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  • jf28
    Rookie
    • Mar 2009
    • 118

    #1

    Missing features from previous Maddens

    Just something I wanted to check out for my own amusement. These are the last 7 years of Madden features before 10, per IGN's site for each game (chose to start at '03 because to be fair, since '02 they were worrying about creating for X-Box). Not counting general gameplay improvements, and going based on 360/PS3 (making a feature for PS2/X-Box that isn't in the game now is a failure even if it never made this gen), I'll try to look at the 5 biggest things each year.

    Madden 2003
    Online play - Still in
    New audio team - All out
    Create-a-playbook - Out
    Ask Madden - Replaced by gameflow/gameplan, so half a point
    General franchise improvements - Many still in
    Total: 2.5 out of 5 still in

    Madden NFL 2004
    Owner mode - Out
    Playmaker control - Out
    Create-a-playbook - Out
    Training camp - Out
    Coaching staff hiring - In
    Total: .5 out of 5 still in

    Madden NFL 2005
    Hit stick - Still in
    Player morale - Out
    Storyline Central - Out
    Create-a-fan - Out
    Defensive hot routes - In
    Total: 2 of 5 still in

    Madden NFL 06
    Superstar mode - Half point, still in but a complete failure due to no evolution
    Vision cone - Out (sadly, because it was an interesting feature that would solve many existing game problems, but that's beside the point)
    Precision Passing - In
    Truck stick - In
    Gameplan preparation - Out
    Total: 2.5 out of 5, this was, by their standards, a fantastic year despite needing to develop the 360 version

    Madden 2007
    Lead blocker control - Out
    Highlight stick - Meh, I'll say in due to the litany of new broken tackle animations it led to even though it doesn't exist in that form anymore
    Different types of jukes with triggers and right stick - Out
    Madden gamer level - Out
    Player roles in franchise - Out
    Total: 1 out of 5 in

    Madden 08
    Weapons - Out
    100 attributes - Out
    Skill drills - Out
    Gang tackling - In
    Hit stick 2.0 - In
    Total: 2 out of 5 in

    Madden 09
    User celebrations - Out
    Virtual training center for Madden IQ - Out
    Madden IQ - In
    Tom Hammond & Chris Collinsworth (hyped enough to be a major feature) - .5
    Online leagues - In
    Total: 2.5 out of 5 in


    Only 13 out of 35 still in (37%)

    2 things that are impossible not to notice
    1. That is a pathetic rate. Seriously, that is just sad. But more importantly,
    2. Not all of the missing features were bad to the point that they should be out. There's no reason for vision cone not to be optional (this could FIX the problem with the CPU QB's getting the ball off impossibly quickly when they're about to get sacked). Or to not have create-a-playbook. Or user celebrations. Or the virtual training center to determine Madden IQ. Or player morale. Or some form of training camp.


    Why are so many critical features simply exiled from the game after a year or two? I know some suck, but some were actually decent.
  • delspf
    Rookie
    • Mar 2004
    • 458

    #2
    Re: Missing features from previous Maddens

    This is why i gave up on Madden. How long have people been asking for basic things, like expanded rosters? Some franchise updates? Instead we get year in and year out of "new improved" features that just get yanked out a year or two later for some other new improved feature.
    Can't believe I been a member here this long

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    • canes21
      Hall Of Fame
      • Sep 2008
      • 22948

      #3
      Re: Missing features from previous Maddens

      Wow. Didn't think it was that bad. Explains why I have not really had much fun next gen. PS2 days were awesome. I never compared Madden to 2k5, I just couldn't decide which to play. Now I am constantly comparing the two because Madden in my eyes has not topped 2k5.

      If Madden had all the features plus some, than I doubt we'd still have the same negative vibe for Madden every year.
      “No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth.”


      ― Plato

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      • marktwain77
        Rookie
        • Jan 2010
        • 111

        #4
        Re: Missing features from previous Maddens

        remember "build a new stadium" in owner mode? That was AWESOME!

        Create a coach (was also awesome)

        college all-star game

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        • franch1se
          All Star
          • Apr 2004
          • 9061

          #5
          Re: Missing features from previous Maddens

          don't forget the Tony Bruno show

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          • Stikskillz
            Rookie
            • Nov 2008
            • 228

            #6
            Re: Missing features from previous Maddens

            Great post OP!

            Your breakdown shows exactly why the game has been stale over the years. Just a few more things I will add to the list:

            1. John Madden himself is out. He would be great to have back in the booth for 3 man commentary. Him and Collinsworth could have great dialogue and Gus could deliver his intensity. Sounds like a good crew to me. As a bonus there could be a sideline reporter. Imagine that...

            2. Offline/online user profile stats

            3. EA Locker for online franchises. No need for the current format when the EA Locker allowed you to take your offline chise online with all of the features. In addition, the EA Locker could be used for roster sharing.

            4. Where did the retro teams go from the 90s, 80s, 70s, and 60s?

            So that now brings us to 13 out of 41 = 31.7 or 32%. Not getting better.
            Will > Skill.
            SF Giants, 49ers, Warriors
            Just let your soul glo...feeling all so silky smoove!

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            • Golden81
              Banned
              • Sep 2008
              • 360

              #7
              Re: Missing features from previous Maddens

              Originally posted by marktwain77
              remember "build a new stadium" in owner mode? That was AWESOME!

              Create a coach (was also awesome)

              college all-star game
              create a coach yeah I remember reading in a interview a few years ago about how they might put it in as a NEW feature next year.. well its not new, we had a sideline reporter too btw

              to answer the question its $$$$$ they make money out of recycleing a prodcut they will never make the perfect game for that reason. imagine if they gave us exapanded rosters with no limits like the PC version didnt take out features or unis no one would buy madden again

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              • phillysouljah
                Rookie
                • Jul 2010
                • 346

                #8
                Re: Missing features from previous Maddens

                Let's get real... some of these features were extremely unpopular, failed miserably, and/or better solutions have been found for the problems they addressed... For example, the QB vision cone which fills all three of the above. It was created to differentiate QB's but it turns out that they did a great job of differentiating QB's just by adding short, medium, and long accuracy values.

                Not all features should make a return. And some, like weapons, were just plain silly.
                Last edited by phillysouljah; 08-10-2010, 11:58 PM.

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                • jf28
                  Rookie
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 118

                  #9
                  Re: Missing features from previous Maddens

                  Originally posted by Golden81
                  create a coach yeah I remember reading in a interview a few years ago about how they might put it in as a NEW feature next year.. well its not new, we had a sideline reporter too btw

                  to answer the question its $$$$$ they make money out of recycleing a prodcut they will never make the perfect game for that reason. imagine if they gave us exapanded rosters with no limits like the PC version didnt take out features or unis no one would buy madden again
                  I'm not sure I agree with your last point. I mean, I would have bought a complete Madden last year just for Pro-Tak (I ended up NOT buying it last year because it didn't have the other features I wanted that they had taken out), and I think plenty of people would have bought it this year for the new locomotion engine and dual stick control.

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                  • Brooklynbks4
                    Pro
                    • Aug 2008
                    • 537

                    #10
                    Re: Missing features from previous Maddens

                    remeber player holdouts that was nice as well as helmets flying off after a big hit
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                    • likebuttababy11
                      Rookie
                      • Aug 2007
                      • 96

                      #11
                      Re: Missing features from previous Maddens

                      Originally posted by phillysouljah
                      Let's get real... some of these features were extremely unpopular, failed miserably, and/or better solutions have been found for the problems they addressed... For example, the QB vision cone which fills all three of the above. It was created to differentiate QB's but it turns out that they did a great job of differentiating QB's just by adding short, medium, and long accuracy values.

                      Not all features should make a return. And some, like weapons, were just plain silly.
                      It is adequate but far from a great job,I still see QBs that have 90s for short accuracy and they have a hard time throwing a 5 yard out to a wr wide open,I still see great QBs throwing the ball out of bounds on deep throws,guys like Manning,Brees should have pinpoint accuracy but they still do what I said unless the AI controls them,then they are unstoppable....I miss the online lockers,best feature ever to grace madden...too bad EA gave up on it!

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                      • jf28
                        Rookie
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 118

                        #12
                        Re: Missing features from previous Maddens

                        Another thing I just realized that they took out that STILL isn't back in: RESTRICTED FREE AGENCY. How do you not have one of the cornerstones of managing a team in the game?

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                        • Jesus
                          Banned
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 1860

                          #13
                          Re: Missing features from previous Maddens

                          How i miss player roles

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                          • The Visualizer
                            Rookie
                            • Jul 2009
                            • 419

                            #14
                            Re: Missing features from previous Maddens

                            two things I really miss are:

                            1) The Formation Sub option in the Pause Menu and for Franchise. I think this has been gone since 06 on last-gen systems, was nice to be able to setup your packages beforehand, manually subbing players in and out of whatever formation. I don't think packages were in the game yet. Wish they would put this back in so I could setup formations for specific running backs and make sure my top LB's and pass rushers are in on Nickel and Dime packages, oh well maybe next year.

                            2) Being able to call random plays from any formation or the entire playbook in practice mode on O and D. I used to love setting plays on random O vs random D and labbing it up.



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                            • Faizon
                              Pro
                              • Jul 2007
                              • 503

                              #15
                              Re: Missing features from previous Maddens

                              I really enjoyed the Tony Bruno show

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