Think This Can Be Patched (Rebounds & Assists)?

[pdx_24]

Rebounding stats are out of whack. Hardly any offensive rebounds. I play on Superstars Sim 12min quarter, and I'm averaging less than 4 off. rebounds/game! CPU is not getting many off. rebounds either. I tried turning up the off. rebounds slider and lowering def. rebounds slider, but to no avail. Looks like another slider (along with the vertical slider) is just useless. Right now I have off. rebounds set to 100, def. rebounds set to 1, and still there's hardly any off. rebounds. The rebounding in this game is just broken, no question about it. There's no boxing out, just players flying around.

Onto the assists: Assists aren't counted correctly. If you pass the ball to a player and if that player dribble once before making the shot, you should be given an assist. But not in 2K11. I tested this out several times passing the ball down low to my bigs. My bigs posted and did the dropstep and scored, no assist given. Passed to a player out on the wing, player pump faked and took 1 dribble to the side for the shot. Made the shot, but no assist given. Funny enough, a player inbounding the ball to a player making the shot, he's given an assist! This is not how assists are counted.

I think the assists can be patched, but I doubt the off. rebounds issue can. This game looks so good and in so many levels it is fantastic, glaring issues like these are just really turning me off. I'm a stats geek so these issues are just so frustrating. I'm hoping 2K can fix this, and quick.

[threes_co]

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All my assits are counted perfectly.

Just keep playing and hopefully the off rebounds start to balance out.

[pdx_24]

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Also of note: the lack of offensive rebounds can be blamed for the low scoring. My fg%, 3pt%, and FTA are all good, yet I'm in the low 90's to mid 90's in points. Offensive rebounds add more possessions, more possession equals more points.

[pdx_24]

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All my assits are counted perfectly.

Are you positive of this? Because I've tested this on at least 8 occasions. They do not count when the recipient takes 1 dribble before making the shot. I'm certain of this.

[pdx_24]

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Just keep playing and hopefully the off rebounds start to balance out.

I'm in my 11th game of the Association. It's not just me, the CPU I'm playing against are horrid on the O board as well.

[jtruthxl]

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yes the assist are horrid in my player so passing the ball is a waste

[mvp_status]

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rebounds and assists work fine in my games. The CPU actually tends to get too many offensive rebounds imo

[edaddy]

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Although a great game I am dissapointed in the rebound and box out mechanics..I rarely see a box out and it's just vertical jumps to get the rebound..when someone like Carlos Boozer jumps over the rim like Jordan to get a rebound rather than box out this becomes a problem..Hope this issue can be patched and would go a long way in helping stats....

[ehh]

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Assists are fine from what I've experienced.

Offensive rebounding was the first glaring thing that stood out to me in terms of what needed tweaking, especially since I struggled so much early on with scoring so I was shooting in the 30%'s every game as a team and still barely got any offensive boards. Hopefully sliders will fix it though.

[Jukeman]

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Assist was most likely done like that because of all the complaints about high asst numbers

There is no right or wrong way of counting asst IRL, in video game world, its best to keep it like it is..(in other words, asst are actually scored like how you described irl sometimes)

Me nor the cpu have problems getting offensive rebounds especially since there is barely any boxing out...

[pdx_24]

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Assist was most likely done like that because of all the complaints about high asst numbers

I suspect this is the case as well. But if it is, it's a terrible way of addressing a problem. That's not the right way to do it.

There is no right or wrong way of counting asst IRL,

Yes, there is. It's in the rule book. An assist is given if the recipient player takes no more than one step before scoring. But I do agree that score keepers around the NBA aren't exactly accurate when it comes to counting out assists. The Hornets' score keeper is notorious for giving Chris Paul more assists than he deserves. But 2K11 should not replicate this poor sportsmanship conduct.

in video game world, its best to keep it like it is..(in other words, asst are actually scored like how you described irl sometimes)

How is it best to keep it the way it is when it is incorrect? I don't want stats to be arbitrarily given. I want stats to accurately reflect the oncourt play.

Me nor the cpu have problems getting offensive rebounds especially since there is barely any boxing out...

That's certainly not in my case. I play on either All-Stars or Superstars Sim, both the CPU and I are only averaging around 4 off. rebounds in a 12min quarter game. This is after I turned off. rebounds way up and def. rebounds all the way down. This is strange. I wonder if anyone else is experience the same problem?

Btw, NBA teams average around 10-12 off. rebounds.

[Jukeman]

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For the past 20 or so years asst has been subjective

Also raising the rebounding slider is overkill, you'll get better results if you lower both to 0 trust me

[pdx_24]

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Assists are fine from what I've experienced.

The CPU average around 19-21 assists, which is fine even though that's a bit on the low end. I'm not talking about the number of assists the CPU is getting, I'm talking about how assists are credited. Have you look into this? When you pass the ball to a player, and if that player takes only one step before scoring, see if an assist is given. It doesn't in the many times that I've tested. This is inaccurate. Rule book says an assist is given if the recipient player takes no more than one step before scoring.

[pdx_24]

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For the past 20 or so years asst has been subjective

Yes, I realize this. I've been a diehard basketball fan for 20 plus years. But the rule is clear. Score keepers can be inaccurate counting assists in certain situations (this is because the action is so fast), but that doesn't mean they are purposely inaccurately counting the assists (except for the Hornets score keeper). NBA 2K11 should try to apply the correct ruling in every instance since it has the ability to do so, and because human errors are already omitted.

Also raising the rebounding slider is overkill, you'll get better results if you lower both to 0 trust me

Tried this too. Didn't make much of a difference.

[Greene_Flash03]

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Yeah assists and rebounds are better compare to last year stat-wise..