2009
          • 425

          #5
          Re: Imported NCAA Draft Classes

          Every rookie from these draft classes have an awareness under 60. Most are down around 30-45
          Thats pretty realistic IMO, if they just had fixed progression for AWR.

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          • Romeclone
            Rookie
            • Nov 2004
            • 364

            #6
            Re: Imported NCAA Draft Classes

            Well with it being pretty much equal with QB awareness, maybe EA did that to simulate the struggles of a noob QB like Manning or Aikman.

            If that's the case however, they should get huge AWR jumps in between year one and two; then it should just flatten out to regular progression.

            I don't know, this has always been wonky on next gen. Just digging for some possible answers.

            Another thing to look at would be the Madden gen guys. If they are programed the same way coming in, then that should give us a clue if they did that on purpose.

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            • The Barnacle
              Banned
              • Jul 2010
              • 115

              #7
              Re: Imported NCAA Draft Classes

              The speed dropping of players is the most annoying thing with any sports Dynasty/Franchise in any game. I hate that so much. But I like how things are actually looking somewhat better.

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              • SilverChaosVII
                Pro
                • Jul 2007
                • 559

                #8
                Re: Imported NCAA Draft Classes

                The awareness rating doesn't bother me. It just effects the overall rating SOOOO much for quarterbacks that it is absolutely destroying their overall rating which makes it so CPU teams won't use them. So basically they are worthless

                And remember, I did go 3 seasons. None of the rookie quarterbacks from season 1 progressed above a 75 in those three years...
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                • The Barnacle
                  Banned
                  • Jul 2010
                  • 115

                  #9
                  Re: Imported NCAA Draft Classes

                  Originally posted by SilverChaosVII
                  The awareness rating doesn't bother me. It just effects the overall rating SOOOO much for quarterbacks that it is absolutely destroying their overall rating which makes it so CPU teams won't use them. So basically they are worthless

                  And remember, I did go 3 seasons. None of the rookie quarterbacks from season 1 progressed above a 75 in those three years...
                  Would you overall say that this years Importing is better than last years.

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                  • SilverChaosVII
                    Pro
                    • Jul 2007
                    • 559

                    #10
                    Re: Imported NCAA Draft Classes

                    Originally posted by The Barnacle
                    Would you overall say that this years Importing is better than last years.
                    I honestly wouldn't be able to tell you. I didn't buy NCAA last year so I never imported any classes.

                    Overall, I think it looks ok... minus the speed/rating issue (which is a big deal with running backs and wide receivers). The quarterbacks awareness problem. Everything else looks pretty good. You would have a few studs each class mid to high 80s... a few in the low 80s... a bunch of 70s and 60s... and then the last rounders in the 50s and 40s.
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                    • OriolesFanRD
                      Rookie
                      • Jun 2005
                      • 361

                      #11
                      Re: Imported NCAA Draft Classes

                      This is good to know. Quick question though, must I own NCAA (or Rent) like last year in order to obtain the draft classes? I'm guessing yes, but I wasn't sure so I thought I'd ask. This years game isn't too bad from what I've played thus far. Definitely appealing to the casuals, though.
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                      • sniperhare
                        MVP
                        • Dec 2009
                        • 1145

                        #12
                        Re: Imported NCAA Draft Classes

                        Just got to the first draft, no QB was 1st round caliber. Stanzi was the lone 2nd.

                        Locker, Mallet, Ponder were all 4th-5th, Pryor was undrafted along with Luck.

                        Mallet for some reason had 84 THP and 50 THA, Ponder was 79 THP 60 THA.

                        Speed ratings were all screwed up for skill players and the like. Mark Ingram has 4.28 speed, Noel Devine is a 4.48 guy.


                        What did EA fix? They said they improved this?

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                        • Spooky
                          Husker Power
                          • Dec 2009
                          • 238

                          #13
                          Re: Imported NCAA Draft Classes

                          Couldn't we just copy a thread from 2006 and re-paste it each year? Why are people still surprised when they see this, lol. Isn't that the definition of insanity. Doing the same thing multiple times and expecting different outcomes.

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                          • mems1224
                            Rookie
                            • Aug 2008
                            • 461

                            #14
                            Re: Imported NCAA Draft Classes

                            did they at least fix the age thing? last year everytime i imported the same draft class the ages would vary. like colt mccoy would be 22 one time, then the next time i import that class he's 24 and it did that for every player.

                            idk how they can screw up draft classes and then not even address it. it boggles the mind.

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                            • SilverChaosVII
                              Pro
                              • Jul 2007
                              • 559

                              #15
                              Re: Imported NCAA Draft Classes

                              Looks like I will be using the generated classes unless they fix this quick

                              Hopefully the generated ones aren't screwed up lol
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