I usually don't post on here , but I was just curious and wanted to ask people this. Is it me , or is the defense on Madden 11 dumb as a brick when you play other people ? ( Online and off )
-
-
Re: Defense ?
Not just you. D is pretty bad in this gane. -
Re: Defense ?
Ok ....... Because I was starting to truly believe that I sucked on D. LOLComment
-
Re: Defense ?
nah i've noticed it too. i actually had no problem with the D pre patch...but i did some investigating.
as soon as the second patch hit i noticed defense was broken even further, now to the point where i don't even have faith in simple zone coverage anymore. but i thought, well maybe its me and its just in my head, so i calculated the stats from 9 games PRE-patch and 9 games POST-patch and here is the clear evidence. the only thing i remotely enjoyed about this game was playing defense, and now its just a pick-a-play and pray scenario...what a shame.
average points allowed pre-patch - 11
average points allowed post-patch - 25
average yards allowed pre-patch - 201
average yards allowed post-patch - 344Comment
-
Re: Defense ?
I was just playing today after not playing for a good month and a half or so because of crappy defense. Turns out it's still the same. What bugs me is the brick hands defenders have. I mean simple interceptions just clank right off their hands. Reaction time is horrible. Bad pursuit angles. Ugh. But the two things that just kill the game for defense:
1. Locomotion has completely ruined defense. Offense just blows right past defenders. It seems like defenders have cement attatched to their feet. A player on offense can literally run circles around a defender.
2. WTF HAPPENED TO circle switching to the closest defender to the ball? I seem to switch to every player except the closest. This causes for me to ultimately run my defenders clean out of the play on a regular basis.
Every game is 34-38, 42-35, etc. It's ridiculous and disturbing. I dont see how anybody that designed and developed this game could have possibly been comfortable with releasing this game with such a sorry excuse for defense.((cuff))*bankhead bounce*((cuff))Comment
-
Re: Defense ?
these are great points, there is no need to perform a move in the open field vs a defender whether it be user or cpu controller. you can easily just run around them with anyone who possesses moderate speed.
i like the concept of acceleration, but it seems it had no effect on momentum when changing direction unless you try to make a drastic cut.
the switching to wrong defender thing is something entirely different, although i can relate and deeply sympathize. i don't know what happened here but its clearly another issue that needs addressed.Comment
-
Re: Defense ?
I only play offline and have got the sliders set so I get some pretty good games. In my 2nd year franchise I got beat by the Chiefs 10 - 3, another game I won 14 - 6.
I have my pass game set at 13 ovr, the CPU not changed so much. Give these a try (note I play on normal speed):
User > CPU
Pass
QB Acc 24 > 50
Pass block 46 > 46
WR Catch 28 > 48
Pass Defense
React 40 > 69
Intercept 33 > 31
Pass rush 44 > 83Comment
-
Re: Defense ?
The problems don't seem to occur when you play the CPU , it only seems to be '' defensively chalenged '' when you play other people online and offline. It's like no matter what pass coverage you call when you play other people , you just can't cover. The only team I can really cover with is the Jets but like I told my homeboy yesterday , the only problem with that is that there are 32 teams in the NFL , not just the Jets. It feels like you playing a arcade game when you play people.Comment
-
Re: Defense ?
Yall know what will fix the problem ? They need to bring back the vision cone. That makes passing the ball more realistic by making it tougher. I hated the day they took away the importance of that vision cone. When the game got too defensive for em , then they completely took it out. I miss that cone.Comment
-
Re: Defense ?
i liked it as well, i think it was a great concept and could be re-implemented with a little tuning to make it less cumbersome to use online. i mean...how cool was it check check off a user controller safety and snap it back to that deep post burning a hole in his cover 3? ****....
i can't say e p i c ? lolComment
-
Re: Defense ?
I loved it because it was realistic. It made people actually have to go through progressions when passing which does two things for the defense. One , it gives them pass rushers more of a chance at getting into the backfield and getting some more sacks. ( Cause without sliders sacks are pretty nonexistent ) Two , it makes it so guys that just hike the ball and throw it before the zones set up actually have to take time to put the cone on the reciever they throw it too , which allows more time for that zone to set up. That cone made offense harder. Back then you actually had to have good quarterbacks to have those big 250 to 300 yard passing games. Yesterday , I got shredded by Chad Henne who isn't bad , but he ain't good enough to complete 80% of his passes. He is not Peyton Manning. LOLComment
-
Re: Defense ?
The games better on slow, and was designed to be played on slow. With the default speed being increased to normal it screwed up the way the game plays. It's all because of kids, and people who complain just because of the term slow, if slow actually was labeled normal their mouths would be shut.
Bring back slow speed as the default, or atleast give us sliders for OLF, to compensate for issues in the game, loco, dropped int's, etc.Comment
-
Re: Defense ?
I keep seeing complaints on defense so I'm sure there is issues with it I'm just glad I haven't seen them yet. I play mostly online and have only 3 people in my games put up more than 30 points while my last 6 games I haven't had anyone go over 25. I play a bend don't break defense that even when it breaks takes the opponent a long time to score so my scores never get out of hand.
I still see a lot of complaints so there must be a problem and I hope to continue not having someone put up 70 on me.Comment
-
Re: Defense ?
I agree. It feels like more of an arcade football game. I just played a game offline against the CPU and Todd Collins killed me. All Knox and Hester did was run down the field , and Todd Collins , who has a 57 deep ball rating , hit them perfectly on every deep ball. He had 250 yards passing on me in one half. I gingerly got up , and took Madden out of my PS3 without even thinking about finishing that game. LOLComment
Comment