What do you dislike most about Madden?

[maltliquor84]

There are really only a few things that tick me off when I play.

1) Suction blocking and tackling. In real life if a defender has a step on an o-lineman and is faster he is going to beat him, hands down, unless the o-lineman holds or gets lucky. I'm tired of beating the dude off the line and getting a step around him only to be sucked back in more a blocking animation. I've been robbed of so many qb sacks and hurries this year and it's getting super old.

2) Broken tackles. If I send in an elite LB on a rub blitz and he gets to the rb on the pitch, the rb is going down 9 times out of 10, but not in Madden. Most of the time the RB breaks the first tackle and it's getting old. I am calling the right plays and it should reflect, but too often it doesn't make a difference and the RB just shakes off the tackle and carries on.

3) Physics. Strength and size seem to have very little to do with anything and everything seems to be all based off animations instead of actual physics. When a player is at the goal line, stops and then jumps 8 yards deep over my d line, WTF is that?

[lewis584]

Re: What do you dislike most about Madden?

Your second point is meant to have been addressed with the latest patch.

For me, the biggest let down is Franchise mode.... It's also the only mode I play so it obviously isn't causing me too many problems but I really do hope it gets a HUGE overhaul for M12.

[maltliquor84]

Re: What do you dislike most about Madden?

Your second point is meant to have been addressed with the latest patch.

For me, the biggest let down is Franchise mode.... It's also the only mode I play so it obviously isn't causing me too many problems but I really do hope it gets a HUGE overhaul for M12.

Franchise mode is okay. It has all the basic elements to be fun, and even though it isn't very deep it's not shallow. I do like it, but it's getting old.

I am seriously hoping they make next years franchise mode like HC 09 and allow you to develop your players based on their performence and how they practice. I would also like to see the ability to offer incentive based contracts as well as a player who has a breakout year ask for a better contract, not just because of his rating but based on how well he adds to the team.

[ZoneKIller]

Re: What do you dislike most about Madden?

Franchise is boring.No consequences for having a losing team.

Its nothing like PS2 version.

No replay value at all.

[guaps]

Re: What do you dislike most about Madden?

There are really only a few things that tick me off when I play.

1) Suction blocking and tackling. In real life if a defender has a step on an o-lineman and is faster he is going to beat him, hands down, unless the o-lineman holds or gets lucky. I'm tired of beating the dude off the line and getting a step around him only to be sucked back in more a blocking animation. I've been robbed of so many qb sacks and hurries this year and it's getting super old.

2) Broken tackles. If I send in an elite LB on a rub blitz and he gets to the rb on the pitch, the rb is going down 9 times out of 10, but not in Madden. Most of the time the RB breaks the first tackle and it's getting old. I am calling the right plays and it should reflect, but too often it doesn't make a difference and the RB just shakes off the tackle and carries on.

3) Physics. Strength and size seem to have very little to do with anything and everything seems to be all based off animations instead of actual physics. When a player is at the goal line, stops and then jumps 8 yards deep over my d line, WTF is that?

All three are actually centered around physics, so a proper physics-engine should solve your mentioned dislikes.

For me there are many things, but if I were to narrow it down to three things I'd say physics, the passing system and the ratings system as the franchise mode is already being revamped for Madden 12.

As I've mentioned else where I think the ratings and potential system needs an extreme make-over and preferably from EA Canada.

[Sausage]

Re: What do you dislike most about Madden?

I am not sure if I dislike anything, but what hurts Madden 11 most for me is in my opinion how great NCAA 11 gameplay and presentation is for ME. Madden 09 and NCAA 10 were so awful, that Madden 10 felt like the greatest football game ever and I played it right until NCAA 11 released.

[Franchise408]

Re: What do you dislike most about Madden?

What I dislike most is the coding of the game that makes it difficult to find a balance and challenge.

I've tried lots of different sliders, and the game always ends up being either too difficult or too easy.

It's very frustrating playing a game where ratings don't matter - I.E. I could have a 99 catch rated receiver who drops passes because the coding needs to artificially simulate a challenge. I have o-linemen with 90 ratings in pass blocking who get tossed aside like nothing by CPU controlled role players on the d-line.

Really, this is my biggest gripe. I can deal with the actual game flow (not to be confused with GameFlow) not being a 100% accurate representation of NFL football (even the BEST of the BEST sports games are still just that - video games - and have unrealistic, "video game" type occurrences)

But it is frustrating when there is no balance to be found in the difficulty sliders, because all the sliders do is tell the AI to either beat you on a play, or let you beat them. I have not found a setting or set of sliders that actually consider individual player ratings, strengths and weaknesses that allow the players on the field, and the matchups, to determine the game instead of a pre-determined outcome decided simply by how far to the left or right you have a slider.

I also hate that the on field play is also determined so greatly by animations - animations that really have no business happening. Like, for instance, smaller scat backs pushing and falling forward against 2 big beefy linebackers trying to push him back.

[TomBrady]

Re: What do you dislike most about Madden?

Suction blocking and overpowered arm tackles.

[TreFacTor]

Re: What do you dislike most about Madden?

-Suction blocking
-animations control the outcome of a play
-false steps by defense (gives the offense a step on any defender covering slants or curls)
-repetitive and over used animations (7 people being blocked the same way)
-no consecutive hit tackles
-presentation still sucks (yes ESPN NFL 2K5 still trumps Madden)
-online cheese (can't really be helped, but they do little to combat it)
-Micro transactions
-No random weather in offline franchise
-inaccurate rosters
-draft classes suck unless you use NCAA imported classes

[colkilla]

Re: What do you dislike most about Madden?

i hate that things are broken that the team refuses to fix. for example, there are tons of artwork bugs (uniforms not showing up when you select them), no dirty uniforms, etc. stuff like that bugs (no pun) me for some reason. if a game plays terrible or you don't like the way it plays, that is one thing, but for the game to have aspects that appear to be broken though the intent was there just sucks...

[Old School SD Fan]

Re: What do you dislike most about Madden?

I think besides the morphing where a player goes from one spot to another three feet away in the next frame (a longstanding flaw in their animation system), the lack of physics. It's compounded by the fact that the generated players (at least) often don't physically resemble their weight.

Example, I have a 6'2" RB, 210 lbs, and visually he looks MUCH bigger and heavier, like a power back, than my actual power back, a guy that is 5'11" and 235.

As for who RUNS like a power back, it's typically the guy with the 99 break tackle rating which at least amongst generated players could be a 5'6" 170 lb. Darren Sproles clone. Weight seems to be a non-factor in Madden when football is a sport where it is a significant factor.

[boooey]

Re: What do you dislike most about Madden?

no consecutive hit tackles for me..
that is just such a basic and fundamental part of any football game, and for players to just bounce off of an invisible force field when trying to tackle someone who is already engaged is a joke.

I just can't get past that fact because it happens on almost every play.
this must be fixed, or its BackBreaker for me until then..

[raguel]

Re: What do you dislike most about Madden?

OL/DL interaction, and OL play in general.

pass defense in general (I only played one game, but I still saw the same problems as I always did. I'll play some more this weekend, maybe).


eta: Someone up thread mentioned sliders. My problem is that I'm sure i can adjust them such that losses would be more common, but in my experience it doesn't make the game more fun. For example, I don't mind a pass blocking slider that makes the OL weaker, but I have a serious problem if it makes them dumber. Dumb players, as in real life, just frustrate me to no end.

[ac-greasy]

Re: What do you dislike most about Madden?

1) the "switch man" logic isn't right..meaning when I switch men while playing defense it doesn't give the right guy (last gen this was not an issue)

2) your players on defense don't respond to the button pushes meaning when I hit triangle to jump and defend a pass, it doesn't do either.

3) no skill passing (putting "touch" on the ball is irrelevant and you have zero control of the location of the pass)

4) suction blocking

5) can't play a two player (user controlled) franchise/season online (w/ cpu stat tracking for non user controlled games)

I'll stop now...

[threes_co]

Re: What do you dislike most about Madden?

Defensive players making contact w/ ballcarriers and not making the tackle