How do you stop it?

[mylastexit]

Four Verticals middle post pattern?

I used to use 3-3-5 Cover 3 but that leaves the streaks open. I've used quarters contain with limited success - but I still have problems.

And it seems like since my level has gone up, I'm coming up against it more and more - nearly every game it seems.

[Ramminyou]

Re: How do you stop it?

I've never really had to defend against it, but if past games against the CPU are any indication, it's going to be very difficult to stop. I have banned myself from using any verticals plays against them because that middle receiver is always open. For whatever reasons the CPU does not act properly to that play and it creates a huge exploit.

[fcboiler87]

Re: How do you stop it?

Run some type of man defense. You can run cover 1, leaving you one safety over the top, or you can run cover 2 man, leaving you two safeties over the top with everyone manned underneath. The only bad thing is, unless you run a dime package, the inside guys will be manned up by an outside linebacker. So if you are going to run it, your best bet is out of the dime package.

[cgrierwv75]

Re: How do you stop it?

First thing is you cannot sit in coverage and only bring 3 or 4 every play. No matter what you do a good player will be be patient and find the open guy. If im in a situation where i think that pass is coming i do 1 of 3 things...

1. Play quarters man cover 2 and i take the MLB who's a spy and put him in a hook zone, i play as him and cover the deep middle.

2. Bring 6 with 3 deep behind it. Either you'll get a sack or a give up a quick catch, but you shouldnt give up a homerun. Play the pass. You'll have to look through your playbook to find a good one but they are in there.

3. Balls to the wall, double A blitz with man cover 0 behind it. If they are even a tad slow to react its a sack, if they get it off it might be a TD. Play the pass, dont bump and run or show blitz. Manually bring the LB's into the A gaps before the snap. Sometimes this is the best option if you think they'll score no matter what and either you'll make a play or they will and you'll have enough time on the clock to counter it.

The key is the mix it up. That being said, it's still hard to stop against a good player. Take chances every once in awhile and maybe you make a stop or get a sack. You just cannot sit back in coverage.

[zukes]

Re: How do you stop it?

Quarters Man Up 3 Deep, show blitz pre snap to vaguely disguise it. You get man with help in 3 areas deep.

[cgrierwv75]

Re: How do you stop it?

Quarters Man Up 3 Deep, show blitz pre snap to vaguely disguise it. You get man with help in 3 areas deep.

This is exactly what you shouldnt do. This puts the LB 1 on 1 with the inside slot guy who is doing the deep middle post out of 5 wr sets. Read my post and go no further. Zukes you are banned from giving advice.

[BlastX21]

Re: How do you stop it?

Quarters Man Up 3 Deep, show blitz pre snap to vaguely disguise it. You get man with help in 3 areas deep.

This works well in 3rd and 20+, its important to use formation subs to take out the linebacker in place of another DB.

To stop it in general, use a cover 4. I'm not sure of the exact name, but it has 4 deep safeties, 2 hook zones, and 2 buzz zones. Located in Deep Zone. Spotlight the inside slot. This is important.

[CObra-la]

Re: How do you stop it?

Try your 335 Cover 4 play and user the FS over the inside receiver.

[cgrierwv75]

Re: How do you stop it?

Try your 335 Cover 4 play and user the FS over the inside receiver.

THis can be a really bad option as your corners who's responsibility is deep is up on the line with the WR and will get toasted against a decent WR. The cover 4 is decent out of quarters but again, if you gave someone all day by only rushing 3 you they will find the open guy eventually.

[mylastexit]

Re: How do you stop it?

Thanks for the tips.

I think I should explain why I posted this.

I was Wisconsin against Florida. My opponent would go no huddle and run this play out of the 5 WR set or the 3 WR set with a TE and Demps was always lined up at the TE or Slot WR spot. He'd flip the play and run it to towards the wide side of the field every time. I'd blitz he'd hit on of the other WR. I'd sit back and he would just spring back with the qb and wait until demps was open.

Next game I'm playing Ohio State and the same thing, but this guy just had a WR at TE and ran the same set every time. There was no blitzing Pryor I couldn't catch him.

It sucked.

Are these scenarios just unstoppable?

[fcboiler87]

Re: How do you stop it?

Thanks for the tips.

I think I should explain why I posted this.

I was Wisconsin against Florida. My opponent would go no huddle and run this play out of the 5 WR set or the 3 WR set with a TE and Demps was always lined up at the TE or Slot WR spot. He'd flip the play and run it to towards the wide side of the field every time. I'd blitz he'd hit on of the other WR. I'd sit back and he would just spring back with the qb and wait until demps was open.

Next game I'm playing Ohio State and the same thing, but this guy just had a WR at TE and ran the same set every time. There was no blitzing Pryor I couldn't catch him.

It sucked.

Are these scenarios just unstoppable?

I'm telling you, man up out of the dime package. That way, you at least have CBs versus WRs. You can play cover 2 man and have those guys manned up underneath and user control one of your safeties over the top in order to stop whatever is coming down the middle.

[zukes]

Re: How do you stop it?

This is exactly what you shouldnt do. This puts the LB 1 on 1 with the inside slot guy who is doing the deep middle post out of 5 wr sets. Read my post and go no further. Zukes you are banned from giving advice.

Well as one guy mentioned, formation sub, or if you have a cover LB this isn't necessarily bad. He is likely covering the other team's 4th or 5th WR, unless they have formation subbed. Plus in a vertical play, that slot guy is going to the middle of the field, so there should be safety help.

Thanks for the ban though, much appreciated.

[mylastexit]

Re: How do you stop it?

I'm telling you, man up out of the dime package. That way, you at least have CBs versus WRs. You can play cover 2 man and have those guys manned up underneath and user control one of your safeties over the top in order to stop whatever is coming down the middle.

Alright - I'll try it.

[CObra-la]

Re: How do you stop it?

THis can be a really bad option as your corners who's responsibility is deep is up on the line with the WR and will get toasted against a decent WR. The cover 4 is decent out of quarters but again, if you gave someone all day by only rushing 3 you they will find the open guy eventually.

The play is actually Quarters, The FS and OLBs are in a Hook Zone. The MLB is in a QB Spy. 3 down linemen are blitzing and everybody else(2 CBs and 2 SS) are in Quarters coverage. Even from the 335 you can play a sort of ROBBER Coverage and take away the inside receiver... If pressure is a problem. Look at blitzing either the MLB or one of the OLBs.

Im more of a 4-2-5 guy myself, and Im finding some interesting ways to cover Trips and 4 and 5 wr sets from TCU's 4-2-5 playbook.

[blakty]

Re: How do you stop it?

I was just gonna say any kind of man unders out of dime or quarters is a safe bet. As long as there is pressure, it will force a bad read every time. I don't ever think there's been a time where cover 4 actually worked, so I personally don't recomend it if your playing a ranked game or else prepare for a woopin'.