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  • AbsoluteFury
    Rookie
    • Apr 2009
    • 257

    #1

    Another example of broken BCS logic

    My dynasty final top 3 standings after conference championships:

    1. Alabama 13-0 (CPU)
    2. Ohio St 12-0 (CPU)
    3. Texas 13-0 (USER)

    Ranked teams OSU beat vs. final rankings: #24 Penn St (8-4)

    Ranked teams Texas beat vs. final rankings: #10 Nebraska (10-2), at #7 Texas A&M (11-1), #22 Baylor (9-3), #19 USF (9-3)

    Anyone want to try and make sense of this one?
  • Roggie
    MVP
    • Dec 2008
    • 1753

    #2
    Re: Another example of broken BCS logic

    Simple. The BCS is full of dumb crap in real life. They simulated that pretty well.
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    • AnybodyKilla
      MVP
      • Oct 2002
      • 1001

      #3
      Re: Another example of broken BCS logic

      Originally posted by Roggie
      Simple. The BCS is full of dumb crap in real life. They simulated that pretty well.
      Paul Harris...thats all
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      • AbsoluteFury
        Rookie
        • Apr 2009
        • 257

        #4
        Re: Another example of broken BCS logic

        The BCS is full of crap but only because it doesn't offer every undefeated team a chance to play for the title (see LSU, Utah, etc over the past several years). However, the actual formula itself does a pretty good job of factoring in schedule strength...unlike the EA forumula which doesn't seem to apply it at all.

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        • Ziza9Noles94
          MVP
          • Jul 2008
          • 1416

          #5
          Re: Another example of broken BCS logic

          Originally posted by Roggie
          Simple. The BCS is full of dumb crap in real life. They simulated that pretty well.
          This. Sounds like it's full of realistic suckage to me.
          I bleed Garnet and Gold. In The 'Slim Reaper' We Trust. Go Noles!

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          • EVILFACE
            Rookie
            • Aug 2010
            • 2

            #6
            Re: Another example of broken BCS logic

            Similar thing happened to me. With Oklahoma State I started the year number one, went undefeated and won the b12 champ game over #6 Neb, and get pushed to number #4 under USC, Bama and tOSU. There are 6 ranked teams on my schedule at the end. I go the fiesta bowl, win over 12-0 Utah to finish 14-0 but since I didn't win the MNC get fired because I didn't meet all the goals . . . .

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            • imalive1459
              Rookie
              • Jun 2009
              • 24

              #7
              Re: Another example of broken BCS logic

              I think the game uses player ratings to determine strength of schedule. Perhaps, overall, the schools that the other teams played had better players(regardless of how well they were playing). It's still silly.
              Last edited by imalive1459; 09-28-2010, 09:12 AM. Reason: Mobile phone jacked things up

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              • Anarchy666
                Rookie
                • Apr 2008
                • 127

                #8
                Re: Another example of broken BCS logic

                Originally posted by Ziza9Noles94
                This. Sounds like it's full of realistic suckage to me.
                Originally posted by EVILFACE
                Similar thing happened to me. With Oklahoma State I started the year number one, went undefeated and won the b12 champ game over #6 Neb, and get pushed to number #4 under USC, Bama and tOSU. There are 6 ranked teams on my schedule at the end. I go the fiesta bowl, win over 12-0 Utah to finish 14-0 but since I didn't win the MNC get fired because I didn't meet all the goals . . . .
                not so much a case of realistic suckage. would the AP ever demote a #1 team in favour of a so-called trendier team? or demote a #1 team just so the season doesn't finish with a split NT? the answer to both is no.

                i think the cpu logic is it likes blowout wins against ranked teams, and even against half decent unranked teams the cpu likes blowout wins.

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                • BadAssHskr
                  XSX
                  • Jun 2003
                  • 3541

                  #9
                  Re: Another example of broken BCS logic

                  Originally posted by Roggie
                  Simple. The BCS is full of dumb crap in real life. They simulated that pretty well.
                  take boise st for example. they're basically making a living because they beat oklahoma, what 3-4 years ago?
                  "Not the victory but the action. Not the goal but the game. In the deed the glory."

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                  • NoDakHusker
                    Ice Cold
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 4348

                    #10
                    Re: Another example of broken BCS logic

                    This is actually kind of realistic, the BCS is broken in real life as well. EA did a good job at simulating the BCS' logic.
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                    • jello1717
                      All Star
                      • Feb 2006
                      • 5721

                      #11
                      Re: Another example of broken BCS logic

                      I had a terrible example this past season.
                      #1 Oklahoma (12-0)
                      #2 Texas (11-1)
                      #3 Alabama (12-1)
                      #4 USC (11-1)
                      #5 Pitt (11-1)
                      #6 Michigan (12-1)

                      With as much as I'd hate to see the 4th Alabama/Oklahoma NC game in 6 years, there's no way that Texas should be playing in the NC game against Oklahoma, especially since UT didn't win their conference while the next 4 teams did.
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                      • sycodmn
                        Pro
                        • Sep 2003
                        • 805

                        #12
                        Re: Another example of broken BCS logic

                        With the original example, if Ohio State was ranked #2 to start the season, they'd probably stay there.

                        Some of the others...not so much.

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                        • z Revis
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 13639

                          #13
                          Re: Another example of broken BCS logic

                          Since when is the BCS logical in real life?
                          Indianapolis Colts
                          Indiana Pacers
                          Indiana Hoosiers
                          Notre Dame Fighting Irish

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                          • MizzouBravesFan
                            MVP
                            • Mar 2004
                            • 2489

                            #14
                            Re: Another example of broken BCS logic

                            Best one in the game I've seen so far was in my old Florida dynasty...both Georgia and I finished with one loss, I beat them in Jax and won the SEC Title game, yet they were 2nd and I was 3rd in the final BCS standings and they played for the NC.

                            Incredible.
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                            • youALREADYknow
                              MVP
                              • Aug 2008
                              • 3635

                              #15
                              Re: Another example of broken BCS logic

                              Originally posted by BadAssHskr
                              take boise st for example. they're basically making a living because they beat oklahoma, what 3-4 years ago?
                              And how many times have they played for the BCS Championship?

                              Zero.

                              Know why? Because the BCS actually uses computer rankings. AKA Schedule of Strength actually matters.

                              The BCS and human poll logic in this game is pathetic. Absolutely pathetic. For some of you to pass it off as a realistic representation just because "well, the BCS is screwed up in real life too" is pathetic.

                              Demand some realism and effort from these video game developers. I swear the BCS logic has regressed in the past few years on this game. We should never see features go backwards.

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