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  • mrjordan
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    • Apr 2005
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    #1

    MrJordan's Historic NFL Teams POST PATCH File For Download (Xbox360)

    Ok I know you guys have been asking for this...
    Special thanks to RaiderKtulu for old school NFL logos and endzones and gjsii13 for the newer ones. EvilIam for testing a bit, and NYeph1 for our phone conversation...

    Also thanks to
    FlyingFinn for the editor!!!

    It's V1 because I know after getting feedback, tweaking will be needed, but I have succeeded in getting a strong running game as well as getting speed rusher sacks off the edge. Great defenses are hard as nails and weak defenses can be had. Great running backs are amazing and great passing games are tough to stop. Realism is the key.
    Feedback appreciated.

    The file is attached below.

    Donate link HERE

    TEAMS:

    I heartily recommend you watch the real life historic videos to get an idea of who the players are on these teams, and how they played...it will make the experience even more fun and realistic!

    1985 Bears -http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blUVhK_qY_U
    1976 Raiders- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhOe17GDNoY
    1975 Cards- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0E4XT0ZuQzQ
    2000 Ravens - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rIlLlQyyCk
    1999 Rams - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XmiA1n_v2I
    2007 Patriots- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skii-jh8Mv0
    1999 Titans-http://www.hulu.com/watch/124075/tea...nnessee-titans
    1997 Lions - http://www.hulu.com/watch/124070/tea...-detroit-lions
    1998 Falcons- http://www.hulu.com/watch/124131/tea...tlanta-falcons
    1998 Broncos- http://www.hulu.com/watch/123701/ame...denver-broncos
    1991 Chiefs- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OO-w04DUv4
    1990 Bills- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmxsoF1id6Y
    1986 Giants - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRLeueZ8ZvA
    1989 49ers- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrSXu7hQF-E
    1989 Eagles- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLzkBm9Ljhg (91 but close enough)
    1978 Cowboys- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chi_c4XZeaI
    1983 Redskins- http://www.hulu.com/watch/151815/tea...ngton-redskins
    1999 Jags- http://www.hulu.com/watch/124126/tea...nville-jaguars
    1980 Chargers -http://www.hulu.com/watch/151758/tea...diego-chargers
    1978 Steelers- http://www.hulu.com/watch/123684/ame...burgh-steelers
    1979 Bucs- http://www.hulu.com/watch/151805/tea...bay-buccaneers
    1979 Saints- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftW30mIPKYs
    1976 Vikings - http://www.hulu.com/watch/151788/team-highlights-1976-minnesota-vikings-
    1981 Bengals- http://www.hulu.com/watch/151763/team-highlights-1981-cincinnati-bengals
    1980 Browns-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__ESYTSd6kI
    1972 Dolphins -http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_zUOAyVgQM
    1962 Packers- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfyZRtqhMFI
    1976 Colts
    1985 Jets
    1979 Oilers (in the Texans slot)
    1984 Dolphins in the Seahawks slot
    1973 Bills in the Panthers slot

    Apologies to Seahawks, Panthers and Texans fans.
    Personal choice to include Marino's Fins, OJ's Bills and Oilers in place of those. Also personal choice not to duplicate teams that I or Capa (A great historic roster maker who came before me) have already created / rated for ESPN 2k5.


    RATINGS
    based on http://www.pro-football-reference.com
    All players created and rated, with extra players (4 TE, 4 FB, etc) taken from nearby seasons.


    The testing mode I used is:
    MEDIUM
    AVERAGE FORM
    CUSTOM
    NO ROUTE DISPLAY/STEERING OR PLAYER HIGHLIGHT

    For testing purposes, and for realism, I tried to remove my sticks skills (or lack thereof) from the mix.

    On offense, I always played as the player, with the "ask coach" to give me plays and pick one play out of the 4 that seems to suit the team best. I actually enjoy playing as the QB and handing the ball off.

    On defense, I play as the free safety to give the CPU a good chance to run and they should average 4 ypc on average.

    So this gives you a CPU vs CPU type matchup (as close as anyone can get) to tell how teams really play as the CPU.
    I play as a player, not as a coach, so if coach calls a run play, I run it, He calls pass, and I pass it, punt and i punt it, etc...

    On offense, I try not to run outside too much and i consider fatigue in the RBs (play sim- don't give the RB the ball 6 times in a row because that is not realistic). I try to run inside usually because its somewhat easier outside, but again don't run the RB more then 2-3 times in a row because that's not how a real team would play)

    REMEMBER TO HOLD RIGHT STICK DOWN AND HOLD RT WHEN CATCHING TO AVOID DROPS POST-PATCH.

    Enjoy.
    thanks,
    MJ
    Attached Files
    Last edited by mrjordan; 09-06-2010, 08:25 PM.
  • boooey
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    • Aug 2007
    • 836

    #2
    Re: MrJordan's Historic NFL Teams POST PATCH File For Download (Xbox360)

    awesome!
    gonna load it up and give my 76 Raiders a try.

    Unfortunately they did not have great RB's.. would of loved to have the 83 Raiders with Marcus Allen, or early 90's Raiders with Marcus and Bo in the same backfield.. now that was a 1-2 punch!

    will provide some feedback.. thanks!!

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    • mrjordan
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      • Apr 2005
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      Re: MrJordan's Historic NFL Teams POST PATCH File For Download (Xbox360)

      http://www.pro-football-reference.co...s/rai/1976.htm

      Mark van Eeghen 1012 yds, 4.3 ypc
      Clarence Davis 114- 516 yds, 4.5 ypc

      NOT BAD!
      MJ

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      • boooey
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        • Aug 2007
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        Re: MrJordan's Historic NFL Teams POST PATCH File For Download (Xbox360)

        just played Raiders (me) vs Bucs.. love the old orange bucs colors

        the game defiantly plays different.. I will give you that.
        and I got destroyed!
        The Bucs ran and passed all over me. I could barely stop them.

        I am liking the amount of pressure vs being able to run the ball. I think you are on to something here.
        Running felt good.. I was able to run, and got stuffed at times.. and even got in with some pressure also a few times on defense.

        But my biggest complaint though is that Ken Stabler was wildly inaccurate. If I threw any kind of bullet pass, it was way off target, and even wide open receivers were missed on standards throws.. it was brutal.

        Stabler couldn't hit the side a a freakin barn..
        I will try some other teams next, and see what kind of results I get.. but Stable definitely needs a ratings boost.

        but I can tell you put a lot of work into these ratings.. the game certainly plays different!
        thanks again

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        • mrjordan
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          • Apr 2005
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          Re: MrJordan's Historic NFL Teams POST PATCH File For Download (Xbox360)

          Originally posted by boooey
          just played Raiders (me) vs Bucs.. love the old orange bucs colors

          the game defiantly plays different.. I will give you that.
          and I got destroyed!
          The Bucs ran and passed all over me. I could barely stop them.

          I am liking the amount of pressure vs being able to run the ball. I think you are on to something here.
          Running felt good.. I was able to run, and got stuffed at times.. and even got in with some pressure also a few times on defense.

          But my biggest complaint though is that Ken Stabler was wildly inaccurate. If I threw any kind of bullet pass, it was way off target, and even wide open receivers were missed on standards throws.. it was brutal.

          Stabler couldn't hit the side a a freakin barn..
          I will try some other teams next, and see what kind of results I get.. but Stable definitely needs a ratings boost.

          but I can tell you put a lot of work into these ratings.. the game certainly plays different!
          thanks again
          thanks man, I appreciate it. The Bucs were a GREAT defensive team, ( Allowed 237 points (14.8/g), 1st in the league), though weak offensively. That could explain Stabler's skittishness. The Raiders meanwhile had a weak pass defense, so that probably allowed the Bucs some passing room.

          Please tell me what settings you played on, and please post stats!!!!

          Try Stabler against another team and let me know more specifics, so i can dig in for V2...if he needs a boost, no problem, he will get it!
          thanks,
          MJ
          Last edited by mrjordan; 09-06-2010, 10:59 AM.

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          • statnut
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            • Jul 2004
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            Re: MrJordan's Historic NFL Teams POST PATCH File For Download (Xbox360)

            I had some accuracy issues with Simms against the Eagles last night, where he'd overthrow receivers running routes towards the sidelines. I had some success running the ball, but it wasn't great by any means (20 carries, 46 yards). However, I realized I was running the ball the way I had been before (holding RT and the right stick down), which is no longer necessary, so I was able to get some 4-6 yard runs up the middle once I stopped doing that!

            It definitely plays different, and there was certainly alot of work put into it, great work thus far!

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            • mrjordan
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              Re: MrJordan's Historic NFL Teams POST PATCH File For Download (Xbox360)

              Originally posted by statnut
              I had some accuracy issues with Simms against the Eagles last night, where he'd overthrow receivers running routes towards the sidelines. I had some success running the ball, but it wasn't great by any means (20 carries, 46 yards). However, I realized I was running the ball the way I had been before (holding RT and the right stick down), which is no longer necessary, so I was able to get some 4-6 yard runs up the middle once I stopped doing that!

              It definitely plays different, and there was certainly alot of work put into it, great work thus far!
              thanks man...but...
              your name is Statnut and you dont post stats???
              Stats and settings please!
              Thanks,
              MJ
              Last edited by mrjordan; 09-06-2010, 12:04 PM.

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              • falcons21
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                • Aug 2010
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                Re: MrJordan's Historic NFL Teams POST PATCH File For Download (Xbox360)

                Hi mj sorry for taking forever to get back w/you.heres my thoughts.The running seems good but guys like barry sanders can break long runs on hard very easy on hard i can i mean.The one thing weird is i noticed the wr's and cb's have 50's spd and run in slow motion compared to say derrick thomas.I know you made stars fast so they stand out which is awesome but the wr's and cb';s need at least 75 plus spd.75 being for slow guys.I think this rosters has tons of potential if that is addressed.Remember in the nfl wr's and cb's are generally and have always been the fastest position on the field.I know your stars at these positions are fast enough but if i have say 58 spd as a db and im against rice he can run past me and be open everytime.

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                • boooey
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                  • Aug 2007
                  • 836

                  #9
                  Re: MrJordan's Historic NFL Teams POST PATCH File For Download (Xbox360)

                  Just played the 84 Phins against the Eagles.. I had to shut the game off early, so dont have stat lines.. but again it was kind of difficult to pass with Marino, or it was more difficult than it should of bee i think.

                  I could tell the accuracy of Marino vs Stabler though.. Marin did throw a harder bullet pass, and was more accurate, but her still miss on quite a few routes.

                  Again, the Eagles pretty much moved the ball up and down the field on me at times.
                  CPU offense definitely appears to be better than my defense at times, and I noticed a lot of broken tackles with these rosters also.. yet a had some nice pressure, and even a few sacks.. its a strange mix.. i have to play some more to get a better feel.. I have only had a few minutes here and there to play.. (I'm married with a kid, so not lots of free time here).

                  So far, QB accuracy is standing out as an issue.. but going to play some more, and try different teams/matchups.

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                  • statnut
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                    • Jul 2004
                    • 566

                    #10
                    Re: MrJordan's Historic NFL Teams POST PATCH File For Download (Xbox360)

                    Originally posted by mrjordan
                    thanks man...but...
                    your name is Statnut and you dont post stats???
                    Stats and settings please!
                    Thanks,
                    MJ
                    This was at 230 am last night lol. I should be able yo give stats later.

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                    • mrjordan
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                      • Apr 2005
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                      Re: MrJordan's Historic NFL Teams POST PATCH File For Download (Xbox360)

                      Originally posted by boooey
                      Just played the 84 Phins against the Eagles.. I had to shut the game off early, so dont have stat lines.. but again it was kind of difficult to pass with Marino, or it was more difficult than it should of bee i think.

                      I could tell the accuracy of Marino vs Stabler though.. Marin did throw a harder bullet pass, and was more accurate, but her still miss on quite a few routes.

                      Again, the Eagles pretty much moved the ball up and down the field on me at times.
                      CPU offense definitely appears to be better than my defense at times, and I noticed a lot of broken tackles with these rosters also.. yet a had some nice pressure, and even a few sacks.. its a strange mix.. i have to play some more to get a better feel.. I have only had a few minutes here and there to play.. (I'm married with a kid, so not lots of free time here).

                      So far, QB accuracy is standing out as an issue.. but going to play some more, and try different teams/matchups.

                      Thanks, I really need to know your settings and get a bit of stats to really understand what you're seeing.
                      When you get a chance...
                      thanks,
                      MJ

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                      • mrjordan
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                        • Apr 2005
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                        #12
                        Re: MrJordan's Historic NFL Teams POST PATCH File For Download (Xbox360)

                        Added real life videos of all teams in post #1.
                        It's fun to see your team in real historic action and then compare to how they play in the game...
                        thanks,
                        MJ

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                        • mgoblue678
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                          • Jul 2008
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                          #13
                          Re: MrJordan's Historic NFL Teams POST PATCH File For Download (Xbox360)

                          I know you said you tested these on Medium, but do you think they would work well on Hard too? I just can not get enough of a challenge out of the CPU on medium no matter what rosters I use. Played two games with these so far and that seems to be the case. Overall though the game does play alot better with this roster, running game is much better and the pass rush still seemed to be there, great job man.

                          Edit: So I played a game on hard, 1998 Denver Broncos(me) vs the 1978 Pittsburgh Steelers. I won 14-7. Here are the stats:

                          Total Yards
                          DEN- 240
                          PIT- 101

                          Passing Yards
                          DEN- 111
                          PIT- 72

                          Rushing Yards
                          DEN- 129
                          PIT- 35

                          1st Downs
                          DEN-12
                          PIT -5

                          J. Elway- 9 of 23 128 yards 0 td 2 int
                          T.Bradshaw- 10 of 21 83 yards 1 td 1 int

                          T.Davis - 25 carries 125 yards 2 tds
                          F.Harris- 14 carries 25 yards

                          Like I said human running game is obviously better with your roster. Running inside is still difficult, but I was able to pick up some short 3 to 4 yard gains. Unfortunately I may have to put the game down for good simply because the CPU offense is anemic no matter roster I use or difficulty I play on. The CPU playcalling logic is pretty awful as well which doesn't help things whatsoever.

                          Still think you did a great job on the roster and it certainly plays better, but there are just things that are wrong with the game that can't be corrected by rosters.
                          Last edited by mgoblue678; 09-07-2010, 07:09 PM.
                          My Teams

                          College: Michigan Wolverines
                          NHL: Detroit Red Wings
                          NBA:Detroit Pistons
                          MLB: Detroit Tigers

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                          • mrjordan
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                            Re: MrJordan's Historic NFL Teams POST PATCH File For Download (Xbox360)

                            Originally posted by mgoblue678
                            I know you said you tested these on Medium, but do you think they would work well on Hard too? I just can not get enough of a challenge out of the CPU on medium no matter what rosters I use. Played two games with these so far and that seems to be the case. Overall though the game does play alot better with this roster, running game is much better and the pass rush still seemed to be there, great job man.
                            Thanks!
                            It should work on hard. Try it out. Another thing you can try is lowering your team focus by 10 points for each of the players on YOUR team and see if that helps.
                            That oughta make it real hard on yerself!
                            thanks,
                            MJ

                            edit: to your edit, I see in your next post you found quite the opposite...
                            Last edited by mrjordan; 09-07-2010, 09:50 PM.

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                            • mgoblue678
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                              • Jul 2008
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                              Re: MrJordan's Historic NFL Teams POST PATCH File For Download (Xbox360)

                              Hmmm maybe I jumped the gun on the CPU offense being anemic because the 1999 Rams just lit me up playing as the 1980 Chargers. I lost 34-14 and they certainly looked like the greatest show on turf.

                              Total Yards
                              STL- 349
                              SD- 214

                              Passing Yards
                              STL-251
                              SD-162

                              Rushing Yards
                              STL- 98
                              SD- 52

                              Kurt Warner- 12 of 18 for 268 yards 3 tds 0 ints
                              Dan Fouts- 16 of 32 for 215 yards 1 td 2 ints

                              Marshall Faulk- 15 carries for 78 yards 1 td(3 catches for 78 yards and 1 td)
                              Chuck Muncie- 17 carries for 52 yards 1 td

                              I.Bruce- 2 catches for 103 yards 2 tds
                              T.Holt- 4 catches for 63
                              My Teams

                              College: Michigan Wolverines
                              NHL: Detroit Red Wings
                              NBA:Detroit Pistons
                              MLB: Detroit Tigers

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